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I was almost looking forward to maybe buying this game in the near future, I've been very on the fence about it. This pushed me right off of the fence away from Blizzard's yard, though, because I don't want to go to their house if I have to give them a blowjob for entry.
This is entirely bullshit.
Treating your paying customers as if they're gold sellers is out of line.
Treating your paying customers as if they're gold sellers is out of line.
I truly do weep for gaming. It was once a two way street, people who loved games got to make games(and money), and us gamers got to pay and have a good time. Now it seems all the love is disappearing and games are just turning into shitty products-oh wait, my mistake, "services". Where are my manners? Since game lifespan is getting shorter and shorter, these companies need to justify their bloated budgets by stupid DLC tactics, and then you have companies like Blizzard treating us like crap. Whoever said progress is always a good thing is a complete moron.
I heard that Starbucks is going to implement the same kind of scheme: You go up to the counter and order, for instance, a Mocha Cookie Crumble Frappuccino, pay for it, and the barista prepares it for you, but you are not authorized to drink it until Starbucks can officially assess with their accounting department that you indeed paid for it with your money. So until then, you can't go sit in the couch space or give your coffee to someone else. You can add up to two creams or two sugars (or one Splenda), but cannot use a mixing stick, nor can you borrow one from someone else.
Also, Jim, I LOL'd that you kept the Kotaku typo in the link text. :)
Also, Jim, I LOL'd that you kept the Kotaku typo in the link text. :)
So wait, have they said what happens if you don't pass the review for whatever reason? Do you get a refund or is it just you can keep playing but never use the auction house and the other listed features?
Strange, in any case.
Strange, in any case.
I think it's more like before you're even allowed to blow them they have to vet you for three days to make sure you aren't a secret robot.
Oh boy, I sure do hope my money and good behavior will allow me to be a Blizzard customer.
Seriously, I know that Diablo 1 and 2 have seen their fair share of hackers and 'exploiters' but to my knowledge, both games have sold exceptionally well and are still regarded as pinnacles of gaming.
It smells of f**&*$% lawyers. Since Blizzard is so awesome at nerfing classes, couldn't we as a society begin to nerf lawyers and stop this nonsense?
Seriously, I know that Diablo 1 and 2 have seen their fair share of hackers and 'exploiters' but to my knowledge, both games have sold exceptionally well and are still regarded as pinnacles of gaming.
It smells of f**&*$% lawyers. Since Blizzard is so awesome at nerfing classes, couldn't we as a society begin to nerf lawyers and stop this nonsense?
I haven't seen a single gold spam message since 1.03, so that's cool, but this is pretty terrible for PAYING customers. Heuristic analysis of people's actions should be restricting the nay'er do wells, not blanket segregation with a timer.
Oh well, I'm done with the game. It's filled with this notion of game design that end game has to be progression-based through small increments across a huge scale of gear itemization. Inferno is nothing but gear check to farm enough gold to buy infinitesimally better gear from the AH to advance to the next act. 125 hours into the game and I haven't found anything other than crap magic items and four or five decent rares - no sets or uniques (not that it matters since they'd likely be substantially worse than what I'm using anyway). The loot system is broken, and there's nothing inherently enjoyable about looking for almost guaranteed shitty drops.
Then there's still the issue of melee classes going up against elite packs. They're so gear dependent that they either need 30M gold worth of gear, or they have to stack the (horrendously designed) must-have Resist All stat and other defensive stats to the detriment of their offensive capabilities. There's just nothing intrinsically enjoyable about playing in Inferno mode.
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Oh well, I'm done with the game. It's filled with this notion of game design that end game has to be progression-based through small increments across a huge scale of gear itemization. Inferno is nothing but gear check to farm enough gold to buy infinitesimally better gear from the AH to advance to the next act. 125 hours into the game and I haven't found anything other than crap magic items and four or five decent rares - no sets or uniques (not that it matters since they'd likely be substantially worse than what I'm using anyway). The loot system is broken, and there's nothing inherently enjoyable about looking for almost guaranteed shitty drops.
Then there's still the issue of melee classes going up against elite packs. They're so gear dependent that they either need 30M gold worth of gear, or they have to stack the (horrendously designed) must-have Resist All stat and other defensive stats to the detriment of their offensive capabilities. There's just nothing intrinsically enjoyable about playing in Inferno mode.
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"This is the reality of big budget gaming now -- buying a game and then submitting yourself to the publisher to demonstrate you're good enough to play it."
If this is the case, it looks like I'm going to end up going full indie in the upcoming years.
