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Im going to say... the psp really has bee hitting it stride lately, the games are looking better and better and run smooth as fuck with only 32mb. And even though I would have loved to have seen a 512 model, something tells me that we will have to wait a bit, but will be blown away by some of the vita stuff that will come out 5 years from now.
Wait, so does this mean that the 3G model will have twice the RAM of the Wi-fi model? How the hell is that going to work?
I second @timtheterrible. If the two models are different, there's going to definitely be programs with issues. It certainly means I'll be waiting longer to get one to wait for things to shake out.
What exactly would be the point of even having 512 in the 3G version then? Every single game would have to be designed to function on both versions, which means topping out at 256. The additional 256 in the 3G version would just go to waste.
That interview also says nothing of the two models having different RAM specs. From the sounds of it, they're both going to have 256.
That interview also says nothing of the two models having different RAM specs. From the sounds of it, they're both going to have 256.
@Shane Saiyan
"What exactly would be the point of even having 512 in the 3G version then?"
I was thinking exactly the same think. Developers will only work for the lowest common denominator.
Though, if I remember correctly, the diferent PSP models also have different ammouns of RAM.
I also agree with your last conclusion.
"What exactly would be the point of even having 512 in the 3G version then?"
I was thinking exactly the same think. Developers will only work for the lowest common denominator.
Though, if I remember correctly, the diferent PSP models also have different ammouns of RAM.
I also agree with your last conclusion.
"The newly announced 3DS price drop from $249 to $169 screws that all up, though."
Nah 3DS still blows.
Nah 3DS still blows.
The only thing I could think of us the extent to which you might run multiple programs would be greater on the 3g version, if it does indeed end up with more RAM. But who gives a crap, that's what a Smart Phone is for. I will be getting the $250 PSVita and loving it.
Well, they can RAM it up their asses then. Who'm I kidding, that vita is so sexy I'm going to give it random access for up my ass to create sweet memories
I'll echo the concerns.
I was planning on a wi-fi model, as I have little use for 3G and despise AT&T, but if it has more memory then I'm torn. Games will have to work regardless of model, but I can't shake the feeling that games will perform better on the more expensive model. Maybe the extra 50 dollars is worth it.
Also, since no one has made the other RAM comparison, I'll ask the questions we all need to know.
DOES IT HAVE A HEMI?
I was planning on a wi-fi model, as I have little use for 3G and despise AT&T, but if it has more memory then I'm torn. Games will have to work regardless of model, but I can't shake the feeling that games will perform better on the more expensive model. Maybe the extra 50 dollars is worth it.
Also, since no one has made the other RAM comparison, I'll ask the questions we all need to know.
DOES IT HAVE A HEMI?
@Fuzunga
Well I was going to say something unsubstantiated and stupid, but then I did 3 seconds of research and saw that, yes, if you have a smartphone, you are probably right.
Well I was going to say something unsubstantiated and stupid, but then I did 3 seconds of research and saw that, yes, if you have a smartphone, you are probably right.
@Shane Saiyan
The 3G model might have cellular capabilities as well as other features that'll require more RAM? That's the only thing I can think of. Aside from that, I'm as stumped as you.
The 3G model might have cellular capabilities as well as other features that'll require more RAM? That's the only thing I can think of. Aside from that, I'm as stumped as you.
256 mb: games are designed for that
512 mb: agresive cache like the PSP with 64 mb? if that's true then load times would be even shorter
512 mb: agresive cache like the PSP with 64 mb? if that's true then load times would be even shorter
Well, Sony was shooting for the $250 price point even before the 3DS price was announced, so I'm sure the fact that the 3DS came out at that price to start was a welcome surprise to Sony.
That being said, I'm also guessing Sony didn't expect the 3DS to be sub-$200 now (who would have?) so that might be a bit of an issue.
My only concern with the 256 vs 512 thing is will there be a disparity between games on the $250 Vita and the $300 Vita? Or maybe they'll both be dropped to 256 and this is just some miscommunication.
Even though rationally I know that 256mb is probably more than enough, the techno-whore in me can't help but wonder if the more expensive Vita with possibly more RAM would give me better performance...
That being said, I'm also guessing Sony didn't expect the 3DS to be sub-$200 now (who would have?) so that might be a bit of an issue.
My only concern with the 256 vs 512 thing is will there be a disparity between games on the $250 Vita and the $300 Vita? Or maybe they'll both be dropped to 256 and this is just some miscommunication.
Even though rationally I know that 256mb is probably more than enough, the techno-whore in me can't help but wonder if the more expensive Vita with possibly more RAM would give me better performance...
Who said it had 512 in the first place?
Either way 256MB RAM with a 4 core processor sounds pretty damn powerful to me for a handheld..
I'll still be picking it up day one.
Either way 256MB RAM with a 4 core processor sounds pretty damn powerful to me for a handheld..
I'll still be picking it up day one.
I knew this was going to happen. When they were showing the specs at e3 I was watching and thinking that this thing was really powerfull and the price was reasonable. Once you start downgrading the hardware to meet the selling point I think you are in trouble. So all the developers who have ben pushing the 512 memory now have to recode the games to accomodate the 256. How many games are going to be delayed from launch?
