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In b4 Jim haters' complaints about Jim beating an already dead horse by bringing up the piracy issue again.
It always seems quality and a healthy dose of humility goes a long way to drawing in paying customers. Don't rush a game out the door and don't treat your customers like idiots and you'll be rewarded with sales
I know that the reason I buy games legally is because I am lazy as hell, and it is so much easier to buy it on steam than it is to pirate it.
ubisoft problem is actitude towards pc gaming. Ports are ok, but pc´s can handle better graphics than consoles... of course that means investing more.
I really dont think ubisoft has quality products on pc, they are doing everything they can to enrage customers, remember from dust.
I really dont think ubisoft has quality products on pc, they are doing everything they can to enrage customers, remember from dust.
Ubisoft, start taking notes, because you seriously need to be educated on how to treat consumers from these guys.
I didn't buy Serious Sam, but this made me rethink to buy it. Croteam is a awesome company and should be one of the role models that we have on the PC counterpart.
"While being good doesn't guarantee that your game won't get stolen..."
While I agree with you to some extent, I think you're missing the point here. It's not that good games prevent piracy. It's that good games make money.. regardless of piracy.
That's the tale of the PC. You can make truckloads.. even if you're getting pirated repeatedly.
While I agree with you to some extent, I think you're missing the point here. It's not that good games prevent piracy. It's that good games make money.. regardless of piracy.
That's the tale of the PC. You can make truckloads.. even if you're getting pirated repeatedly.
killias2: No, I get the point. I was just making that point in answer to people who WOULD say, "Well they still get pirated," as someone on Twitter said while I was chatting with Fork.
7 days before Skyrim was released on PC , 27 000 people were downloading game from just one torr*ent site. Fact! Enough said. People, deal with it... Master race my arse.
While I don't pirate pc games, I am gonna open up that can of worms and say I make sure to buy new (instead of used) for brands and games I love. I think that while there are people that will always pirate and don't care to support the developers, this generation has also seen an increase in awareness of the need to support those developers. And I think there's a growing segment of people doing their part to support them as well.
I'm on a bus (not boat), so I hope that made sense.
I'm on a bus (not boat), so I hope that made sense.
It took damn near a decade for the music industry to get with the picture, and the music industry is exponentially more open than gaming is. Gaming companies have always enjoyed an amount of control over their product, if for no other reason than because there is just nowhere else for a gamer to turn to if they're dissatisfied (relatively speaking), and this allowed them to profit immensely.
Now they've lost that control and know no other way to deal with it than to tighten what control they have left. I wonder how much more of this ridiculousness gaming will have to endure before that mentality gives way to innovation.
Now they've lost that control and know no other way to deal with it than to tighten what control they have left. I wonder how much more of this ridiculousness gaming will have to endure before that mentality gives way to innovation.
See I'm the kind of person that will pirate a game, unless it's worth buying... Every dollar you spend sends a message to the developers. So if there's a 95% piracy rate, people are trying to tell you your game isn't worth buying.
@The Nakedest
Actually it's pretty easy. It's a matter of downloading, dragging and dropping a file and running. This applies to the old games that don't have any kind of DRM, but I think those are easy to pirate too.
Now the issue is that if you are not willing to pay for a modern game, why should you bother torrenting it? It will suck anyway.
@DarkCult
So for a change, we actually see positive news about the PC market... and you posted that comment.
The first line shoved it in your face that it was about PC but you stayed here to post a comment about how much you hate X and Y because of what 27 thousand people did. 27k isn't 95% of the total Skyrim players, as far as I am concerned.
And FYI, console piracy exists. 100% of your games were developed in computers. All your arguments are invalid.
Actually it's pretty easy. It's a matter of downloading, dragging and dropping a file and running. This applies to the old games that don't have any kind of DRM, but I think those are easy to pirate too.
Now the issue is that if you are not willing to pay for a modern game, why should you bother torrenting it? It will suck anyway.
@DarkCult
So for a change, we actually see positive news about the PC market... and you posted that comment.
The first line shoved it in your face that it was about PC but you stayed here to post a comment about how much you hate X and Y because of what 27 thousand people did. 27k isn't 95% of the total Skyrim players, as far as I am concerned.
And FYI, console piracy exists. 100% of your games were developed in computers. All your arguments are invalid.
@DarkCult
And yet 200k were playing Skrim simultaneously on Steam THE DAY IT RELEASED. Bethesda is still rolling in gold right now. FACT! That 27k didn't hurt them one bit. Deal with it.
And yet 200k were playing Skrim simultaneously on Steam THE DAY IT RELEASED. Bethesda is still rolling in gold right now. FACT! That 27k didn't hurt them one bit. Deal with it.
This guy has the right idea about combating piracy. To stop it you shouldn't impose sanctions on players (drm, long ass codes ect.) you REWARD them for buying your game. If the player is getting something awesome with the game, or if the game is good itself, people are more likely to buy it
Stop punishing players, start rewarding them
Stop punishing players, start rewarding them
Totally agree. I am a PC gamer and this is why I pay for my favorite games, music and everything else: When u love it, u support it.
A small list of things I insist in giving my money for:
- Iron Maiden, Iced Earth, Nightwish, Foo Fighters albuns (and others)
- Battlefield series
- Portal series
- Diablo series
- Batman
- Street Fighter
- and others
Awesome content deserves my money.
Also, I'd love to pay for playing zelda and mortal kombat on PC.
thats all!
A small list of things I insist in giving my money for:
- Iron Maiden, Iced Earth, Nightwish, Foo Fighters albuns (and others)
- Battlefield series
- Portal series
- Diablo series
- Batman
- Street Fighter
- and others
Awesome content deserves my money.
