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Director says The 3rd Birthday will be 'kind of' a 3rd person shooter photo

I know, you reread my post title a few times, didn't you? That's some seriously unsure terminology if I've ever heard it. It came straight from the mouth of Hajime Tabata, the game's director (he is also working on the PSP title Final Fantasy Agito XIII). In a recent interview with Famitsu, he states that The 3rd Birthday "isn’t exactly a “true” third-person shooter". But it's being called a third person shooter? What?

If you're a Square fan like me, you're probably already having frightening flashbacks of Dirge of Cerebus, but I am hoping for better. We now also know that the game begins in Manhattan, where you fight creatures called the Twisted, who have arrived in New York through some sort of crazy time schism.

Most interesting of all to me is a comment about Aya's age from Scenario director Motomu Toriyama. As you may have noticed, she is looking rather young for her stated age (she is 35 in The 3rd Birthday). Toriyama commented that it was "difficult to make a woman in her mid-thirties the main attraction for any video game". Wow. Hey ladies, you know after thirty, you become utterly devoid of worth, right?

The 3rd Birthday will be released later this year (the date is currently TBA).

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BlackSheep's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2009 12:42
BlackSheep
looks like kill bill vol 2.
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2009 12:47
Jonathan Holmes
This game has one my unconditional love. I've been totally nostalgic for the PS1 era lately, so there is no way I'll be able to resist it.
Justice's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2009 12:47
Justice
Well from one screenshot it looks good, but a third person shooter from Square does sound like an interesting idea (if you exclude Dirge of Cerebus as you said).
Drach's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2009 12:51
Drach
Yeah, that comment struck me as a bit sexist, Collette. Everyone has worth.
Mr Wrighty 987's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2009 12:55
Mr Wrighty 987
im sure in PE 2 Aya said something about her mitochondria keeps her looking young.
byrc's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2009 12:56
byrc
I'm not really bothered by the description 3rd person shooter. Because any of us who actually played the last 2 games would know, thats exactly what parasite eve was. A 3rd person shooter with rpg elements. Parasite eve was more rpg like than parasite eve 2, which became to resemble more like resident evil series. I frankly wasn't too happy with the more resident evil like changes in PE2, but I still enjoyed the game very much.

I think they're labeling pe3 as a 3rd person shooter, because thats what sells, but if the past games are any clue, it will most likely be a very odd action rpg mixture, thats hard to label, just like the past 2 PE games. If they want to call it a 3rd person shooter to increase interest, thats fine by me, as long as its damn fun, and got some crazy mitochrondriatic powers, of course some rpg stat leveling.
SnakeDude4Life's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2009 12:57
SnakeDude4Life
I wonder if the controls will be similar to Resistance: Retribution.

Also:

HOT TIP: A new game called "Barbara Cartwright: Modern Nazi Hunter: Trouble on the Amazon" will be staring a hot MILF that tracks down Nazi and kills them... WITH HER LAP DOG, a Shih Tzu named Vengeance.
byrc's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2009 12:59
byrc
Thats correct Wrighty.


In pe2 they stated that her powers are slowing her aging, and that she will probably get younger over time.

So there is an actual story reason for this.
John B's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2009 12:59
John B
Wait ... how can a 3rd person shooter not be a 3rd person shooter? Does that mean that it's 3rd person shooter/adventure? Or partially 1st/partially 3rd? I'm confused. But this...

Scenario director Motomu Toriyama has said it can be difficult to make a woman in her mid-30s the main attraction in any video game, and unfortunately, we do have to agree.

Wow! That's quite an ... er ... interesting perspective. I'd love to know why they can possibly agree with that. If it was suddenly announced that Lara Croft is actually 38, would that somehow matter?
byrc's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2009 13:06
byrc
JOHN B, watch some videos of the last 2 games. Thats a 3rd person shooter thats not really a 3rd person shooter. Parasite eve is this weird funky hybrid of Resident Evil, with Square's active timer system, with rpg stat leveling.

Now before people say the early resident evil games were not 3rd person shooters, they need to shut the fuck up, because thats what 3rd person shooters were like back in the day.
BlackFreefall's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2009 13:08
BlackFreefall
They should release Parasite Eve 1 and 2 on the PSN.
ParaParaKing's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2009 13:10
ParaParaKing
I can't wait for this game. When I first watch the trailer and the old music was in it, I almost shit my pants in excitement.
Darren Nakamura's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2009 13:13
Darren Nakamura
That's not really that confusing. I mean, the other two Parasite Eve games were "kind of third person shooters, but not really" as well, right?
byrc's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2009 13:14
byrc
they should blackfreefall.

I like how square decided to remake star ocean 1 (and port star ocean 2, that ain't no remake) on the psp. Good way to introduce the young'uns to the 32bit rpg era, and to increase interest in the series. They should do the same thing with parasite eve.
XanderSan's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2009 13:18
XanderSan
Weird. They already explained this as a plot point in PE2, being that her altered body capable of psychic attacks and recovery techniques also slows her aging process?

