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12:00 PM on 03.15.2010   |   Jim Sterling

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Top ten lists. Everybody likes to dump on them, but everybody secretly loves them. They're controversial, they're interesting, and they're just damn easy to read. Of course, they lack plenty in the originality department, but who cares about that when you're too busy arguing about how Pandemonium should have been put above Fully Loaded?

With that in mind, we decided to start doing the same old top ten lists everybody else does, but with a difference. The difference is that each list will be generated entirely by the Destructoid community. Introducing Destructoid Top Ten, where we pledge to judge the quality of every game in existence according to the arbitrary whims of our readers.

We're going to start off with systems. Each time, we'll post one system for Top Ten nominations. Your job, as our loyal Dtoid reader, is to post your favorite three games for that system. We will then tally the vote, which could take ten years, and post the official Top Ten, as created by you. Then much debate can be had. 

Sound good? Good! Problems? Let us know in reply to this post. This is a thing we're doing for the community, so community feedback is required. If you think there is a better way of doing this, tell us!








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PenKaizen's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:02
PenKaizen
I like this idea.
HEL105's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:04
HEL105
Sounds good to me, I like lists.
El Edito's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:04
El Edito
I approve of this idea.
Bigby's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:06
Bigby
So who thought up this particular new segment? Was it you Jim? Or was this some kind of consensus thing that some of you came up with? Lists are good way to categorize an overall like or dislike of things. Though there is inevitably going to be backlash from people about the validity of the lists, what should or should not be on said list, etc, etc, etc. That said let's see how the Dtoid community tallies up THEIR collective ideas on what is considered 'top ten'.
Caedus's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:06
Caedus
Sounds like a good idea to me.
sprldr's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:07
sprldr
Excellent! I fucking love lists of things!
Elsa's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:07
Elsa
Sounds great!... though tallying the posts could take a long time (especially if people have long comments explaining their choices).
Still... I guess that's what programs like Excel are for! LOL!
Tom Davy's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:08
Tom Davy
Could be good, although a platform like PC with so many titles is going to be very very difficult to tally D:
eternalplayer2345's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:08
eternalplayer2345
I like this idea a lot though hopefully it will be a weekly thing and not something daily as that can become very annoying.
pokota's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:09
pokota
Heavy Rain!

Oh, wait, not yet?
Dreyfuss McTafferty's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:10
Dreyfuss McTafferty
So long as they're weekly at the most.
Pangloss's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:10
Pangloss
Proposed first topic: Top 10 "Top 10 'Top 10' lists" lists made in an attempt to be meta!
Cataract's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:10
Cataract
Immediate problems that come to mind are counting votes in any decent amount of time, manually reading each post and tallying would take a lot of time and resources. Perhaps if there was a voting system where you typed a name into a box, which then could count how many submissions it received with the same name? I can't imagine it would be a hard program to write and integrate, but I could be wrong.

Although I hate to say the phrase, but fanboyism could definitely be a problem. How many games are going to be drowned under the massive amount of votes for games in the Final Fantasy franchise, Chrono Trigger, Mario titles, or other similar titles? Everyone is already aware of how amazing these games are, it's one of the reasons they're still discussed today. How can there be a way to separate those titles from the rest so we can get more interesting lists that might provoke someone to say "I've never played/heard of that, but if so many people enjoy it, I might try it" instead of "NO WAY CHRONOT RIGGER IS THE BEST THAN FINAL FANTASSY".

I don't mean to sound like I'm pissing all over your ideas, I guess I'm just trying to start the conversation on how this can be more original than other top 10 lists, and avoid falling into the same pattern and same predictable games being put in the top 10. Something a bit more thought provoking, something that might actually get people to play the games on the list instead of just a giant circlejerk over the same titles that are already being circlejerked on/around/over/inside of.
xaliqen's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:10
xaliqen
I think the top ten lists should be determined, in order, by the contributions of the first ten respondents.

This way, the resulting lists would be just as arbitrary and meaningless as any other method, but would probably end up way funnier.
Lil Jorsche's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:12
Lil Jorsche
Sounds controversial... Which is why lists are sooo awesome!
randombullseye's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:13
randombullseye
My top ten list of top ten lists wasn't enough was it?

And you italicized titles! Something nobody remembers to do. Look at you.

