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Wikipedia sent out emails (I got one anyway) claiming they wish to go dark as well. Of course they are asking for donations to do so. I guess their resolve isn't that strong.
This is the kinda protest that will have the biggest effect! THIS is what we need to see. Pulling out of E3 will hit the ESA the hardest. As much as I think Minecraft is a derptastic game, this is a good move on Mojang's part. Also, Red 5 Studios.
I want to know what are all the Gaming Media Outlets doing in protest? Everyone is running stories denouncing SOPA and the ESA for their position. Will Destructiod be Boycotting E3?!? That's what needs to happen. I don't see many developers exhibiting the same balls and boycotting E3, but if the Media Outlets were to boycott E3 that would cause some issues. Without the media there to cover the games there is No show.
Destructiod, you should be first to start the movement. Reach out to other outlets and boycott E3 and the ESA. No Gametrailers, No G4, ect. This will get their attention!
Destructiod, you should be first to start the movement. Reach out to other outlets and boycott E3 and the ESA. No Gametrailers, No G4, ect. This will get their attention!
@Havok: Dtoid won't boycott E3. It would hurt their bottom line too much. GET OFF YOUR FUCKIN' HIGH-HORSE. Oops, I was channeling a bit of Julien Scoville there for a second.
But seriously, I doubt any major blog will boycott E3. That's the industry's superbowl/oscars/grammys. To not attend would mean career-suicide. Sorta.
But seriously, I doubt any major blog will boycott E3. That's the industry's superbowl/oscars/grammys. To not attend would mean career-suicide. Sorta.
@Havok - Learn what a boycott is before throwing the word around so carelessly.
A boycott tends to have a focused, meaningful target and it targets something specific to send a message rather than have a broad number of targets a group wouldn't have a hope in hell of committing to.
Were people to collectively target, say, Capcom or EA and refuse to buy any of their games in the first quarter of this year, would that be something most gamers could do?
But here's the rub - do make the developer of Kingdoms of Amalur a target by association. The people making the actual game had no say in who would be the publisher, the boardroom did. So are you boycotting EA as a whole or just EA's internal efforts.
If I targeted Kingdoms of Amalur or Asura's Wrath, I very much doubt EA or Capcom would get the message that i don't like their support of SOPA, but were I to turn my attentions to perhaps Mass Effect 3 and Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City that would be a different story, especially if many, many other gamers joined in.
Boycotting isn't as simple as saying no to everyone and everything. That's not living on principle, but being a moron.
The point of a boycott is to pick a target and bring it to its knees. A strong social media blackout in response to SOPA is certainly one way of bringing legislators back to reality. Gamers picking a target and sticking to it is another.
A boycott tends to have a focused, meaningful target and it targets something specific to send a message rather than have a broad number of targets a group wouldn't have a hope in hell of committing to.
Were people to collectively target, say, Capcom or EA and refuse to buy any of their games in the first quarter of this year, would that be something most gamers could do?
But here's the rub - do make the developer of Kingdoms of Amalur a target by association. The people making the actual game had no say in who would be the publisher, the boardroom did. So are you boycotting EA as a whole or just EA's internal efforts.
If I targeted Kingdoms of Amalur or Asura's Wrath, I very much doubt EA or Capcom would get the message that i don't like their support of SOPA, but were I to turn my attentions to perhaps Mass Effect 3 and Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City that would be a different story, especially if many, many other gamers joined in.
Boycotting isn't as simple as saying no to everyone and everything. That's not living on principle, but being a moron.
The point of a boycott is to pick a target and bring it to its knees. A strong social media blackout in response to SOPA is certainly one way of bringing legislators back to reality. Gamers picking a target and sticking to it is another.
Not attending E3 would have serious ramifications for any gaming website -- that's when readership grows. It would be particularly devastating to those (like us) who aren't owned by a parent company or kept online via funding.
It's not my call either way, but do realize the amount of risk we'd be taking on by skipping E3. This isn't some obvious decision of good vs. evil.
It's not my call either way, but do realize the amount of risk we'd be taking on by skipping E3. This isn't some obvious decision of good vs. evil.
i hope more companies follow suit.
either way this bullshit law needs to be destroyed PERMANENTLY.
kinda of a shame that developers has to shut down their sites just to engage in these bullshit law.
either way this bullshit law needs to be destroyed PERMANENTLY.
kinda of a shame that developers has to shut down their sites just to engage in these bullshit law.
Wow, that's incredible. Good deal, Notch! I'm almost afraid that world productivity will go up so high that they'll pass it just to ensure productivity STAYS up.
I think that it's great that the DNS blocking is out of SOPA for now (could always come back in conference committee). However, I also think that it's important that we don't lose our resolve now. We have to fight against this, and future versions of this legislation. Even if defeated now, it will likely come back. That's why January 18 is still so important. Keep fighting the good fight, people!
"Not attending E3 would have serious ramifications for any gaming website -- that's when readership grows. It would be particularly devastating to those (like us) who aren't owned by a parent company or kept online via funding.
It's not my call either way, but do realize the amount of risk we'd be taking on by skipping E3. This isn't some obvious decision of good vs. evil."
@Jordan Devore and everyone at Destructoid: If you're going to stand up for something, stand up for something. There is no halfway. Man up or get the fuck out.
It's not my call either way, but do realize the amount of risk we'd be taking on by skipping E3. This isn't some obvious decision of good vs. evil."
@Jordan Devore and everyone at Destructoid: If you're going to stand up for something, stand up for something. There is no halfway. Man up or get the fuck out.