In fact, I was enjoying the idea of her aging slightly whilst everyone else was damn old.
Logo's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2009 13:21
Logo
"s you may have noticed, she is looking rather young for her stated age (she is 35 in The 3rd Birthday). Toriyama commented that it was 'difficult to make a woman in her mid-thirties the main attraction for any video game'."

Sadly in other news women gamers across the world were crushed by a falling glass ceiling.

Have game designers learned NOTHING from Chell, Faith, Zoey, etc.
John B's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2009 13:22
John B
@byrc:

I see what you mean - and I agree. That's not a "shooter" per se, but it certainly is how a lot of games played not too long ago.
byrc's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2009 13:23
byrc
Um logo, those are all female video game characters in their 20s
Logo's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2009 13:29
Logo
The point is more of none of them being centered around being some sort of pristine big boobed attractive female. Chell especially looks rather worn and disheveled in Portal. You don't have to make all of your female characters as some barbie type style (as it looks in the screenshot with the story). You could easily age Aya without harming the story or your audience. 35 year olds aren't curmudgeons. It's not difficult, they just want to play it 'safe'.

Sure if it was purely a gameplay/lore/story reason fine, but clearly its not if he's making comments like that.
Lightthrower's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2009 13:31
Lightthrower
"difficult to make a woman in her mid-thirties the main attraction for any video game"

Of course if your main audience is loli loving japanese men, then i guess it would be hard to sell them a 35 year old woman thrice the age they would want to *beep*.
byrc's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2009 13:37
byrc
Um logo, pe2 clearly states that her powers effect her aging.

Now did Square used her powers as an excuse to keep her young looking, maybe, I don't know, they probably did though.

I also never thought of Aya as a barbie doll character.

Plus you should check out how aya looked in pe1 vs in pe2, its noticeable she got more womanly, and this one clip is really hard to determine how she looks age wise. I think we need to see more before we can pass judgement.

If she looks younger than in pe2,i'm fine with that, because story-wise it makes sense. If they didn't I would be miffed about the lack of consistency.
SephirothX's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2009 13:40
SephirothX
I'd hit that.
Syn's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2009 14:46
Syn
It's funny seeing people complain about the age thing. How many MALE main characters are over 30? Some of them AREN'T EVEN OVER 20! Get over it.

Excluding of course games like Disgaea where Laharl, Flonne and Etna were over 1,000.

Did you know: The average modeling career is over by age 21?
GamingGoddess's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2009 14:53
GamingGoddess
I'm cautiously optimistic...I was pretty sure that PE was a series that was never going to see the light of day again, so the fact that I'll get to play as Aya again at all is a pleasant surprise. However, with the info we have so far, I'm imagining some kind of cross between DoC and FFX-2.

I know, that sounds like pretty much the worst thing ever.

I'm not sure how to take the comment about Aya's age; in the context of the American media it doesn't make much sense-- women don't become 'worthless' in entertainment until after about 45 nowadays. Look at a movie like X3, Famke Jannsen and Halle Berry were both 40+ in that movie, and widely considered some of the most attractive women alive. There are a lot of other examples I could list.

However, in the context of the JAPANESE market, I'm really not sure. In Toriyama's defense, I think he may have been saying that games starring older women are hard to market to the Japanese public, regardless of how he and his team may feel about it. It was about the realities of marketing undercutting innovation.

Basically, if I assume that he was referring specifically to the Japanese market, he doesn't sound like a dick:).
DarkSaint76's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2009 16:40
DarkSaint76
Hmm, I'm still looking for more rpg ala PE1. And not "kind of" dammit!
Paul Soth's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2009 23:04
Paul Soth
But you are seeing more female support characters in their 30's and 40's. The Boss in MGS3, and Emma Honeywell from Last Remnant for instance.
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/08/2009 01:27
Bob Muir
Somehow, I think America would be more accepting. But hey, keep toiling for the Japanese market that doesn't really appreciate "hardcore" games anymore, SquareEnix. I'm sure that will get you places.
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/08/2009 13:08
Holyetheline
Ah what a beautiful bride.
Cowboy TTop's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/10/2009 16:14
Cowboy TTop
I agree with Logo. I think its really a case of Square always swaying with the crowd pleasing jap gamers and cosplayers, so they can eventually sell more of their cosplay merchandise. Nothing wrong with that, but why can't we have young and old characters?

The japanese have a problem with showing aged characters in their media overall. Its a cultural thing, but despite this they should try to buck the trend a bit, especially if they are gonna be looking to sell it outside of japan. just saying a character is a teenage detective etc isn't gonna fly.

I wonder if the truth is that they have a hard time modeling aged characters, and young, clean lined characters are an easy way out.

Maybe what we need someone to do is Benjamin Button type rpg, where all the characters are old and get younger as the game progresses.

Either way. I'll still be buying PE3, for more 3rd person rpg action.
Serivor's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/13/2009 09:52
Serivor
haha poor 35 year old women. :/
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