If this is the case, it looks like I'm going to end up going full indie in the upcoming years.
Dear Blizzard, did Activision make you stupid, or are you doing this all by yourself?
Signed, someone who just preordered TL2
Signed, someone who just preordered TL2
I still don't understand why a retail purchase has no wait time but a digital purchase does. Is it something to do with the payment needing to clear for digital purchase? I just don't get it.
No game is worth all the bullshit they're pulling with Diablo 3. Hell it wasn't worth it when it was forced online play only. If games keep this trend up, I'm going to have a lot more free cash lying about.
Fuck this. They should just take down the fucking auction houses until they can resolve the problem they created. Punish the assholes who are trying to cheat and scam, not the poor fucks who just gave you $60.
For what it's worth, *some* of this is actually a good thing. But a lot of it isn't.
I'm tired of having to delete three friend requests from gold farmers every single time I boot the game. And I'm tired of seeing general chat spammed with even more gold farmers. This will help stem that, presumably.
The problem is it overreaches. What, exactly, is the rationale behind limiting access to stages?
They'd do better to just set up a better spam filter in the chat panels and friend lists, and stop crippling the game for paying customers.
I'm tired of having to delete three friend requests from gold farmers every single time I boot the game. And I'm tired of seeing general chat spammed with even more gold farmers. This will help stem that, presumably.
The problem is it overreaches. What, exactly, is the rationale behind limiting access to stages?
They'd do better to just set up a better spam filter in the chat panels and friend lists, and stop crippling the game for paying customers.
What in the fuck... This doesn't affect me, since I bought it retail, but holy shit, what the hell kind of crap is this?
Meh, not really that big of a deal, but still makes no sense.
Meh, not really that big of a deal, but still makes no sense.
Sir, before I we can let you play Diablo 3 I have to ask you this one question: what were you doing in Pakistan in the summer of 2010?
May seem ignorant, but I'm glad I never made an effort to care, find out about or research the Diablo franchise as Diablo 3 was coming around. I have enough games to rage about concerning poor evolution, retcons and business practices.
On the note of Activision vs EA, both of them are making terrible moves with their franchises and adopted franchises as they ate other companies from the inside. >_>
On the note of Activision vs EA, both of them are making terrible moves with their franchises and adopted franchises as they ate other companies from the inside. >_>
All I can say is this is the first time I have ever wanted a refund from Blizzard.
I don't know what has changed in the management environment or if it's just direct meddling from Activision, but this studio isnt slipping it straight took a Wil E. Coyote style drop 10,000 feet straight down and landed with a reputation destroying THUD.
The problem is compounded because all of the problems, complaints, and bad PR this game has received is due to some of the most blatant, low down, snake in the grass money grubbing I have ever seen a company engage in. And what for? Was $60 bucks (which is more than the game is worth IMO ) not enough from your consumers? Given that they bought a glitchy product missing features, essentially unfinshed, and requires constant patching, how can they with any sanity demand more money from us to use a "feature" we already paid for when buying the game?
I don't know what has changed in the management environment or if it's just direct meddling from Activision, but this studio isnt slipping it straight took a Wil E. Coyote style drop 10,000 feet straight down and landed with a reputation destroying THUD.
The problem is compounded because all of the problems, complaints, and bad PR this game has received is due to some of the most blatant, low down, snake in the grass money grubbing I have ever seen a company engage in. And what for? Was $60 bucks (which is more than the game is worth IMO ) not enough from your consumers? Given that they bought a glitchy product missing features, essentially unfinshed, and requires constant patching, how can they with any sanity demand more money from us to use a "feature" we already paid for when buying the game?
All I can say is this is the first time I have ever wanted a refund from Blizzard.
I don't know what has changed in the management environment or if it's just direct meddling from Activision, but this studio isnt slipping it straight took a Wil E. Coyote style drop 10,000 feet straight down and landed with a reputation destroying THUD.
The problem is compounded because all of the problems, complaints, and bad PR this game has received is due to some of the most blatant, low down, snake in the grass money grubbing I have ever seen a company engage in. And what for? Was $60 bucks (which is more than the game is worth IMO ) not enough from your consumers? Given that they bought a glitchy product missing features, essentially unfinshed, and requires constant patching, how can they with any sanity demand more money from us to use a "feature" we already paid for when buying the game?
I don't know what has changed in the management environment or if it's just direct meddling from Activision, but this studio isnt slipping it straight took a Wil E. Coyote style drop 10,000 feet straight down and landed with a reputation destroying THUD.
