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I'm with you Mr Sterling, but then, I've never actually played the Devil May Cry series so I don't really have any right to say anything
I'm with you, Mr Sterling, but then, I've never actually played the Devil May Cry series so I don't really have any right to say anything
Ninja Theory is a pretty awesome studio, but I'm just not feeling this new Dante. Hell, even Kamiya-san hates him. Just doesn't seem right.
This new Dante is probably gonna be all "emotional" and have someone to "care" for and strive for a greater "goal". Fuck that, give me my pizza chugging, backflipping asshole that was the Dante of old.
That's part of the problem with creating works for hire (or having children). Once you've created them, you don't have the final say in what happens to them. The longer you stick around,the more influence you can have.
Kamiya is an absentee father so he can't tell Mama Capcom not to let Dante dye has hair any more than Stan Lee can stop Mama Marvel from adopting a new Spider Man the moment he heads out the door (or even as he was sitting there,as the Clone Saga was proof of).
He'd best not step out on Platinum or else he shouldn't be too shocked if they turn Bayonetta into a Catholic school girl/build a game around little Cereza or drape a magical veil over her entire body.
Kamiya is an absentee father so he can't tell Mama Capcom not to let Dante dye has hair any more than Stan Lee can stop Mama Marvel from adopting a new Spider Man the moment he heads out the door (or even as he was sitting there,as the Clone Saga was proof of).
He'd best not step out on Platinum or else he shouldn't be too shocked if they turn Bayonetta into a Catholic school girl/build a game around little Cereza or drape a magical veil over her entire body.
Old dante is still in MVC3. Lets give this new one a shot. He might turn out to be a chain smoking, backflipping, asshole in the end...
I cant say a thing about the game because its not out and I havent played it. From what Ive seen it looks alright but I dont like the character model and I think Hideki Kamiya could make a better DMC than Ninja Theory.
Kamiya has already expressed his dislike of any DMC he wasn't involved with (which are all but the first one). Sure, the changes on the main character probably doesn't help, but his contempt is not a surprise.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Replacing the original Dante with this poser is the same as trying to make a Terminator movie without Arnold. It doesn't matter how much better the story, or the action might be, the fans want their star.
Change him back damn it, or atleast let us know this little puke will evolve into the Dante we know and live as the story progresses.
Change him back damn it, or atleast let us know this little puke will evolve into the Dante we know and live as the story progresses.
Jim, if you think that Dante looks 'badass', you lived in England too long. Here in America, we have higher standards of badassery, namely bald, on steroids, and probably lives in space.
@Penkaizen
Not the only one. I think the new Dante is way better. I've never been a fan of the other games, though, so it might just be that.
Not the only one. I think the new Dante is way better. I've never been a fan of the other games, though, so it might just be that.
I'm with PenKaizen and the rest of the small minority - I like New Dante too. I liked DMC3 but after trying the demo for DMC4 and watching loads of gameplay footage, I just couldn't make myself care about it. So maybe this reboot is just what the series needs. Ninja Theory seem like cool guys and girls, the trailer and screenshots were really cool, and I don't feel even remotely "betrayed" by the change in style. I think DmC looks awesome, bring it on!
I'll play it as long as it plays like DMC. I could care less about how he looks. Well and to be honest, he's always looked "emo" he just has black hair instead of white hair now. Say whatever you want, but it's not gonna change the fact that he looked like Hot Topic threw up on him then and he does now.
I kind of like the new Dante and I consider the new approximation to the game to be VERY BADASS, however, what I don't like is Dante's haircut, nothing more, nothing less, I like that he now has dark hair but like many said b4 he looks pretty emo. Then again, we play with man-emo-girls in every JRPG
At least Dante looks like a man.
The new Dante is just make-up, as long as the soul of the franchise still intact. What I do not want to be changed is Dante's personality. I like his personality and his one-liners like "Well... this is my kind of rain" or "Adios kid". But if the change if for better, BRING IT ON.
At least Dante looks like a man.
The new Dante is just make-up, as long as the soul of the franchise still intact. What I do not want to be changed is Dante's personality. I like his personality and his one-liners like "Well... this is my kind of rain" or "Adios kid". But if the change if for better, BRING IT ON.
Looks bad ass? What have you seen of the game that you're not reporting? The trailer looks cool, but it doesn't represent what's to come.
I don't mind the new look. Though he could do with eating a decent meal by the looks of him. But are they jumping onto the whole "dark and gritty" route or trying out the whole Twilight thing if I went by looking at the "new" Dante. Or maybe a bit of both.
