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DICE says Bad Company 2 also cures 'mapathy' photo

I know it's bad form to go on too much about prior events in the beginning of a post, so go read up on the whole "mapathy" thing here if you haven't. There. That was painless enough.

In a sorta hilarious move, DICE has made a not-so-subtle joke at Modern Warfare 2's expense. On the Battlefield blog, they have an article entitled "How to avoid 'mapathy' without paying!" You see, the second map pack for VIP Bad Company 2 members is going out the same day as MW2's DLC -- and it's free.

DICE says this new content "helps avoid segmenting the community," and "plays a vital part in making sure you, the players get proper value for the money you’ve invested."

Of course, if Infinity Ward wanted to, the studio could pretty easily come out and say A) the BC2 DLC -- Arica Harbor for Conquest mode and Laguna Presa for Rush mode -- is essentially on-the-disc maps re-purposed for new modes, and B) "hell, at least we can keep our game up and running."

I love your latest game DICE, really I do, but the (somewhat expected) server-side stuff that's cropped up recently is getting damned annoying.








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dtomek's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 15:05
dtomek
Well there's that...and also the fact that Bad Company is actually a good game.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 15:06
Chris Carter
Didn't they already segment the community with project ten dollar?

And the special mode that is only unlocked a month early if you pre-ordered?

What are they talking about?
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 15:06
Sexualchocolate
i love it.

I got bored of mw2's monotonous, broken gameplay before mapathy set in and traded it in.

Battlefield bad company 2 runs smooth as buttery silk on the psn.
runtheplacered's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 15:12
runtheplacered
"Battlefield bad company 2 runs smooth as buttery silk on the psn."

So ... in other words.. it works? Well, that's good. Not really sure what all the adjectives are for, though.

Now if you said "The gameplay is smooth like buttery silk on the psn" that'd be something I could get behind and say, "fuck ya!" to. But of course, I'd have to say "Unfortunately the gameplay on PC is as smooth as buttery silk rubbed in vasoline", but that's for another conversation.

FFXIII for Ps3, BC2 for PC.. I'm in a big of gaming heaven here atm.
runtheplacered's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 15:13
runtheplacered
big=bit
ninjikiran's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 15:21
ninjikiran
Project ten-dollar means you buy the game new or they don't support you. That is unless you buy it seperately.
CRKFIEND's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 15:23
CRKFIEND
The maps are already playable in Battlefield Bad Company 2... I love me some BC2, but that's like saying if MW2's Mapathy pack included Favela that you can now play domination on, but couldn't before.

BF:BC2's map packs are full of fail. :(
Tdiddy9182's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 15:25
Tdiddy9182
I can't wait to play these new maps, I got my VIP code!
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 15:26
Chris Carter
@CRK
What I don't understand is the console FPS game's concept of "you can't play this mode on this map" - which is why I mostly play FPS games on PCs with dedicated servers.

In dedicated games, there's no such thing as "you can't play this mode on this map". You just play whatever the hell you want.
Solid Squirrel's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 15:27
Solid Squirrel
@Sexual
The game does run buttery smooth--when it's not locking up, or hitting select when spotting doesn't work or my team can hear me but I can't hear them unless I've just hopped out of an exploding tank, or the servers crashing and tossing you out of a game you just had an awesome round in and lose your 20 kills and the stats that go with it.

The crash is so bad that if you play a match continuously--that is, multiple rounds on different maps without exiting out to try a different mode or find a different match--you lose ALL those matches stats, and the perks you may have unlocked in the process.

This is fact. I myself experienced this when my match crashed out and I had earned the motion sensor for my underused recon class. It was there the following match--and I used it, but when the game collapsed and I started up a new one, the game said I still didn't have enough points yet to unlock it.
Videodrone31's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 15:32
Videodrone31
Anyone know when the bf store will be up and running on psn??? Hasn't worked since launch. I can't even download my preorder bonus. Oh well trying to finish gow2 before Monday night!!!!
Jordan Devore's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 15:35
Jordan Devore
Nice, Tdiddy.

