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Now that Nintendo's new portable dual-screened gaming console, the DSi, has dropped worldwide, you'd think that the many questions about its compatibilities and features would have been cleared up. You already know the basics: bigger screen, two cameras, and a new download store. Most questions have been answered, but some concerns still stand on the import, language, region-locking and access fronts. We aim to answer those questions for you.

We've taken both a US and Japanese Nintendo DSi and put them through their paces, doing our best to see what works and what doesn't between the two. If you're up in the air on importing a DSi, or you're wondering about access to the DSiWare shop, or even wanting to know if all of your game collection will still work, hit the jump and see if we've answered your questions in our FAQ. If we haven't, drop us a line in the comments and we'll get to it as soon as possible.

General Compatibility:

Does my R4 (or other related devices) work in the Nintendo DSi?

You've probably already heard, but just to clear it up, no...for the R4.  In fact, the system does not even "see" the cartridge...or if it does, it's ignoring it. And here's something that might kill your hopes for a future device: the DSi does not even work with Nintendo's own ROM cartridges, the ones that developers and press use to preview game copy. When inserted, the DSi gives this message:

An error has occured. Press and hold the Power Button to turn the system off. Please see the Nintendo DSi Operations Manual for help troubleshooting.

As for the other questionable devices, we've heard that the Acekard 2i works in the DSi, but can't confirm this yet.

So what legit game cartridges do work? Is there region-locking in place here?

No, no cartridge region lock. Everything works...that doesn't require a GBA slot add-on. We tried US, UK, and Japanese game releases in both our US and Japanese DSi systems, and all work perfectly. If it's a retail game, it's good to go in the DSi.

But what about DSiWare? How does that work?

The DSiWare Shops are tied to the respective nation you bought your console from. In other words, our Japanese model only connects to DSiWare Japan.  For the US, you get the English language store only. As far a we know, there's no work-arounds yet. When you hit the DSi Shop icon, it automatically goes to the country's respective store.

So the DSiWare is region-locked?

Correct. Aside from only being able to access your region's store, the games themselves will not boot up. And they will not copy to a system from another region. You can copy all of the DSiWare games you want from any regions to a SD card, but only ones of the correct region will copy back to a system and function. We tried. :(

For the Importers:

Why would I want to import a DSi?

Aside from liking the foreign palette of colors, the only reason to import a DSi from Japan or elsewhere is for the country's exclusive DSiWare. Right now the Japanese store is packed with silly Japanese-only games, some (probably many, by the looks of it) of which will never come in the US. The selection is already fairly good, and will surely only get better. Naturally, all of the games are in Japanese, though.

But you can at least change the language for the system in the menu, right?

Wrong. The Japanese systems don't even have a language selection option (the US DSi do have both language and country options). It's all Japanese. If you don't have sufficient Japanese reading ability, you're going to have a somewhat difficult time even setting the system up out of the box, let alone nagivating the DSiWare store and purchasing games. But if you can read, have at it.

Wait, won't you need a Japanese credit card to buy Japanese DSiWare?

No, your US-issued credit card will work perfectly fine. In the Japanese DSiWare Shop, you are provided with several options to purchase points. Just select "Visa" and type in your card number and expiration date, and points will be instantly added.

Does the Japanese DSi come with free points like the US one did?

Yes. 1,000 points. And there's a bit more to spend it on in Japan. I recommend the Katamari puzzle game. Oh, and the paper airplane game. The Wikipedia article on DSiWare keeps a current list of each region's available titles.

Japan's DSiWare store: what comes free?

Just like the US store, the web browser is free. The fantastic Moving Memo software is also free in Japan.

What about DS Download Play, Pictochat or new Picture Exchange between systems of different region?

All of the above listed functions work pefectly between US and Japanese systems, no problem. Only the menu language is different.

Other General Questions:

What is the current firmware version for the DSi?

North American systems are currently at 1.3 U. Japan has 1.3 J. Both appear to be the exact same in function other than menu language, language options, and a Japan-only connectivity type in the Internet menu.

Firmware updates: how strict is Nintendo on these?

It's probably too early to say yet, but out of the box, on both systems, a firmware update is required to even access the DSiWare store. That does not bode well for future devices like the R4. I say that if this system is hacked, we're guessing it will probably be through a method similar to what they've done on the Wii with the Homebrew Channel.

Do SDHC cards work as storage? 

They seem to work fine in both systems running Ver. 1.3, both as game backup cards and photo storage.

Can you play games off the SD card?

Not yet. You're required to copy the games stored on the card to system memory. This is great for moving and storing games on-the-go, but not so good for easy access. We're guessing they'll open this up later like they did for the Wii.

Security: Does the DSi support WPA and WPA2?

Yes, both are supported by the hardware, but older DS games may not play nicely.

Are there any Easter Eggs?

The Mario song Easter egg: Record your voice in the sound recorder, save it, and the leave the system alone in the sound selection screen for about a minute. Your DSi will sing your recording back to you as the "Super Mario Bros. Theme," with your sound playing the melody.