But the best thing about Dante was how damn cheesy yet cool at the same time and I honestly can't say he looks the part. Could you imagine this new Dante dancing around with a rose in his mouth and still remain badass?
But the best thing about Dante was how damn cheesy yet cool at the same time and I honestly can't say he looks the part. Could you imagine this new Dante dancing around with a rose in his mouth and still remain badass?
The only hope that the fanboys have is: since this is the first trailer, they can change the character later.
fuck the look i have every single DMC game and i'm definitely getting this one. looking at Enslaved i know for sure that Ninja theory has what it takes to make a awesome DmC game, im actually willing to bet that this is going to be better than DMC 1 and 3 because with all the pressure ninja theory has on this game game being perfect, there is no room for failure.
@AngelsDontBurn: Exactly... I can't believe people are so eager to call the new Dante emo, yet forget about the original: A poser with a fast mouth who wanted to be treated seriously while yelling "AM I COOL OR WHAT?" at the top of his lungs...
Personally, its the action and gameplay that interest me in DMC, so I will hold judgement until I see some gameplay footage. So far, at least I can say they tried something far more interesting than making a "new" character that looks exactly like the original.
Personally, its the action and gameplay that interest me in DMC, so I will hold judgement until I see some gameplay footage. So far, at least I can say they tried something far more interesting than making a "new" character that looks exactly like the original.
Too bad he wasntin' running in the header.........
Wait for it..
wait...
AWwwwwwwwwwwwww
RUN DMC
KAAAFLOOOOM
Wait for it..
wait...
AWwwwwwwwwwwwww
RUN DMC
KAAAFLOOOOM
Well dick sterling, perhaps you can at least concede that the Internet isn't overreacting when the creator himself doesn't even feel pleased.
Way I see it now, perhaps ninja
theory should keep this Dante so if and when they fuck up, we can all move on and forget about the spinoff that once was.
Way I see it now, perhaps ninja
theory should keep this Dante so if and when they fuck up, we can all move on and forget about the spinoff that once was.
This makes as much sense as nipples on the Batsuit. If he grows into the same silver-haired badass he used to be, then I'm sold. It'll be a cool ride.
But, if not, then Capcom will have slapped one of their most hardcore fans in the lips. I've suffered enough, what with the Dark Void and Bionic Commando debacles.
They say they want to cater to the West. They weren't doing such a bad job by staying Japanese, it caused them to put out games that weren't what Western audiences were innundated with every time a Western game came out. Maybe that was the magic charm, and if they only marketed their most quality offerings (which would cost less than marketing AND financing the production of a game that wasn't up to par to begin with), maybe titles like Okami and Zack & Wiki would have stood more than a snowball's chance in Hell. Maybe the message they're getting from the West is a direct result of not sending the right message TO the West in the first place.
They still put old Dante in MvC3. They know what their fans want, somewhere deep down. Or at least I keep telling myself that.
But, if not, then Capcom will have slapped one of their most hardcore fans in the lips. I've suffered enough, what with the Dark Void and Bionic Commando debacles.
They say they want to cater to the West. They weren't doing such a bad job by staying Japanese, it caused them to put out games that weren't what Western audiences were innundated with every time a Western game came out. Maybe that was the magic charm, and if they only marketed their most quality offerings (which would cost less than marketing AND financing the production of a game that wasn't up to par to begin with), maybe titles like Okami and Zack & Wiki would have stood more than a snowball's chance in Hell. Maybe the message they're getting from the West is a direct result of not sending the right message TO the West in the first place.
They still put old Dante in MvC3. They know what their fans want, somewhere deep down. Or at least I keep telling myself that.
Has anyone actually seen the fucking trailer? I didn't notice any different behavior from the original Dante, and everything looked so badass. When DMC4 came, no one really hated it. Nooooooooo, he looked 90% just like Dante, so it was ok.... Bah, it makes me sick, people that judge the looks.
If he didn't look like such a douche I'd be so excited right now. I got a feeling playing this game is gonna feel a lot like playing with Lars in Tekken. Great fighter but awful look that ruins the character.
I correct myself:
"When DMC4 came, no one really hated it and the new protagonist Nero. Nooooooooo, he looked 90% just like Dante, so it was ok.... Bah, it makes me sick, people that judge only because of the looks.
"When DMC4 came, no one really hated it and the new protagonist Nero. Nooooooooo, he looked 90% just like Dante, so it was ok.... Bah, it makes me sick, people that judge only because of the looks.
Just for the record - I played 3 and 4. I enjoyed them. I have never liked Dante particularly. I'm fine with the new design, he does not look any less plausible than the last one. Maybe that means I'm not a "true fan" or something. But far be it from me to mess up the hate party! Rage on, you beautiful nerds. Rage on.
