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Super Columbine Massacre RPG, the independently-made PC game based on the school shooting in Littleton, Colorado was yanked from the Slamdance Guerilla Gamemaker Competition a few days ago due to overwhelming controversy surrounding the title's entry.

In protest, several developers have yanked their games from the contest, including Jonathan Blow's Braid,  Jonathan Mak's Everyday Shooter, and Kellee Santiago's flOw, and pretty much all of them have posted open letters to Slamdance on their blogs. Jonathan Mak says it best:

 "The game lacks compassion, and I find the Artist's Statement disingenuous. But despite this, the game does have redeeming value. It does provoke important thoughts, and it does push the boundaries of what games are about. It is composed with more of an eye toward art than most games. Clearly, it belongs at the festival."

Danny Ledonne, creator of SCMRPG, states that his game exists to initiate conversation, present the events of Columbine from the perspective of the boys, and push the boundaries of what a video game can be. This sounds really great until you actually play the game and find it to be a more or less completely uncompassionate portrayal of the suffering that happened that day. Not to mention the entire second half of the game is one big joke that directly contradicts whatever artistic credibility the game may have earned for itself in the first half (after shooting themselves, the boys go to hell and meet Mario, Mega Man, and Pikachu. They then fight monsters from Doom and then finally Satan, who looks exactly like he does in South Park).

But even so, did the game deserve to be pulled? No. Regardless of how full of BS Ledonne's excuse for the game is, it does inspire a lot of discussion, it does successfully portray the events of that day through the eyes of Harris and Klebold, and it does redefine what a video game can be.

But what do you think? Comment.

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dprime's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/09/2007 12:43
dprime
First comment!
Toneman's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/09/2007 12:44
Toneman
Hooray for you?
Darren Nakamura's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/09/2007 12:47
Darren Nakamura
I'm all for free expression and all that. If the game is garbage, it won't win, but they shouldn't be censoring it just because it's a tasteless depiction of a tragic event.
Ryro's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/09/2007 12:50
Ryro
Dexter, if you haven't played the game, then STFU. The goal of the game is not to murder as many people as possible, and anyone who plays it for more than an hour can easily see that.

By the way, I found out about this via <a href="http://tmmtlt.blogspot.com/2007/01/slamming-slamdance-for-its-slights.html">TMMTLT</a>.
Ryro's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/09/2007 12:50
Ryro
gah, no html:

http://tmmtlt.blogspot.com/
Chris Taran's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/09/2007 12:54
Chris Taran
I was pretty apould when I found out Slamdance pulled the game. The supposed purpose of the festival is to showcase creative, original, thought provoking, and yes even controversial media. No game short of a Rockstar game has had as much discussion in recent memory as SCMRPG. It shows how games can be a social commentary on todays hot topics and also contribute to the conversation at large.

Slamdance lost a lot of credibility when they pulled the game and I'm glad to see people protesting it, particularly the fellow game nominees. It's great to see them support each like this.
Darren Nakamura's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/09/2007 13:01
Darren Nakamura
Ryro: I haven't played the game, but I did read the text above this little comment area. And did you even listen to me? I am against it being pulled from the competition.
DurandalAI's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/09/2007 13:01
DurandalAI
Above says it all.
Snaileb 's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/09/2007 13:07
Snaileb
It's a pretty screwed up game, but it does reach the right idea when it comes to the festival when it comes to such controvesial topics like this.

Also Ryro, Dexter345 didnt say the same wasnt all about murdering, or for that fact, didnt say anything negative at all. Lock your hater keys and chill out.
Snaileb 's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/09/2007 13:08
Snaileb
*same = game (puts down the pipe)
dprime's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/09/2007 13:17
dprime
Not allowing someone into your private competition isn't censorship. If something's tasteless, you have every reason and right to deny giving it help. It's only censorship if they physically stop them from showing it themselves, which of course they (or the government) have no right to do, even if the game is "improper."
elerra's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/09/2007 13:33
elerra
They shouldn't have pulled the game. Instead, they should have kept it in and giving it the scathingly bad assessment it deserves.