What about brightness control?

Yep. You can change screen brightness within the menu options.

 


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32 comments | showing # 1 to 32

Yuphrum's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/06/2009 16:39
Yuphrum
Hmm so for the sd thing, would you be able to have one friend buy a game off the DSiware channel then save it to an sd card and then pass said sd card around to his friends where they would be able to make a copy of the game to their own DSi?
silvain's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/06/2009 16:52
silvain
Is there a brightness control on the dsi screens?

It probably doesn't matter to many, but I have a hard time playing for long b/c the current screen is way too bright to my ruined eyes.
Shin Oni's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/06/2009 16:57
Shin Oni
So this is basically, as many probably should think, Nintendo's big "answer" to stopping the R4 crisis with the DS phat/Lite.

Granted...I figure one day i'll get one, but i'm still holding onto my lite just in case I want to NOT purchase a R4.

and I really wish they went smart and decided to AT LEAST leave the DSiware unregion locked. but whatever. Less money for Nintendo.
Yuphrum's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/06/2009 16:58
Yuphrum
@ silvain
There's a brightness controll for the ds lite as well
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/06/2009 17:12
Chronic Logic
What the hell? The R4 doesn't work no more? And what's this about the legit ROMs not working? That doesn't make any sense.

Worse of all is the exclusive DSiware. Does this mean I have to buy a North American and Japanese DSi just so I can get the total selection of games in each region? Crap, wouldn't it be easier if they just have one DSiware shop?

God damn, this sucks. Now I'm even more on the fence on whether to get a DSi or not.
Wan Sum Dung's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/06/2009 17:15
Wan Sum Dung
Aren't there already flash carts that work with the DSi? >_>
garison's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/06/2009 17:19
garison
Very intersting FAQ, Dale. I bought the blue DSi yesterday. But I think I want to get a Japanese DSi eventually.

And if they come out with a special edition Zelda Spirit Tracks DSi, I would definitely have to get that.
killatia's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/06/2009 17:28
killatia
Thanks for the faq Dale.
Dale North's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/06/2009 17:37
Dale North
silvain - yes, FAQ updated
Projectexodus's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/06/2009 17:51
Projectexodus
Acekard 2i works fine on the DSi, even after the firmware update. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kVpFmJUMe4&feature=channel_page]Click here.
Projectexodus's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/06/2009 17:52
Projectexodus
I fail at BBcode...
Dead Movie Star's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/06/2009 18:05
Dead Movie Star
That's a big freakin' stylus.
Fleet3000's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/06/2009 18:06
Fleet3000
I never had a NOT R4, but this really sucks that the firmware updates are gonna stop anything that could be like a NOT R4 from actually working.
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/06/2009 18:27
Holyetheline
Hmmm. This FAQ is FaQ-Tastic!!!
DeltaBurnt's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/06/2009 19:44
DeltaBurnt
Wow you have completely made the DSi "hacking" scene look dimmer than it actually is.

Currently you don't have to update unless you want to goto the DSiStore, and ya you did mention that but you said it as if you decided to not update for awhile (maybe because the latest update blocks flashcarts and you're waiting for an exploit) the DSi would lose all meaning.

I'm fine with not having to go into the DSiStore, you know they're going to eventually find a way to pirate DSiWare anyways.

Also there are 3 working flashcarts on the DSi currently with more to come (Acekard2i, TTDSi, and EZFlash Vi).

Oh and not to mention the HUGE possibility for custom firmware. I mean with Nintendo adding an SD card slot they basically made it easier for us.

AND, there was an article awhile ago saying Nintendo planned to also give the DSiStore a virtual console section for GB and GBA games. You know what that means right? Slot-1 cards can probably now play GBA games without a Slot-2 expansion, thus making up for the lacking GBA slot.

One last thing, you can apparently change the brightness at anytime by holding select and using the volume buttons.

(Sorry to rant)
BluDesign's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/06/2009 20:14
BluDesign
@delta

I still am not convinced the lack of GBA slot is made up for with hardware. Emulation's gonna only cover so much. The GBA slot had a dedicated GBA hiding behind it. No slot = no dedicated GBA. Emulation isn't perfect, ya know... If it wasn't for the fact that the DSiWare will ultimately be overrun with crap shovelware, the battery life isn't gonna get any better, and the totally useless and redundant extra media features of the whole getup (how many portable devices do I own that have cameras that REALLY need them anyway?)

The fact that the camera doesn't actually do anything other than give you a way to kill 5 minutes, is really a lame reason to put the camera in there in the first place.

Crappy browser with no flash support too...

Why do people want this again? Other than the "new" factor? Hint: A new DS Lite is just as new as the DSi. Just that it doesn't have the shovelware selection that the DSi does. So... What's the big gain here folks?

All the bad points really seem to outweigh the positive points of this system.

