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25 hours is fucking plenty. Anybody not happy with that needs their head examined.
Looking very forward to it. Gameplay looks solid from the snippets we've seen, and if they manage to pull off a cool story that will be a plus.
Looking very forward to it. Gameplay looks solid from the snippets we've seen, and if they manage to pull off a cool story that will be a plus.
25 hours will be fine so long as after 6 I'm bored and feel like I've already gotten everything I can out of the experience.
Very few things annoy my more as a gamer than when a dev says, "Oi! Look at this! We have 20,594,394,184,193 hours of gameplay for you!" when you realize it's all fetch quests, escort missions and backtracking. Part of the reasons game are so long these days is because it just takes that damn long to go from point A to point B, things to do notwithstanding. Then when it is time to do something, you just don't care.
Very few things annoy my more as a gamer than when a dev says, "Oi! Look at this! We have 20,594,394,184,193 hours of gameplay for you!" when you realize it's all fetch quests, escort missions and backtracking. Part of the reasons game are so long these days is because it just takes that damn long to go from point A to point B, things to do notwithstanding. Then when it is time to do something, you just don't care.
I'd put good money on this being a hit, both critical and commerically. I'm surprised you're not more excited for it Jim. Everything released so far about this game has been incredible, from the blade runner -esque trailers to this news of a meaty adventure. RDR showed us just how immersive and amazing open world games can be, they can only get better with good studios behind them.
I love it when game length surprises me...I think I was well over 30 hrs on okami..did a lot of exploring tho..I also have like 40 on monster hunter tri and I'm not done with the offline stuff...I spend alotta time farming monsters and gathering..I also suck pretty bad so that has a lot to do with it I'm sure
PC gamers will bitch no matter what, cuz it was "dumbed down" for consoles.
But its looking to be a good game that will do well, I think.
Also, considering one play through can be rather different from the next depending upon how you play the scenarios, 25 hours the first time is more than enough.
But its looking to be a good game that will do well, I think.
Also, considering one play through can be rather different from the next depending upon how you play the scenarios, 25 hours the first time is more than enough.
I won't bitch that it's a dumbed down for consoles, BUT it looks dumbed down in general from the original - but that's a product of the times.
However, the presentation will probably be killer and even it out. I hope it's as good as it looks - and 25 hours is solid, as the Deus Ex series is meant for multiple playthroughs. At least...I hope!
However, the presentation will probably be killer and even it out. I hope it's as good as it looks - and 25 hours is solid, as the Deus Ex series is meant for multiple playthroughs. At least...I hope!
Back in the day 25 hours would have been nothing, but what with graphics reaching the standard they are at nowadays, (especially this game, from what i've seen so far) its a surprisingly long time, though nothing special. While games like modern warfare 2 were easily beaten in 2 hours plus, 90% of their content was the multiplayer aspect, which for someone like me isnt too exciting. For a game that has no multiplayer, i expect a decent 20+ hours at least to be honest, but that isnt gonna happen now is it?
Bioshock is the only single player FPS I've ever bought for my 360. The other shooters I've rented and never played again. I'll buy CoD, Halo, Battlefield, and such but those single player campaigns are only a bonus, because the multiplayer is the main reason why I buy those games.
All I'm saying is that I hope Deus Ex:HE is good enough to warrant a full purchase.
All I'm saying is that I hope Deus Ex:HE is good enough to warrant a full purchase.
That's sounds lovely.
What's even better is I've never played the original, so I won't have to battle nostalgia the entire time!
What's even better is I've never played the original, so I won't have to battle nostalgia the entire time!
It's sad that in this day in age, where 2 hour games retail for 60 bucks, a 25-hour campaign is considered "good news." This shouldn't be news. This should be expected.
25 hours is plenty. There are so many games I want to play I can't afford a longer game. It's not like when I was younger and I would get one game at a time and play the hell out of that one game. I just got Demon's Souls and it's already sucking the life out of me.
I don't think this game is going to sort of obsessive-compulsive streamlining that DW:IW had (and ME2 had, for that matter). It will be more of a shooter than an RPG this time out, but only because it was kinda silly to do a headshot in the original and it only do a set about of damage instead or killing or at least scoring a knock-out.
I can pretend it just grazed the guy's temple, but let it count for something.
I always prefer the non-lethal approach in these types of games, though. Running and gunning is only one way of going about things, which is what makes DX refreshing.
I can pretend it just grazed the guy's temple, but let it count for something.
I always prefer the non-lethal approach in these types of games, though. Running and gunning is only one way of going about things, which is what makes DX refreshing.