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Yep, thats the kind of response I would expect from anyone these days. No ones got the guts to take a hit to their bank in order to make a point, meaning Dtoid(not trying to finger you out specifically Jordan) doesnt actually give a damn about SOPA.
All any company really cares about is sales/readers(money).
Yep, thats the kind of response I would expect from anyone these days. No ones got the guts to take a hit to their bank in order to make a point, meaning Dtoid(not trying to finger you out specifically Jordan) doesnt actually give a damn about SOPA.
All any company really cares about is sales/readers(money).
A addendum to that, if someone like Google took their site down for a day then THAT would definitely cause some shitstorm. Taking down any videogame site or blog is just going to piss off its users more than make any kind of point to the ESA.
Hooray hyperbole! If it were as simple as standing up for something to the extreme or not standing up at all, why stop at E3? Why not boycott videogames altogether? Why not just shut down the entire site permanently until SOPA/PIPA go away?
Using this logic, I hope for everyone's sake that the products we use are free of conflict minerals, weren't made by people in another country for pennies an hour, don't pollute at all, etc. Otherwise, we all support genocide, unlivable wages, and the destruction of this planet, because you either stand for something or you don't.
That's a valid stance to take, don't get me wrong, but it's not one the majority of us can take because we do not live in a self-sustainable tribe free from modern society. I'm afraid ethical dilemmas are not textbook cases of right and wrong. You draw the line somewhere.
Using this logic, I hope for everyone's sake that the products we use are free of conflict minerals, weren't made by people in another country for pennies an hour, don't pollute at all, etc. Otherwise, we all support genocide, unlivable wages, and the destruction of this planet, because you either stand for something or you don't.
That's a valid stance to take, don't get me wrong, but it's not one the majority of us can take because we do not live in a self-sustainable tribe free from modern society. I'm afraid ethical dilemmas are not textbook cases of right and wrong. You draw the line somewhere.
"Hooray hyperbole! If it were as simple as standing up for something to the extreme or not standing up at all, why stop at E3? Why not boycott videogames altogether? Why not just shut down the entire site permanently until SOPA/PIPA go away?
Using this logic, I hope for everyone's sake that the products we use are free of conflict minerals, weren't made by people in another country for pennies an hour, don't pollute at all, etc. Otherwise, we all support genocide, unlivable wages, and the destruction of this planet, because you either stand for something or you don't.
That's a valid stance to take, don't get me wrong, but it's not one the majority of us can take because we do not live in a self-sustainable tribe free from modern society. I'm afraid ethical dilemmas are not textbook cases of right and wrong. You draw the line somewhere."
I am boycotting video games, and will not be supporting them again until SOPA has either passed or been shot down. If its the latter, I will only be giving my money to the companies/developers who stood against it. As for all your other points, we can talk about other ethical and moral dilemma's till the end of days, I don't care. What i'm talking about right now is SOPA. And yes you draw the line, so pick a side. There is no halfway.
I could give a rats ass about slave labor or poisoning the planet into oblivion. If someone doesn't want to be a slave, guess what? Stand up and fight back. Death is better than servitude. And if the planet blows up, fuck it, humanity sucks. Bring it on.
You want to talk your way around only taking a small amount of the risk? Go for it. If your content with taking half a stance or less that's fine. the only person you have to be okay with is yourself.
Using this logic, I hope for everyone's sake that the products we use are free of conflict minerals, weren't made by people in another country for pennies an hour, don't pollute at all, etc. Otherwise, we all support genocide, unlivable wages, and the destruction of this planet, because you either stand for something or you don't.
That's a valid stance to take, don't get me wrong, but it's not one the majority of us can take because we do not live in a self-sustainable tribe free from modern society. I'm afraid ethical dilemmas are not textbook cases of right and wrong. You draw the line somewhere."
I am boycotting video games, and will not be supporting them again until SOPA has either passed or been shot down. If its the latter, I will only be giving my money to the companies/developers who stood against it. As for all your other points, we can talk about other ethical and moral dilemma's till the end of days, I don't care. What i'm talking about right now is SOPA. And yes you draw the line, so pick a side. There is no halfway.
I could give a rats ass about slave labor or poisoning the planet into oblivion. If someone doesn't want to be a slave, guess what? Stand up and fight back. Death is better than servitude. And if the planet blows up, fuck it, humanity sucks. Bring it on.
You want to talk your way around only taking a small amount of the risk? Go for it. If your content with taking half a stance or less that's fine. the only person you have to be okay with is yourself.
Phobos: Is your career in video games? If not, kindly shut the fuck up. Unless you work in the industry in some capacity, video games are just a hobby for you, and it's easy for you to sacrifice them in protest.
Yes actually it is. My entire life revolves around gaming, from my paycheck to my free time. Which is why I will vehemently stand against this bullshit. So why don't you kindly fuck off? kthnx.
I wish I had phobos black and white view of the world. ignorance is bliss and all that.
"If someone doesn't want to be a slave, guess what? Stand up and fight back."
ROFL!
"If someone doesn't want to be a slave, guess what? Stand up and fight back."
ROFL!
Yeah I've recieved and email from somewhere else asking us to contact wikipedia and other sites in some way to get them to black out in support too. I think we should do that, I don't think it takes but 5 mins to say "please join the blackout and show support to those who use and visit your sites who will be affected by this radical legislation"
While more developers/publishers not supporting this crap is a good thing, I can't help but wonder if any of them have enough courage in their convictions to not release games on platforms where the makers of said platforms do support SOPA. (either tacitly or directly)
We see a lot of encouraging grumbling from game makers but which of them actually plans to put their money where their mouth is?
We see a lot of encouraging grumbling from game makers but which of them actually plans to put their money where their mouth is?
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