Also, I'd love to pay for playing zelda and mortal kombat on PC.
thats all!
oh my this is disgraceful, piracy is killing the pc market!!!
oh wait, the developer is not complaining about piracy? why aren't there 200 angry anti pirate comments here?
oh wait, the developer is not complaining about piracy? why aren't there 200 angry anti pirate comments here?
@Darth2b-lub: Check out Blind Guardian and Demons & Wizards if you like Iced Earth you should definitely enjoy those.
Also check out Nevermore if you're feeling saucy :)
Also check out Nevermore if you're feeling saucy :)
To me PC gaming has a few issues to nail out, but could be seriously profitable and somewhat less piratey if publishers/developers take Fork's words to heart.
One thing really is the distribution: Steam works great, D2D works too (not as good as steam, but I've bought from them enough to say I like their sales and their service), Good Old Games is an amazing service too. These places make you want to come back to them, not just the games they happen to sell. Thats a pretty big thing, and way better then when you could go down to Babbages back in the 90's and pay $40 for a game with no extra care given to your purchase. The added extras or sales Steam gives you are amazing, and its no wonder they're on top of the PC distribution game.
Second, PC gaming has a lot of shovelware: Honestly, you go into a place like Best Buy that might still sell PC stuff and for every Skyrim you'll see 20 "classic games" compilations. Even the really great Popcap stuff comes off looking like shovelware, specially due to its packaging and proximity to the shovelware. It weighs everything down for PC gaming, much like it did for the Wii -Only that its been happening since THE BEGINNING OF TIME! (just like piracy -if anything, it could be said shovelware invented Piracy) Unless you absolutely know what your buying, its a pain in the ass to shift through all that for the gems. Developers have to make great games, but retailers also have to help out and make those great games known to customers, or else your just saturating an over-saturated market.
Third, like Fork said, games need to be awesome: This kinda goes with point 1 & 2 but it really needs its own spot. Awesome games do sell, so subpar or ported PC games kind of need to quit the BS and be awesome.. but its also finding the awesome games in that sea of suck that becomes the issue -Steam and other services makes that really simple, and for great prices, plus they weed out all the crap and get your right into those great games.
Fourth, and not mentioned really any where in this, awesome games need to work out of the box: I know hardware/software differences are the main cause, and it takes A LOT to get them to work right away because of this, but if more games worked out of the box then people would jump into PC gaming head first. And that's kinda the thing that -at least- Steam and Good Old Games tries to do; They try to sell you games in a way they're going to work right out of the gate -and because of that, people flock to them. It strips away the intimidation factor AND it makes paying $30-$40 (or less) on a game worth it when you know the game will actually work without hours of stress. Thats a huge thing to people. And the master race would lose nothing if more games came out that way, because they'd surely be able to mess with them and make them look/play even better. It'd be Win/Win.
One thing really is the distribution: Steam works great, D2D works too (not as good as steam, but I've bought from them enough to say I like their sales and their service), Good Old Games is an amazing service too. These places make you want to come back to them, not just the games they happen to sell. Thats a pretty big thing, and way better then when you could go down to Babbages back in the 90's and pay $40 for a game with no extra care given to your purchase. The added extras or sales Steam gives you are amazing, and its no wonder they're on top of the PC distribution game.
Second, PC gaming has a lot of shovelware: Honestly, you go into a place like Best Buy that might still sell PC stuff and for every Skyrim you'll see 20 "classic games" compilations. Even the really great Popcap stuff comes off looking like shovelware, specially due to its packaging and proximity to the shovelware. It weighs everything down for PC gaming, much like it did for the Wii -Only that its been happening since THE BEGINNING OF TIME! (just like piracy -if anything, it could be said shovelware invented Piracy) Unless you absolutely know what your buying, its a pain in the ass to shift through all that for the gems. Developers have to make great games, but retailers also have to help out and make those great games known to customers, or else your just saturating an over-saturated market.
Third, like Fork said, games need to be awesome: This kinda goes with point 1 & 2 but it really needs its own spot. Awesome games do sell, so subpar or ported PC games kind of need to quit the BS and be awesome.. but its also finding the awesome games in that sea of suck that becomes the issue -Steam and other services makes that really simple, and for great prices, plus they weed out all the crap and get your right into those great games.
Fourth, and not mentioned really any where in this, awesome games need to work out of the box: I know hardware/software differences are the main cause, and it takes A LOT to get them to work right away because of this, but if more games worked out of the box then people would jump into PC gaming head first. And that's kinda the thing that -at least- Steam and Good Old Games tries to do; They try to sell you games in a way they're going to work right out of the gate -and because of that, people flock to them. It strips away the intimidation factor AND it makes paying $30-$40 (or less) on a game worth it when you know the game will actually work without hours of stress. Thats a huge thing to people. And the master race would lose nothing if more games came out that way, because they'd surely be able to mess with them and make them look/play even better. It'd be Win/Win.
Well duh *rolls eyes* Of course Ubisoft and Activision will bitch about piracy when they make crappy games. I think that they were first to phase out game demos in effort to sucker people into buying their games with flashy adds. For some games this tactic works but for most doesn't. Make good games and people will buy them after downloading pirated versions and seeing that your product is worth money. Or just reintroduce game demos.
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While Ubisoft developers cry about 95% piracy rates, games like Skyrim and Serious Sam 3 are raking in the dubloons from PC gamers.
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I suppose it's a case of the glass being half empty/full.
While Ubisoft developers cry about 95% piracy rates, games like Skyrim and Serious Sam 3 are raking in the dubloons from PC gamers.
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I suppose it's a case of the glass being half empty/full.
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