25 seems like a pretty solid number. Low for an RPG, high for a shooter. Unlike some though, I'm not complaining about the length. I have no where near as much time to play games as I used to, and while I will sink dozens of hours into some games, I like being able to experience a game fully in a reasonable time. 25 hours seems good to me.
First of all, anything over 5 hours gives a game a higher cost-to-time-of-entertainment ratio than pretty much any other form of digital media (save for maybe an ebook?), so it's surely a bit immature when gamers bitch about this.
Second of all, I hope that the time it takes testers to play a game isn't used a benchmark number for a game's length, as it'd hardly be a good comparison for a "typical experience."
Third, when is it useful for a dev to speculate on how long a game will take their consumers to complete? If they guessimate too long, it looks like they intentionally inflated it: queue the crybabies. If they guessimate too short, they risk short-selling the value to those who care before release -- why do it at all?
Devs should shut up about it and bloggers should stop putting gas on the fire.
Second of all, I hope that the time it takes testers to play a game isn't used a benchmark number for a game's length, as it'd hardly be a good comparison for a "typical experience."
Third, when is it useful for a dev to speculate on how long a game will take their consumers to complete? If they guessimate too long, it looks like they intentionally inflated it: queue the crybabies. If they guessimate too short, they risk short-selling the value to those who care before release -- why do it at all?
Devs should shut up about it and bloggers should stop putting gas on the fire.
25 hours is a sweet spot for me. It's enough to make me feel like 'holy shit, this game is huge' without the typical 60+ hour RPG feeling of 'holy shit, is this all really necessary?'
I need this game now, I'm tired of waiting. It's been too long since I've had a Deus Ex experience, and the only one I can realistically play at the moment is the PS2 version. Which...well, blows.
I need this game now, I'm tired of waiting. It's been too long since I've had a Deus Ex experience, and the only one I can realistically play at the moment is the PS2 version. Which...well, blows.
Considering I sunk 60+ hours into the first one, 25 is looking kinda slim. We'll see how replays, side quests, etc. add to it.
I'm super psyched for this game. 25 hours sounds good for a game like this, long enough to warrant buying for naught but a single playthrough, but short enough that I can justify playing it three or four times.
i really am looking forward to this. Deus Ex was one of the best games ever made and the sequel sucked donkey balls. So while im kindof expecting this to be about fight scenes (a la Bourne series) rather than politics.
I loved the political angle of the original. and the fact that its story ran with all of the current real life 'conspiracies' (The trilaterals and govt created viruses)
and with 25 hour game, if its good and has multiple solutions and endings like the 1st it will have relatively high replay value
I loved the political angle of the original. and the fact that its story ran with all of the current real life 'conspiracies' (The trilaterals and govt created viruses)
and with 25 hour game, if its good and has multiple solutions and endings like the 1st it will have relatively high replay value
i really am looking forward to this. Deus Ex was one of the best games ever made and the sequel sucked donkey balls. So while im kindof expecting this to be about fight scenes (a la Bourne series) rather than politics im still hoping that it just allows you to run and gun, or go stealth, or plan political manipulations. Those are what makes RPG elements so cool.
I loved the political angle of the original. and the fact that its story ran with all of the current real life 'conspiracies' (The trilaterals and govt created viruses)
and with a 25 hour game, if its good and has multiple solutions and endings like the 1st it will have relatively high replay value
I loved the political angle of the original. and the fact that its story ran with all of the current real life 'conspiracies' (The trilaterals and govt created viruses)
and with a 25 hour game, if its good and has multiple solutions and endings like the 1st it will have relatively high replay value
Looks like a game I would be more then happy to buy on day one, havent played the first one so I wont have to wear rose tinted glasses while playing as well :D
Game length alone is too abstract a concept to judge a game on. Really, what's more important is whether the gameplay and writing warrant spending that long playing the game. For a RPG/FPS, 25 hours is a good amount of time to explore the world and warrant an experience system before the shooting mechanics become stale.
Optimistic. I could care less about the silly QTE stealth killing and regenerating health, as long as it has the multi path (literal and figurative) level design and branching plot, I'm happy. And from all we've heard, it does in fact have those things.
Girls are obsessed with penis length and love hearing about how long it is. With that in mind, I present to you claims from Eidos Montreal that their penisses will be over 25cm in lenth.
But srsly, good news. Hate short games you paid full price for.