The whole exclusive mode thing was a total bummer, but at least that's only temporary.

Also, I'm not talking about lag when I say server-side issues. I'm talking about literally not being able to connect to anything related to multiplayer because the EA Network thing is down.
CRKFIEND's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 15:38
CRKFIEND
I'm ashamed that EA is even calling this a map pack, because it obviously isn't.
Spaz's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 15:39
Spaz
Am i the only person not having any real issues with the svrs? Their was last night when the EA svrs went down for maintenance. But other then that i haven't had any svrs crashing on me unexpectantly.

Dice could say though "at least we created new maps and not give people old ones :P".

Fact of the matter is Mw2 wasn't optimized for the pc for shit. Hell i run BFBC2 with 40-60 FPS while as MW2 will run at 90, and Battlefield still plays better and smoother.
topherO's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 15:39
topherO
The chick's hot.
Videodrone31's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 15:41
Videodrone31
Either way bc2 is just as fun if not funner than any cod. What really pissed me off was the release of cod classic to try to compete with 1943. Cod classic was a waste of $$$$$$$:)
JamnOnTheOne's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 15:43
JamnOnTheOne
" -- and it's free."

If you purchase new.
Ryan J Murphy's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 15:58
Ryan J Murphy
not a map pack, just same maps diff modes
Schmo0zle's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 16:05
Schmo0zle
The only problem I've had with BC2 was the first couple days the servers were down or something for a while. Since then nothing negative has really happened.

Though I am super fuckin' pissed at whoever had the genius idea to make your scream shake violently whenever there was an explosion within 50 feet of you. I often find myself shooting at a guy and having my screen shake all over hell and dying because my aim fucked itself up.

Lame. But still a good game.
matrixdude171's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 16:08
matrixdude171
The lag, oh the lag! It takes about two or three restarts just to get rid of it! Not to mention the fact that the ps3 store remains down since day 1 and you haven't fixed it. Honestly now, get to fixing it.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 16:17
Sexualchocolate
You guys must be playing on xbox live or something!

I've played many many hours on psn and haven't seen a single problem, apart from the store not working.

And that really doesn't bother me at all.

Seriously, not a single blip of lag, not a single disconnect nothing. Just sweet sweet battlefield action.

Suppose that's what you get for paying extra for psn... Wait, what?
StingingVelvet's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 16:17
StingingVelvet
Game has been working perfectly for me since launch but I know a lot of other PC gamers are having trouble... hopefully it all works out eventually.

I love the Africa Harbor map... looking forward to that one being in the other modes.
CRAZYAPE69's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 16:20
CRAZYAPE69
@sexual chocolate: our store doesn't exist and we can't claim vip......smooth...... i wish i bought it on the xbox
Gungrinner's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 16:24
Gungrinner
The BF maps should be there out of the box - not quite the same as the MW maps but still OK for free.

Agreed about the BF servers - they are a FU**ING JOKE! EA are complete smacktard when it comes to a game launch. It's nothing new. Any BF players from previous launches will agree, they ALWAYS F it up.
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 16:32
mix
My game has froze up twice on me but both times were during matches that was on the level the demo was based around. Other than that I have been A-ok!

Love this game but I do want the store to be up and fixed soon!
Soulwax's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 16:34
Soulwax
I guess I've just been really lucky because I haven't experienced any lag whatsoever on Live.
bodybreak's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 16:34
bodybreak
@schmoozle,
the violent shaking doesn't actually fuck your aim -- just your perspective. If you have your crosshairs on someone, just keep firing through the shaking and you'll score the kill.
kylamity's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 16:41
kylamity
Battlefield Bad Company 2 and Battlefield 1943 both have severe server problems, which makes me appreciate "Listen Server" games such as Gears of War 2 and AVP.
vexed alex's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 17:04
vexed alex
"I love your latest game DICE, really I do, but the (somewhat expected) server-side stuff that's cropped up recently is getting damned annoying."