Yes, it generates discussion. But _it's a shitty game_, especially compared to the other games in Slamdance.
SubOrbital's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/09/2007 14:19
SubOrbital
They have every right to do that. And frankly the person who made the game is a twat. Thank goodness some of the VG community have a heart and some sense.
SubOrbital's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/09/2007 14:21
SubOrbital
Chris, you're an idiot. Social commentary or irresponsible sympathizing? And I bet when a kid plays the game and starts shooting people up because it was ok in the game, you'll try and excuse that right? Grow a brain.
Snaileb 's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/09/2007 14:25
Snaileb
Yeah SubOrbital, he would, because you don't pick up a videogame and re-inact what you see. And anyone who doesn't know better needs to A) Not fuckin play games
B) Get stabbed in the face
C) Grow a brain.

You're like, Jack Thompson of D'toid.
Chris Taran's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/09/2007 14:39
Chris Taran
Right, right, right. I forgot, games make people do things. Particularly violent things.

My bad, for some reason I thought free will still existed and that people who think that imaginary things are real or imitate things they see on TV, movies, video games, or in music regardless of how insane or vehement those things may be are fucking retarded mental deficients who would do stupid/violent things regardless of where they got their 'inspiration'.

Sorry again about that, I was way off base there.
webrunner's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/09/2007 14:43
webrunner
If you made a movie about Columbine, and it was tasteless, would Sundance drop you?
Snaileb 's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/09/2007 14:47
Snaileb
Nice Chris, took what I said and made it sound 100 times better, therefore making yourself sound like a fuckin philosipher. Can I be a mullet pimp like you?
nerpin's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/09/2007 14:56
nerpin
...It's an RPG Maker game. Why the hell does anyone care?
Chris Taran's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/09/2007 15:01
Chris Taran
You've totally earned mullet pimp status Snaileb.

This mullet goes out to you:

Ryro's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/09/2007 15:09
Ryro
This one didn't get nominated because of it's superb game play, it got nominated because it had a message to get across. I'd've preferred to see Everyday Shooter win the competition (so awesome!), but for everyone who complains that games should be taken seriously should really double check themselves when they say things like it didn't stand a chance against the other games. It merely did something different.

And Dexter said "they shouldn't be censoring it just because it's a tasteless depiction of a tragic event." If you played the game, then you wouldn't say it was tasteless. So ya, STFU and play the game. This is like Jack Thompson and other loud mouths who tried to get Bully banned when it was surprisingly mild in regards to its violence. And why did they keep mouthing off, and reporting things that were totally untrue about the game Bully? BECAUSE THEY NEVER PLAYED THE GAME. SCM isn't about racking up frags you 'tards. It's twunts like the people commenting here who caused it to be pulled in the first place, regardless of the actual CONTENT of the game itself.
broham's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/09/2007 15:21
broham
So, if I created a game called "Child rape simulator" where you could actually experience what it would be like to be in the mind of a child rapist, would that be ok? Hey, it would bring up discussion.

I get the whole let's not censor anything debate. In my opinion, MY OPINION, there's that line that gets crossed that just makes me say..."Alright, ha ha, you had your fifteen minutes now get the fuck out of here."

For every tragedy, there is someone that creates something like this. I don't think they are trying to open people's eyes. Do you think the people that created those Crocodile Hunter flash games were trying to inform people of the dangers of sea life? No, they were exploiting the death of someone famous to get hits to their game/website.

This guy wasn't trying to do anything else other than take a very controversial, sad, tragic day and turn it into publicity for himself. Can you imagine being one of the parents of a child that died that day? If I was one, I would probably find out where the designer of this game was, and shove the game up his ass.

Like Dennis Miller used to say, that's my opinion, I could be wrong.

Darren Nakamura's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/09/2007 15:27
Darren Nakamura
"This sounds really great until you actually play the game and find it to be a more or less completely uncompassionate portrayal of the suffering that happened that day. Not to mention the entire second half of the game is one big joke that directly contradicts whatever artistic credibility the game may have earned for itself in the first half (after shooting themselves, the boys go to hell and meet Mario, Mega Man, and Pikachu. They then fight monsters from Doom and then finally Satan, who looks exactly like he does in South Park)"

Dear Ryro: that part sounds so tasteful. Pardon me for thinking otherwise earlier.
Chris Taran's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/09/2007 15:27
Chris Taran
"So, if I created a game called "Child rape simulator" where you could actually experience what it would be like to be in the mind of a child rapist, would that be ok?"