But srsly, good news. Hate short games you paid full price for.
i dont care how long a game should take, as long as im having fun playing it, i will stick with it.
how long was the campaign for RDR supposed to be? cause technically mine lasted 150 hours before i decided to do the last mission.
shit my game of just cause 2 is at 150+ hours and ive done about 20% of the actual story missions.
how long was the campaign for RDR supposed to be? cause technically mine lasted 150 hours before i decided to do the last mission.
shit my game of just cause 2 is at 150+ hours and ive done about 20% of the actual story missions.
I've never played any of the games in the series, but after watching the trailers and the gameplay trailer, I must say that I'm excited for Human Revolution. The whole semi-cyberpunk aesthetic is really doing it for me.
It took me just over 20 hours to beat the first Deus Ex my first time around, so this sounds probably about right. I just hope the replay value is up to snuff.
I remember the first game being something like 40 hours the first time you played it and then dropping dramatically in length the second time. Regardless, it was fun to replay, so even if this isn't as long as the first game, it's still gonna have tons to do after.
I'll take a 25 or 30 hour game like with excellent replay value like Mass Effect 2 over a game that will take me 50 hours to beat but that will never get played again like Oblivion. At 25 hours Deus Ex HR is right in my sweet spot.
Can't wait for this. Loved the first one, haven't played the second, but I'm REALLY looking forward to this :D
This is one of my most wanted games for 2011.
First time i saw the trailer they released it gave me goosebumps and i had to go out and buy Blade Runner on blu-ray.
If it plays as differently as they claim, and its really 25 hours long then its 25 times three fo my part.
Once as stealth, once as action and once as just talking through the game. Its gonna be amazing.
Please, please do not fail me Deus Ex, like Metro 2033 did ;)
First time i saw the trailer they released it gave me goosebumps and i had to go out and buy Blade Runner on blu-ray.
If it plays as differently as they claim, and its really 25 hours long then its 25 times three fo my part.
Once as stealth, once as action and once as just talking through the game. Its gonna be amazing.
Please, please do not fail me Deus Ex, like Metro 2033 did ;)
The fact that Portal is one of my favorite games of the last several years should tell you what I think about game length: games should take as long as they need, and no longer. More is not necessarily better.
I really want this game to be good (and what I've seen has looked good), but I fear that it will be bad.
I really want this game to be good (and what I've seen has looked good), but I fear that it will be bad.
Then I'll probably take more. Everyone said ME2 was about 30 hours, and I took damn near 50. Like ME2, Deus Ex is a game worthy of stopping to smell all the roses.
I used to care a lot more about the hour-stats of games, but then I thought back and realized that some of my favorite games are ones that can be easily completed in one sitting. Now, I'm more into how much potential the game has for replaying and really getting into it. It makes me a bit sad that shmups and other 'traditional' and shorter types of games are difficult to sell now as full retail experiences, because people don't understand that they're meant to be replayed and really dug into, that the experience is more dependent on the rich potential content players can explore than what's simply handed to them. People complain about pricing on these games, but games were priced roughly the same decades ago as they are now, and there's no reason that type of experience should be any worse now than then. Anyway, I guess my point is it's worth it if the game can offer a creative and affecting experience, no matter how long the main story takes, which sounds like it should be common sense, heheh...
The game should have been released as a 16-bit downloadable title on the Virtual Console,XBLA and PSN instead of going all la-dee-da ultra modern on us. Without all of the well-rendered expressive characters with their high polygon counts running around in complex environments with all of their yakkity-yak and wacky sax and such,the game could have easily spanned for pentuple the 25 hour run time mentioned here. Drop the graphics altogether and make Deus Ex:Human Revolution into a text-based game and the adventure could have gone on for hundreds of thousands of pages.
Squeenix has all the wrong priorities these days.
Squeenix has all the wrong priorities these days.
Believe me Jim, there are dozens all ready screaming mad. The Edios Forums is perhaps the worst place to try and spread optimism at. A tiny ounce of information that changes from the original Deus Ex, people are flipping out and writing (incorrect) essays about how it goes against the spirit of the first game. Christ... They need to calm down and know that, even if this doesn't blow past expectations, it's an above average game with years of explicit detail put into it. Be proud they care even that much.
As long as it doesn't bore then I don't care how long.
I still play DEx at least once a year, that is coming in at a couple of hundred hours of play time.
Have to agree with @BiggyP, I really wanted to love Metro 2033.
I still play DEx at least once a year, that is coming in at a couple of hundred hours of play time.
Have to agree with @BiggyP, I really wanted to love Metro 2033.
25 hours is really not a long time for an RPG. Assassin's Creed 2 took longer to beat than that.
It's on the short side for that genre, but it will be adequate.
It's on the short side for that genre, but it will be adequate.
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