Kamiya doesn't like anything that he didn't personally touch, so this means nothing.
And really, I think this whole scenario has shown how closed-minded gamers as a whole can be. We've seen basically squat of this game, and already everyone is saying that the world is ruined forever. We should probably learn to judge what the game offers rather than dismissing it due to misguided nostalgia.
And really, I think this whole scenario has shown how closed-minded gamers as a whole can be. We've seen basically squat of this game, and already everyone is saying that the world is ruined forever. We should probably learn to judge what the game offers rather than dismissing it due to misguided nostalgia.
It's funny the outrage sparked by all this, personally i don't see why it's all so apparent.
Also, the new Dante looks like Rey Gutierrez:
Also, the new Dante looks like Rey Gutierrez:
@Everyday Legend
"I've suffered enough, what with the Dark Void and Bionic Commando debacles."
Suffered enough? From bad video games that no one forced you to buy? Listen to yourself and your pretentious, self-righteous, oh poor me attitude. Everyone bitching about a character design as though they've been personally raped by Capcom is so full of crap. Get over yourselves and shut up.
"I've suffered enough, what with the Dark Void and Bionic Commando debacles."
Suffered enough? From bad video games that no one forced you to buy? Listen to yourself and your pretentious, self-righteous, oh poor me attitude. Everyone bitching about a character design as though they've been personally raped by Capcom is so full of crap. Get over yourselves and shut up.
Kamiya later retweeted the article about his comments, and said he shouldn't answer questions like that in English since they're inevitably misunderstood.
I think he meant "Whatever" to mean "I don't give a shit" rather than anything contemptuous, and didn't quite understand the connotations of it.
He also mentions that this is hardly the first time Dante has changed in a way he wouldn't have changed him.
I think he meant "Whatever" to mean "I don't give a shit" rather than anything contemptuous, and didn't quite understand the connotations of it.
He also mentions that this is hardly the first time Dante has changed in a way he wouldn't have changed him.
Not a fan of the new look but I also don't get that the creator is too upset either. I think he just wishes he were still involved. Nothing wrong with that.
I haven't cared about DMC since the first game. I appreciated the charm of the voice actor who played Dante and was saddened when he was replaced. The second was okay but it never held my interest and I never bothered with the others. New Dante looks like shit but if the game is good fair enough.
I haven't cared about DMC since the first game. I appreciated the charm of the voice actor who played Dante and was saddened when he was replaced. The second was okay but it never held my interest and I never bothered with the others. New Dante looks like shit but if the game is good fair enough.
Kamiya is a legend. Anyone would be unhappy seeing their creations (like okami, dmc) that they put a lot into and gained acclaim for, handed over to other devs.
We haven't seen anything about this game at all apart from its styling, which comes across as a lot more serious in tone.
Everybody loves Dante, I think he's awesome (and cheesy, sarcastic and witty, a loveable asshole, full of himself and untouchable) and I've barely played the series. The fact that the new guy even smokes (which Dante says he is too cool to do) presents a VERY different picture.
Original creator's comments mean a lot.
Everybody loves Dante, I think he's awesome (and cheesy, sarcastic and witty, a loveable asshole, full of himself and untouchable) and I've barely played the series. The fact that the new guy even smokes (which Dante says he is too cool to do) presents a VERY different picture.
Original creator's comments mean a lot.
I don't much care for DMC myself, but it isn't exactly a secret that Ninja Theory specializes in butt-ugly character design and this is no exception.
It's one of oft-ignored evils of mass-media publication: having to sign over your creation in the name of work. At first, everything's fine, as the initial run follows your ideas...but then they want more, and they want it from someone else because they've got you working on -another- good idea. Unfortunately, you signed a contract stating anything you create while working under their wing becomes the sole property of the publication house to do with as they will. Now you get to watch as the company you work/ed for takes your baby and warps it into whatever it sees fit...and, sadly, most of the time that means it's soul is left somewhere on the cutting room floor. Comic books and soap operas are notorious for taking someone's beloved and mutilating them beyond recognition. Video games are following suit, where many games into a series sees nothing but a shell of what once was.
As someone who has his own stable of privately-owned characters, I can certainly feel this guys pain. So, unfortunately, my initial "Yay, this looks cool" reaction to the new "DMC" is now sufficiently shot to crap.
As someone who has his own stable of privately-owned characters, I can certainly feel this guys pain. So, unfortunately, my initial "Yay, this looks cool" reaction to the new "DMC" is now sufficiently shot to crap.
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