I'll vote Splatterhouse as THE Turbografix 16 game.
Airbr1dge's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:13
Airbr1dge
Fanboy time!
ChaosTeaCup's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:14
ChaosTeaCup
Approve.
Blasto's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:14
Blasto
Cool idea. Disregarding the nostalgia vote, the first one is easy. I can answer that right now without waiting for the nominations; Best system: Playstation 2. As for the other nine, that will be tricky :)
Kraid's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:15
Kraid
Can't wait for the Atari Lynx top10!
wardprod's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:16
wardprod
I don't envy Niero right now :D Also the idea is good.
HeilHiggie's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:17
HeilHiggie
EXCITE....
Blasto's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:18
Blasto
Shit, I misread it, NEED MOAR COFFEE!
fitzinator's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:18
fitzinator
approved x10
LK4O4's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:19
LK4O4
Well, I don't like it, but I'm sure this idea will get you guys plenty of traffic, and I love your site and I want you all to do well... so list on! Let the ad revenue flow!
KieranD's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:19
KieranD
YEAH I KNOW A BETTER WAY OF DOING THIS, BY NOT BEING FAT, HURRR.

But yeah good idea.
SecCom's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:19
SecCom
I think I might have preferred some top 10 lists from Jim himself, since they probably would have been both funny and controversial in their own right, but I like this idea too!
Shadowiii's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:19
Shadowiii
This should prove interesting.
Silverback 55's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:19
Silverback 55
I approve. As long as my opinion is the only one that matters.
Dynamic Sheep's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:22
Dynamic Sheep
Interesting... Let's hope that it doesn't devolve into a GameFAQs-esque "Character Battle" deal. I think we all know who's going to take the top pokemon spot! PROTIP: Vote Ekans EVERY TIME!
emptythecache's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:22
emptythecache
Yo I heard the ocarina of time is dumb.
A Very Drunk Panda's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:25
A Very Drunk Panda
Just one thing I'd like to say, can we avoid "The Cowboy Neal" option, something that is facetious and potentially removes votes, like what slashdot has? It seems like a lot of polls have these, and I'd like to see something that is more serious in gathering statistical information than focused on always having a running gag.
AlexBebop's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:26
AlexBebop
Coolio. I am a sucker for top ten lists.
CelicaCrazed's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:28
CelicaCrazed
TopTenToid??
RichardBlaine's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:31
RichardBlaine
@Jim Sterling

I don't know anything about web-design but it seems to me that a tournament style poll would probably be easier and generate more feedback. For a best games (ever/on Xbox/on PS3/etc) top ten, just let people post nominations as comments in a front page post. Set a cap, then over the next couple of weeks hold polls and start eliminating titles. The remaining ten would be the top ten. It just seems like an easier/more automatic/slicker/still community generated solution.

Thoughts from anyone else?
MorningSon's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:32
MorningSon
Like it!
Daxelman's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:32
Daxelman
LISTS.

LISTS ARE FOR HARDCORE MOTHERFUCKERS!

LISTS GET ALLL THE BITCHES!
Drakengard's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:33
Drakengard
I like the idea, but how well this will actually work? Ahem, let's just say I'm glad I'm not the one tallying the results.

I'd advise building some sort of database or something, but that'd take way too much effort for something like this. Maybe there is some external site you could have people vote through that would make tallying much easier?

However you end up going about it, best of luck. I will be voting, of course.
xibalba's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:34
xibalba
top ten art games

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jaycobo's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:36
jaycobo
Umm, I call bullshit on this idea. Too much would be needed. I am perfectly content with the writers of the website collaborating together to make a best of list.
oberoi's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:40
oberoi
sounds good
zod000's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:42
zod000
Yars Revenge, Pitfall, and Custer's Revenge for the Atari 2600
fetusmilk's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:43
fetusmilk
i agree with cataract.
its an interesting idea. i think i could get into it.
but how to keep people from complaining or commenting on others favorites instead of just listing the games they like.

and i dont think listing why you think your 3 are the best is necessary for people to do for these top tens. its your favorite we get it. you dont need to write 3 paragraphs explaining it. thats what c-blogs are for.
bloodylip's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:50
bloodylip
While Cataract's idea is all well and good on paper, I don't have faith in Destructoid's web monkeys to make it work in a decent amount of time. Hell, you still can't see the next 50 comments after you comment on a story.
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:50
Tubatic
Yeah sure
Forcepath's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:50
Forcepath
I like the idea, but I feel that top 3 is going to limit lists to a very subjective fanboy vote segment. Top 5 might do more justice in my opinion.
wardprod's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:52
wardprod
@ bloodylip

"Hell, you still can't see the next 50 comments after you comment on a story."

LOL I thought that I'm the only one who has that issue 0:
Ganjookie's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:54
Ganjookie
Ekans approves of this!
Calebyte's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:57
Calebyte
Maybe to cut down on spam votes, voters should be required to write a paragraph or two about their choices. The paragraphs should, in a meaningful and substantial manner, explain why their chosen games are noteworthy
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