Well, since that would be illegal, there wouldn't be much room for debate there. If a snuff film was made, would that make it into Slamdance too? Of course not, because it's illegal.

Come back with something less absurd, as in something that wouldn't get you instantly arrested and I'll have this debate with you.
Snaileb 's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/09/2007 15:30
Snaileb
Dennis Miller says alot of things. Most of which are pointless.




No, seriously, you bring up a good point. That's what is on everyones mind. I, on the other hand, am not a degranged psychopath, and my kid did not go to Columbine, nor did my friends. So in other words, I do feel remorse for that day , but as Dexter said : "they shouldn't be censoring it just because it's a tasteless depiction of a tragic event."

It's not tasteless, I think the big issue here is, they don't want it published.
Snaileb 's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/09/2007 15:31
Snaileb
Wait what? Chris that mullet made me pee my pants. (A little.) Never do that again.







ok one more time. =)
Anthony Burch's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/09/2007 16:25
Anthony Burch
"Tasteless" may be a stretch, but it's not a big one. While the game is relatively tame violence-wise (the battles are done in Final Fantasy style, and only the corpses have blood on them), there's definitely some things about the game that are hard to defend. The entire second half of the game in hell, wherein the boys become quasi-heroes, would be one of those things. Another is that the classmates you kill don't have actual names, but are rather identified by stereotype: "Jock guy," "Prep girl," etcetera. While you could say that puts you more into the shoes of Klebold and Harris considering they viewed people in these stereotypes, it doesn't really go a long way in enforcing the idea that their actions had a real, horrible consequence (which was one of the author's stated intentions).

That being said, after they kill themselves, you are shown the actual death photos taken at the crime scene. Kind of consequential, but it's not something the author exactly created from scratch, as is the case with all the other uncompassionate stuff.
broham's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/09/2007 16:52
broham
OK Chris..yawn.....How bout, Jon Bonet super funtime Christmas. You play the role of the "friend" that has to pick up little trinkets at the hardware store to "play" with her that wonderful night.

Or how bout. Jump jump 9/11. In this great game, you play the role of one of the victims stuck in the towers after they were struck by the airplanes. You have to jump to your death while dodging birds and other debris.

Do you see the very simple point I was trying to make? Are these new games illegal? I was trying to show, IN MY FUCKING OPINION, how trite a game like "super columbine Rpg!...don't forget the exclamation point." sounds. Good lord. Happy now....probably not.
Snaileb 's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/09/2007 17:01
Snaileb
"Or how bout. Jump jump 9/11. In this great game, you play the role of one of the victims stuck in the towers after they were struck by the airplanes. You have to jump to your death while dodging birds and other debris. "

Jump Jump 9/11... is it bad that I laughed at that????? Fuck.

(immediatly did apologize to ... whoever .. is feeling bad. Maybe my brain. Jump jump..)
Chris Taran's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/09/2007 17:45
Chris Taran
Alright, broham, I'll respect your opinion that you don't like seeing these types of games, and I'll agree there are games that can be made in bad taste (although bad taste is subjective).

Still, if someone wants to make a 9/11 game or a Jon Bonet game, I'm not going to say they can't do it, I'm not even going to say I don't think you should do it. I may not play them because they don't appeal to me, but if someone wants to make that game, I'm fine with that.

Maybe I'm just to apathetic, or maybe I just don't care about what other people choose to do in their free time (as long as it's not hurting anyone).
broham's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/09/2007 19:03
broham
Ok, cool, I think the same way. I have no problem with people making the games...if that's what they choose to do. I, personally, think that they just want the attention and are really doing nothing but glorifying crappy situations. I won't play the games, but if others do...that's their thing, not mine.
denki's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/09/2007 19:19
denki
Juses Chirst, you're all missing the big point about this: Isn't flOw a Jenova Chen game, and not a Kellee Santiago game? She did Cloud. Smersh.
Monte's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/09/2007 22:02
Monte
Heh, haven't read through all the comments, so i'm not sure if it's been mentioned yet...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slamdance_Film_Festival
Apparently, there are now 5 developers who have pulled out of the competition in protest... bringing the total number of finalists down from the orginally annouced 14 to a mere 8...
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