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I really struggled to get into Deus Ex. Seemed like a good game, but after about 5 hours I was bored as fuck.
Prolly gonna trade it in.
i think there might be something wrong with me.
Prolly gonna trade it in.
i think there might be something wrong with me.
Next thing you know there'll be in-game Gamestop billboards saying "HERE'S WHAT YOU'RE MISSING SINCE YOU DIDN'T PREORDER" in Prototype 2 oh wai.....
To be fair, I do now feel more immersed in a dystopian cyberpunk future ruled by mega-corporations than ever before.
It's really out of place to have modern day ads 20 years into the future.
Granted, Star Wars has been changed and augmented so much its barely the same as it was 30 years ago too.
Granted, Star Wars has been changed and augmented so much its barely the same as it was 30 years ago too.
I'm sure that the addition of advertising is a necessity to combat .... umm .... piracy?
Must be piracy.... that seems to be the go to answer for just about everything.
Must be piracy.... that seems to be the go to answer for just about everything.
Sometimes it's a great thing! Heck, I'd never heard of this Verizon cellphone service until I played Alan Wake. Now Imma talk on the cells phones!
What a crock of shit. I buy the game, I may buy DLC, and now they are stuffing ads into a game where it is just a bold face advertisement? This is pretty tasteless.
I don't mind billboards for real world products in open world games and this where it does make a degree of sense, but this is beyond the pale.
I don't mind billboards for real world products in open world games and this where it does make a degree of sense, but this is beyond the pale.
If this doesn't add an option to ask Latitia what she thinks of Jar Jar Binks, they're missing a golden hued opportunity.
@Sexualchocolate Trading in a video game? Yea there is SOMETHING wrong with you.
I don't really care about in-game adds as long as its relevant to my nerdy interests. At any rate I'm just going to remove them manually anyway and when you can't do that just replace them.
I don't really care about in-game adds as long as its relevant to my nerdy interests. At any rate I'm just going to remove them manually anyway and when you can't do that just replace them.
"I never asked for this... if you want to make enemies, try to change something (replace old Vader for Hayden Christensen)... this is a time of great innovation and technological advancement, but it's also a time of chaos and conspiracy (did Han shoot first?)... I don't even know which side I'm on....
**Breaking news: riots continues in the streets with protesters in front of LucasArt studios, the world's leader in films augmentation**
- These people, they are like Phantom Menace, always hiding behind graphics and over-choreographed lightsaber duels...
I never had a choice of what happened to me.
- How are you feeling about JarJar, Adam? The body may heal, but the mind is not always so resilient.
Corporations have more power than the fans, everyone is fighting for power, for control...
- I'll take you to HELL! You'll never find the original version of Star Wars: A new hope!
...I'll never stop looking."
**Breaking news: riots continues in the streets with protesters in front of LucasArt studios, the world's leader in films augmentation**
- These people, they are like Phantom Menace, always hiding behind graphics and over-choreographed lightsaber duels...
I never had a choice of what happened to me.
- How are you feeling about JarJar, Adam? The body may heal, but the mind is not always so resilient.
Corporations have more power than the fans, everyone is fighting for power, for control...
- I'll take you to HELL! You'll never find the original version of Star Wars: A new hope!
...I'll never stop looking."
Guys... really? Is this even worth the effort of bitching about? I mean seriously, what the actual fuck? It's a loading screen. They could plaster goatse all over it and it wouldn't change the experience of the game.
Surely there's better things to get upset over.
Surely there's better things to get upset over.
@Tristrix Yea, I don't see it as a the biggest deal in the world. It's ads. I mean it does suck but it doesn't actually hinder my game, so yea.
@tristix
PRECEDENTS. Starts with a small ad in the corner and next thing you know you're doing sidequests with Jar Jar.
PRECEDENTS. Starts with a small ad in the corner and next thing you know you're doing sidequests with Jar Jar.
@Tristrix: Ads are normally used to support free games or TV shows since they don't have any means of direct revenue, but when you charge full price for a game it's bullshit. In some games it makes sense like in a hockey game but in a futuristic shooter it doesn't. Sure it doesn't change the game but it removes you from the atmosphere. Imagine buying a TV series boxset but the ads are still there.
Can we augment George Lucas so he can actally make GOOD Star Wars film again? Or at least so he'll stop raping the original trilogy by putting in unnecessary changes?
@Xelotath
No sir, that comparison doesn't hold at all. The major mitigating difference is that the ads in Deus Ex don't delay your experience at all the way commercials on a tv show will. Two minutes out of every 10 is devoted entirely to ads on a tv show. In Deus Ex, it's just a little picture in the corner of a delay you already had in the first place.