The problem is compounded because all of the problems, complaints, and bad PR this game has received is due to some of the most blatant, low down, snake in the grass money grubbing I have ever seen a company engage in. And what for? Was $60 bucks (which is more than the game is worth IMO ) not enough from your consumers? Given that they bought a glitchy product missing features, essentially unfinshed, and requires constant patching, how can they with any sanity demand more money from us to use a "feature" we already paid for when buying the game?
Honestly, I've defended Blizzard through every bad decision they've made in the past but this is it, I'm finally on the "Blizzard has let Activision influence it too much" boat.
@ima420r: Apparently if you buy a boxed copy, you're fine with not letting Blizzard have 100% of the profits from the sale, but if you buy digital, you're willing to let Blizzard have all of your money which gives them pause.
I think.
I think.
Not good enough. Either be consistent and restrict both versions of the game (still a bad decision but at least any security reasons they gave would make more sense) or don't restrict them at all. I'm seeing reports of people waiting more than 72 hours as well, and it's getting a bit muddy whether or not this is a bug or a feature - this is getting sad.
I don't get upset about much, but this is fucking stupid. I purchased the game, and you say I can't have the content until I'm deemed worthy? I thought my money is what made me worthy. Fuck you Blizzard. You've just lost my money. Present and future.
I'm so glad I didn't spend $60 on a game that heavily restricts it's users, can only be played with a steady online connection, and has a freemium model (pay real money for item advantage in a game where you grind similar enemies endlessly) that isn't free.
I can't believe how many rabid fans put up with Blizzard's bullshit.
I can't believe how many rabid fans put up with Blizzard's bullshit.
Ugh. It's reasons like the above why I no longer have any desire to play Diablo 3. Right now it's just taking up space.
@Daniel: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Jim was referring to the real money auction house issue, which I believe is one of the substantial justifications Bliz is giving for the measures. That is a self created problem since they didn't have to include a real money auction house.
It's dumb, but at the same time those fucking china farmer spam are annoying as fuck. Good riddance.
If you already have your CC linked to your Blizzard account for previous purchases or your WoW subscription, it will likely take much less than 72hrs, more likely nearly instant. Likely the "review" period is to stop people from buying the game with stolen credit cards. It was an issue with WoW as well.
God forbid a company restrict a person from playing the full game until they've verified payment. Blizzard have been doing this for years when upgrading trial WoW accounts, so why the fury now? And if you really think this is worth getting mad about, then you should be complaining about how long it takes payment providers to perform verification, not about how Blizzard is wanting to protect the quality of its service by denying fraudsters access to the game.
It is you who needs to prove to be deserving of this game and not the other way around. Just pay first and we'll take you into consideration for ownership of a playing license.
Oh by the way, thanks for the champagne you nostalgic dorks. Thanks for not figuring us out by now. Idiots.
Love,
Acti-Blizz
Oh by the way, thanks for the champagne you nostalgic dorks. Thanks for not figuring us out by now. Idiots.
Love,
Acti-Blizz
like others i was considering giving D3 a go, but this is just enough to convince me not to bother. i appreciate that blizzard needs to stop people ruining the game (and their money making auction house) but i don't really give a shit about any of the online features anyway.
Hmm, kinda of crazy, i bought a single player RPG from steam, and i can play it whenever i can...hell, i even got to play it as soon as it finished installing!. Not only that, but i'm getting free content in the form of mods, why nobody is charging me for extra content ?, the game cost me under $60, it should have day one DLC or something, i can believe the developers are given away an entire game for so little as 60 bucks.
And..i can play it offline ?, guys i'm scared, maybe my game is malware ?, someone hug me.
And..i can play it offline ?, guys i'm scared, maybe my game is malware ?, someone hug me.
Such a shame to see Diablo 3, after all these years of anticipation, come out with all these issues and restrictions.
I will never purchase this game. Beyond that, I will never buy any Blizzard product of any sort ever again. I only regret that I have, in the past, given them some of my money.
If I buy a game, I should be allowed to play, not treated as some sort of potential criminal because other people are being naughty. All this means, now, is that the people who are being naughty just have to behave for three days first. The problem will still exist, and this will not have an impact on it.
What they need to do is get better at catching the people who are breaking the rules, instead of punishing people who just wanted to buy and play their game. This is disgraceful.
If I buy a game, I should be allowed to play, not treated as some sort of potential criminal because other people are being naughty. All this means, now, is that the people who are being naughty just have to behave for three days first. The problem will still exist, and this will not have an impact on it.
What they need to do is get better at catching the people who are breaking the rules, instead of punishing people who just wanted to buy and play their game. This is disgraceful.
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