Well I guess it's all but confirmed that Deus Ex 3 will suck.

one of the original team is working on the game, and many of the makers of Deus Ex 3 have strong backgrounds in action games, but not much (if any) RPG experience. For example, lead game designer Jean-Francois Dugas has previously worked on the Far Cry: Instinct, and Francois Lapikas, senior game designer, is coming from the Tom Clany's Splinter Cell series. Furthermore, senior level designer Stephan Carmignani is best known for his work on the third-person shooter Dead to Rights 2.


RIP DEUS EX FRANCHISE

NONE*

This is up there with the Facebreaker douche bag talking shit about Punch Out.

This is not a reassuring news post.

Oh, rose colored glasses.

Deus Ex WAS slow, which was both good and bad to their own points. There's no doubt that people will clamor for more action than Warren Spector's angel gave us. On the other end of the spectrum, I don't want an all out run-and-gun FPS, either.

Have we SEEN gameplay? No. Don't snap to a judgement based upon one stupid sentence.

Haha, it had already been confirmed that Deus Ex 3 would be more 'accessible' (shit). Now we've got this retard saying that all games need loads of action and explosive set pieces (I guarantee that's what he means by memorable and exciting moments). Sometimes subtelty and tension go a lot further than balls to the wall non-stop action.

I lost interest in Deus Ex as a franchise after the second one, so keep shitting on it all you want I won't be buying any more of them.

Fucking mainstream.

Holy hell, this is why i hate the internet. Barely anyone thinks before they comment. Menelaus is the ONLY person here to make an intelligent comment.

No one has seen anything of the game. I was barely aware of its existance (only enough that seeing an article on it doesnt surprise me). Making a comment like this means very little at this point.

I never played the Deus Ex games, so i wont comment on this guy thinking the original was 'slow'. However, exiciting, memorable moments are the reason i play games, so more is never a bad thing. All you morons must play a lot of boring games if you think exciting and memorable is limited to run and gun fps.

And yeah, god help them if they screw this up. This kind of shitstorm would be entirely validated.

Are you kidding me? That game had some of the most memorable moments of any game I've ever played? Denton's brother, the Greys, Gunther, getting captured. That was a hell of a game, where you could be stealthy or go blazing in. The formula is perfect, just make a new story with new locations/weapons.

Console versions should never be dumbed down. They don't need to be. We're big boys. We can handle it.

Console versions are dumbed down because of the controls.
With a bit of effort, you could fit the game around the control limitations :(

@Sharpless:
There are countless complex games on consoles and I don't really get where this fucking trend came from, but it needs to stop. The problem isn't the gamers, but the publishers. :/

"Dumbing down" a console iteration of a PC franchise includes narrowing the amount of buttons required to operate the game, and cutting the game world into smaller areas in order to accommodate for the inferior power of consoles in relation to PCs. "Dumbing down" doesn't necessarily mean the game itself has been altered to appeal to the "console gamer", who one would believe to be different than the "PC gamer". Of course, with the limitations placed on controls and areas, limitations on the game and gameplay become apparent and may be perceived to be the intent of the entire dumbing down process. Frequently, however, I believe this is merely a side-effect, and not the ultimate goal. Invisible War is a perfect example, as nothing (outside of the RPG points) was lost from the original, but the UI and area sizes were drastically altered in order to accommodate for the console's limited control scheme and hardware, respectively.

In this way, I think the man speaking is being naive about the consolization process, or is at least trying to change the definition of "consolization" so that he can color what he is doing to make the game function on a console as being a superior decision over those that are being made by other "consolizing" developers. What this means is that we may end up with a game that wasn't necessarily "consolized", but was designed from the ground up with the limitations of the console in mind. A perfect example of this, of course, would be Invisible War.

And on an aside: To say that Deus Ex was "kind of slow" is something of an obvious observation. The game is absolutely loaded with dialogue and exploration, which are slow on the scale of videogames by their very definition. If he is suggesting that the game will not be as "slow" as Deus Ex, I'm taking this to mean he is suggesting there will be less dialogue and exploration. If he is also saying that there were few memorable moments in this, the game filled with the absolute most memorable moments I have EVER EXPERIENCED IN A VIDEOGAME, then I take this to mean he doesn't consider anything with a dialogue tree "memorable".

Considering he is not interested in dialogue trees, exploration, and consider neither to be "memorable", it is no wonder that he never experienced what I consider to be the most memorable sequence in any videogame: The conversation with the AI known as Morpheus. You needn't have played the game to appreciate this sequence, one of the most interesting conversations in any game. You can view it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COwfIhvRtNw

I hate it too. Now you see why the Fallout fans are so ardent. They got f*cked over about 4 times now.

Deus Ex fans are getting ready for seconds.

well that's Goddamn depressing