Seriously. Not worth the calories you and I are burning typing about it.
No sir, that comparison doesn't hold at all. The major mitigating difference is that the ads in Deus Ex don't delay your experience at all the way commercials on a tv show will. Two minutes out of every 10 is devoted entirely to ads on a tv show. In Deus Ex, it's just a little picture in the corner of a delay you already had in the first place.
Seriously. Not worth the calories you and I are burning typing about it.
@Tristrix
Just remember when Cable first started there were no commercials since it was a paid service. Then they started adding "limited" commercials and no one really complained.
Now we can all enjoy our paid cable with the same amount of commercials as free broadcast television.
The same thing started to happen on Satellite radio but people put their foot down. It probably hasn't stopped commercials on Satellite radio but it has probably slowed it down a good few years.
Is it a big deal now... not so much but all big deals typically start off as a series of insubstantial deals that add up.
Just remember when Cable first started there were no commercials since it was a paid service. Then they started adding "limited" commercials and no one really complained.
Now we can all enjoy our paid cable with the same amount of commercials as free broadcast television.
The same thing started to happen on Satellite radio but people put their foot down. It probably hasn't stopped commercials on Satellite radio but it has probably slowed it down a good few years.
Is it a big deal now... not so much but all big deals typically start off as a series of insubstantial deals that add up.
Ads that work within a context of a game (though I'd rather see ad parodies like GTA has always done with billboards throughout their games) are fine with me since they rarely seem all that intrusive, though a bit sleazy.
But ads put in this fashion is something I'd only rather see if it meant that the cost of the release was lowered because of the sponsorship ameliorating costs. Kind of like how you don't pay for basic network TV because advertising covers that.
But ads put in this fashion is something I'd only rather see if it meant that the cost of the release was lowered because of the sponsorship ameliorating costs. Kind of like how you don't pay for basic network TV because advertising covers that.
@ Sexualchocolate Thank you! I'm glad I'm not the only one. I'm just so glad I was able to sell it through Glyde for half price, at least.
I found the characters extremely boring, especially the protagonist. Also, since I'm a completionist, I felt compelled to hack every single door and computer for XP, which means likely thousands of times. The production is pretty shit (Don't believe me? Throw a gas grenade at a group of enemies and watch them all start to fall down in a Thriller-esque, identical choreography) and the takedowns got old very quickly. As far as the story goes, I just kept waiting for something interesting to finally happen, and as soon as it did, the game was over.
I have no regrets in selling this and putting the money toward Dark Souls.
I found the characters extremely boring, especially the protagonist. Also, since I'm a completionist, I felt compelled to hack every single door and computer for XP, which means likely thousands of times. The production is pretty shit (Don't believe me? Throw a gas grenade at a group of enemies and watch them all start to fall down in a Thriller-esque, identical choreography) and the takedowns got old very quickly. As far as the story goes, I just kept waiting for something interesting to finally happen, and as soon as it did, the game was over.
I have no regrets in selling this and putting the money toward Dark Souls.
I knew someday theyd put ads in loading screens
Maybe if the game was free Id be fine with it but its inexcusable
Maybe if the game was free Id be fine with it but its inexcusable
i still cant believe advertising companies think this shit works.
i dont know about most of you , but i have never seen a commercial for something(in a video game or other media) and then wanted to buy it right after. NEVER. now i can see why a company would put ads in a game, to make money from the company with the ads. but i really dont see this shit bringing in money for the advertised product.
like some kid is playing DE:HR and is like "oh shit you mean starwars is on BR now? mom go buy me this right now. i can pause my game and go buy this drek asap!"
i dont know about most of you , but i have never seen a commercial for something(in a video game or other media) and then wanted to buy it right after. NEVER. now i can see why a company would put ads in a game, to make money from the company with the ads. but i really dont see this shit bringing in money for the advertised product.
like some kid is playing DE:HR and is like "oh shit you mean starwars is on BR now? mom go buy me this right now. i can pause my game and go buy this drek asap!"
anyone remember when wipeout PSN had ads patched into it? and how the fans created an uproar, then they took them out?
when is The Greatest Game Ever Sold: brought to you by Carl's Jr. coming out?
when is The Greatest Game Ever Sold: brought to you by Carl's Jr. coming out?
@Scuffles - As Tristrix already stated, it's not a valid comparison. The loading screen was already there, they're simply pasting in an image that advertises a product. Big fuckin whoop. No additional delays, no valid comparison to any other medium. Your rabble-rouser reflex action needs to be dialed-down a bit.