To be fair, I'm sure the homebrew community is going to be more pleased with more RAM. You can do cute things like take memory states to reduce loading times when simulating multitasking, but old iPhones couldn't multitask due to a lack of RAM. Or at least I believe it was the bottleneck, I don't actually have an iPhone or invest a lot of effort researching things I don't have or plan to have. I'm a lazy nerd.
When it comes down to brass tacks, it's the games that matter, not the fucking system specs. This shit is for fanboys.
There is nothing at all in the linked article about the two versions of the Vita have different amounts of RAM. It's a non-issue.
This is a much more important quote, anyway: “And the system’s battery life, by the way, is really good. You’d think with all the processing power that it would drain fast, but it’s fantastic”.
This is a much more important quote, anyway: “And the system’s battery life, by the way, is really good. You’d think with all the processing power that it would drain fast, but it’s fantastic”.
The quote does not back up the RAM cut rumor, although it is possible. 512 MB of RAM is still a constraint.
Missing ram will be missed.
What a shame they continue to reduce one of the least expensive components in a console.
What a shame they continue to reduce one of the least expensive components in a console.
This isn't the end of the world. 256MB is the same amount of RAM the PS3 has.
I also doubt the two models will have different amounts of RAM. It doesn't make much sense.
I also doubt the two models will have different amounts of RAM. It doesn't make much sense.
It's double the RAM of the 3DS, so I guess it's okay for me.
Though now with the price decrease of the latter I think I'll wait before buying a Vita...
Though now with the price decrease of the latter I think I'll wait before buying a Vita...
I'm pretty sure that the ps3 has only 256mb and it does a decent but with it... I may be thinking of graphics memory, though.
Don't forget the Vita uses cartridges so rom memory supplements its normal memory and should be fast access. There is no reason why the Vita will be limited by 256 memory when its using rom cartridges or flash memory storage. 360 and PS3 are reliant on optical drives with rubbish access times.
In short: IT WILL NOT AFFECT THE GAMES QUALITY, but it might hinder the multitasking ability of the os.
In short: IT WILL NOT AFFECT THE GAMES QUALITY, but it might hinder the multitasking ability of the os.
what?! no hateful comments in here? unbelievable! the 3ds gets a pricecut, and is lambasted, while the vita get a hardware downgrade and no one seems to have a problem. hmmmm
@Afrit
"In short: IT WILL NOT AFFECT THE GAMES QUALITY"
Actually, it will, because you can't write into a ROM chip, and I doubt it will have access times comparable to high speed RAM.
AND data on the ROM will probably be compressed, and will need RAM space to exist uncompressed.
It would be worse with optical media, sure, but that doesn't mean having twice the RAM wouldn't affect performance.
"In short: IT WILL NOT AFFECT THE GAMES QUALITY"
Actually, it will, because you can't write into a ROM chip, and I doubt it will have access times comparable to high speed RAM.
AND data on the ROM will probably be compressed, and will need RAM space to exist uncompressed.
It would be worse with optical media, sure, but that doesn't mean having twice the RAM wouldn't affect performance.
ricochetguro - The PS3 does however run on Rambus' XDR DRAM, which is faster than most stuff (or was considerably faster at the time), still it came at a price.
Also for the RAM cut,don't devkits for consoles/handhelds generally come with double the amounts of RAM for debugging purposes? Tell me if I'm wrong but I remember reading something like that somewhere before.
Also for the RAM cut,don't devkits for consoles/handhelds generally come with double the amounts of RAM for debugging purposes? Tell me if I'm wrong but I remember reading something like that somewhere before.
"It's actually good for developers to work under constraint..."
If only this sentiment was echoed through all developers, specifically on the consoles....
If only this sentiment was echoed through all developers, specifically on the consoles....
@Cryotek
PS3 Memory:
256MB XDR Main RAM @3.2GHz
256MB GDDR3 VRAM @700MHz
It at least compensates with speed
PS3 Memory:
256MB XDR Main RAM @3.2GHz
256MB GDDR3 VRAM @700MHz
It at least compensates with speed
@El Conrado:
oh, Sony new proprietary game medium is not technically ROM, probably a flash based cause it contain a writeable space will be reserved for save data, patches & DLC.
you're right data will be comprised but I don't see that of an issue with efficient memory management. don't forget vita will retain the VRAM.
Anyway, I withdraw my argument and I will wait for more official updates on the matter.
cause you can't "believe everything you read on the Internet."
http://twitter.com/#!/yosp/status/74220711807418368
oh, Sony new proprietary game medium is not technically ROM, probably a flash based cause it contain a writeable space will be reserved for save data, patches & DLC.
you're right data will be comprised but I don't see that of an issue with efficient memory management. don't forget vita will retain the VRAM.
Anyway, I withdraw my argument and I will wait for more official updates on the matter.
cause you can't "believe everything you read on the Internet."
http://twitter.com/#!/yosp/status/74220711807418368
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