Wasn't Modern Warfare 2's multiplayer rough for the first few months?
vexed alex's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 17:07
vexed alex
Also, I wonder what's going to happen with these stupid FPS fanboy arguments once Halo Reach comes into the mix.

I theorize that people will stop playing BC2 like they did with the first and we'll be back to the same old Call of Duty versus Halo shit flinging fights.
BS3 Owner's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 17:31
BS3 Owner
@ vexed alex

Lets hope not. CallOfDuty & Halo are very bland in comparison.
BC2 actually reminds me *slightly* of KZ2... serious read below.

(( When you kill someone that little birdie chirp is in both games! yay! ))
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 17:36
Sexualchocolate
@ crazyape but surely being able to play online is more important than the vip maps?

Right!?

Or would you rather have fucked up servers to play the two extra maps on?

Some people a fucking stupid.
Shadowiii's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 17:53
Shadowiii
I guess I should get BC2 then. Too bad all my friends would rather play MW2.
So here is the ultimate question: Xbox or PS3?
I'm torn. Having two consoles sucks. :P
Schmo0zle's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 18:01
Schmo0zle
@bodybreak

Yea, I was just playing and I realized that. Still, the shaking isn't a plus. Hitting a moving target is pretty hard and the shaking is just so excessive, what with everyone and their mom playing snipers for mortar strikes.
Ignominus's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 18:05
Ignominus
I hate to feed trolls like the a fucking stupid Asexualdipshit but DICE royally screwed up on the 360. A week of hit or miss server crap only to come home today to discover that all the shit I managed to unlock is gone. Back to square one. This is totally unacceptable.

@Shadowii: For the love of all things functional DO NOT GET THE 360 VERSION!
Corduroy Turtle's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 18:35
Corduroy Turtle
How many people play BC2 on PS3 besides sexual? I'd throw out a random guess and say that XBL has about 4x the people online at any given time. Mo' people, mo' problems.
Killrig's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 18:40
Killrig
Why would you buy this used, especially now? Who would even have it for sale used? I could only think that maybe you'd buy it used by "keeping it" from GameFly.
Stephen Beirne's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 19:37
Stephen Beirne
"This is totally unacceptable."

Yeah let's kill 'em!
/taking the piss
Skribble's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2010 22:56
Skribble
Yeah I gotta say I haven't been having any issues for the last week (PC version). I just hit the Play Now button, choose the map I want and then hit "Ready". Works like a charm and I'm in a game within 60 seconds.
BlackSunEmpire's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 01:48
BlackSunEmpire
I heard green LED's kick the shit out of blue LED's.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 04:52
Sexualchocolate
@Corduroy - Mo people on LIVE means Mo money to spend making that shit work!!!

That's why people PAY FOR LIVE? Right?

Oh, "but EA manage the BC2 servers" - This shouldn't matter a shit. You PAY to play online and you can't play online properly. If MS is charging you for EA's service, it's MS's duty to ensure that fucking service works!

Failing so far it seems. Failing to provide the service they sold to you.

I'm laughing my ass off that my FREE PSN can handle this game perfectly while they PAID FOR LIVE is falling over. Save the store issue, the ACTUAL GAME works fucking Flawlessly and is tremendous fun. I'm literally in a game within seconds of hitting go, never get disconnected, never see any lag, never had a single problem, and I've been playing almost everyday since launch.

If you can't get onto the BC2 servers, go play MAG for a while... wait, what?
Shit, sorry, suppose you're stuck with CoD. Unlucky guys.
MAXp0wr's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 07:16
MAXp0wr
I recently quit my fight with XBL and bought a PS3 to play on PSN.
It's been nothing but hassle free, full GREEN connections..

I will not be renewing XBL.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 08:04
Sexualchocolate
@MaxP0wr - Congratulations! Welcome to the world of hassle and subscription free online gaming!
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