Besides, the PC version's community will have this "patched" back out in a heartbeat, for anyone who cares enough to make use of it.
Besides, the PC version's community will have this "patched" back out in a heartbeat, for anyone who cares enough to make use of it.
@fetusmilk - This. I don't think the ad agencies have been properly educated on the audience of video games, yet. It's not surprising, though, when you consider that this practice has worked for decades with more mainstream audiences.
The reason that games don't have modified ads that fit the theme of the game is because product owners are very touchy about the image and appearance of their products. They don't want it altered, they don't want it modified. They have a look and an image, and they want to stick to it completely. Because of this, they are very reluctant to provide the game with an ad that fits (like future science fictiony ads).
McDonalds did it in 5th Element, but you will notice the logo and everything still looked exactly the same as current day.
McDonalds did it in 5th Element, but you will notice the logo and everything still looked exactly the same as current day.
Ads never hurt no one. Don't see what the whole bellyaching is all about.
And sexychoc, there's nothing wrong with you. You just have bad tastes in games, old bean :-p
And sexychoc, there's nothing wrong with you. You just have bad tastes in games, old bean :-p
The ads don't come with the patch, Jim. I'm getting them on my PS3 now and there's been no patch for the consoles. Fuck you, Eidos.
@DasPooch
What part of the whole little things that add up didn't you glean from that? You do know they have adages like "give them an inch and they will take a mile" for a reason, right? This represents little more than a foothold, insubstantial by itself but important to the whole.
But thank you for reassuring me that its an invalid comparison and history never repeats itself... I was actually almost worried that within 5 years we would all be subjected to full commercials during the loading screens and there is no way that will ever happen.
PS enjoy your full commercials....
What part of the whole little things that add up didn't you glean from that? You do know they have adages like "give them an inch and they will take a mile" for a reason, right? This represents little more than a foothold, insubstantial by itself but important to the whole.
But thank you for reassuring me that its an invalid comparison and history never repeats itself... I was actually almost worried that within 5 years we would all be subjected to full commercials during the loading screens and there is no way that will ever happen.
PS enjoy your full commercials....
@Tristix
In ways I find it worse
Atleast with DVDS the ads are separate
They dont happen during the context, ripping you out of the atmosphere
Im never gonna buy the star wars pack so why do I have to stare at an ad for it every time the game loads? What if you already have it? Talk about annoying
In ways I find it worse
Atleast with DVDS the ads are separate
They dont happen during the context, ripping you out of the atmosphere
Im never gonna buy the star wars pack so why do I have to stare at an ad for it every time the game loads? What if you already have it? Talk about annoying
@Scuffles - Oh noes, I added to the butthurt of someone with an extreme paranoia of anything corporate. You are overreacting. Find something worthwhile to spend your energy on.
@Scuffles - PS: If you think there will be full commercials during loading screens in 5 years, you are fucking insane. In-game ads haven't gone past the occasional in-game billboard or an image in a loading screen (like in this case) for over 10 years.
@Adam
Ok, I can respect that. Ineffectual? Fine. Annoying? Fine. I'm just personally a little burned out on the typical internet gamer culture of COMPLAIN ABOUT ALL THE THINGS!!!
It's like some people just feed on anger and misery. It's getting old.
Ok, I can respect that. Ineffectual? Fine. Annoying? Fine. I'm just personally a little burned out on the typical internet gamer culture of COMPLAIN ABOUT ALL THE THINGS!!!
It's like some people just feed on anger and misery. It's getting old.
@Scuffles
Totally inclined to agree with your logic on this. Sure, it may be minor NOW, but the simple fact is corporations like to make money, and if this is even REMOTELY successful in boosting sales, they are going to want to do it more and more and on a bigger scale. As long as the developers also want money enough to allow the ads they will just get more prevalent. Hell, if it drove the price of games down for little ads like this, maybe it wouldn't suck as much, but paying 60 dollars and then having to stare at it is a little ridiculous. Corporations are successful because they take advantage where advantage is given.
Totally inclined to agree with your logic on this. Sure, it may be minor NOW, but the simple fact is corporations like to make money, and if this is even REMOTELY successful in boosting sales, they are going to want to do it more and more and on a bigger scale. As long as the developers also want money enough to allow the ads they will just get more prevalent. Hell, if it drove the price of games down for little ads like this, maybe it wouldn't suck as much, but paying 60 dollars and then having to stare at it is a little ridiculous. Corporations are successful because they take advantage where advantage is given.
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