I think I can do without a slightly larger screen.
DeltaBurnt's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/06/2009 20:45
DeltaBurnt
@Blu

Yah I have to agree with you there. And you are right about the shovelware and the uneeded media parts. But seriously, alot of people were doubting the DS Lite when it came out. I know I did I think I literally said "That's just a shiny DS Phat with curved edges". But after awhile it'll sink in and your views it might shift. And if they don't over time they might if the DSi get's hacked.

This is similar to my PSP. I got my PSP about 3 months after it was released. I was like "Cool, portable PS1". And after about 6 months to a year I almost never used it. The only time I did use it was when Crisis Core came out. And that was only for a couple days. Then when I went back into the hacking scene for it (the only time I was in it before I went back to the official firmware was when I downgraded to play homebrew) and got custom firmware I was pumping about all my time into that thing. And not just because you could play ISOs. It was for the outstanding number of emulators, the PS1 games it could play, the awesome applications it had. It was freaking awesome. And I have no doubt that the same thing will happen for alot of people who have the DSi.

Oh and also to addon to my thing about being afraid to lose the DSiShop. Basically a DSi without the DSi shop is...well...it's still quite alot. You still have your DSi compatible flashcart(so basically you have tons of games, music, videos, and homebrew), you got your cameras (which could be fun to use sometime), you got this cool new interface for the menu, you've got the DSiWare you've already downloaded.

So it's like have a DS Lite with some cool new interesting features. Alot of people think it's the end of the world when Nintendo pumps out that update that blocks flashcarts (that we all know is coming) but really you basically have just a DS Lite with tons of games, and cameras. And like I said it would only be temporary until some exploit is found to get around it.
Rabite's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/06/2009 20:52
Rabite
I'll consider one when they hack the living fuck out of it. I'm not giving up my GBA games without having an acceptable replacement. Not that it matters, I mostly use my PSP (with GBA enhancements) if I'm going anywhere anyway.
Rabite's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/06/2009 20:54
Rabite
Also fuck putting two cameras on a system. I don't understand the reasoning behind it nor do I actually care. It's a game system so set it up like one. I don't even like most of the features the PSP has.
Vitamin Awesome's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/06/2009 23:41
Vitamin Awesome
As it is, I'm perfectly fine with my DS Lite until there's a handful of games that I must own that require the DSi's Features to play. That decision was made a lot easier after reading this FAQ. The SDHC ability is nice, but removing the GBA slot does not bode well for my pokeymans.
Dexter345's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/07/2009 00:32
Dexter345
Thanks, this is pretty helpful.
Chack's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/07/2009 01:11
Chack
Thank you for this information. I'm still buying a US console.
mrberns's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/07/2009 02:26
mrberns
God this thing is useless. I'll stick with my imported DS Lite that has an english option,the ability to use any flash cart i want, and a GBA slot.
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/07/2009 02:50
pedrovay2003
...Wait a minute.

You're telling me that you can download a game from the DSiware store and actually make copies for all your friends? I wouldn't ever pirate this stuff, but I just want to make sure that's correct. I could take my games around and just play them on my friend's DSi, or if I download a multiplayer DSiware game, I can give him/her a copy so we can play multiplayer?

...What the hell? Can this really be true? Nintendo? Why can't they make an update to the Wii to be able to play Virtual Console and WiiWare games on a different console?
Wan Sum Dung's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/07/2009 09:45
Wan Sum Dung
Well, unless Nintendo does something spectacular with DSiware, I'll be pretty content with my current Onyx Lite. The GBA slot is a must when playing teh pokeymanz.

Also...I wouldn't be surprised to see Nintendo charging $8-$10 for GBA games. >_>
Robotic's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/07/2009 11:22
Robotic
Success! Get a DSi and and a haxxing card and don't update firmware.
The-Excel's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/07/2009 23:31
The-Excel
I'll give four months for custom firmware to be released.
crackity jones's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/08/2009 00:16
crackity jones
Dear Nintendo,

Fuck you

Love,
Twister
Nik565's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/08/2009 21:18
Nik565
I don't know about you guys, but the exclusion of the GBA slot is a serious deal breaker for me.
bradr14's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/03/2009 21:52
bradr14
Help me, oh Destructoid gods! I'm in the US and can't for the life of me get my Japanese DSi to connect to the Internet. I keep getting サポートコード 61212. In the article, you say you could connect your Japanese model to DSiWare Japan, but do you have to be in Japan to do so? I can't figure out any other reason why I can't connect. I understand that I'll only be able to access the Japanese store, but I can't seem to even do that. Help please!
Gyuujuice's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/03/2009 19:42
Gyuujuice
I have searcherd and searched for some time and I haven't found an answer.

I bought a Japanese DSi but how would I obtain DSipoints?
Do those store bought cards work? Does credit card work?

Thank you so much!
(It hasn't come in the mail yet so I have yet to experiment.)
Gyuujuice's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/03/2009 22:34
Gyuujuice
I have searcherd and searched for some time and I haven't found an answer.

I bought a Japanese DSi but how would I obtain DSipoints?
Do those store bought cards work? Does credit card work?

Thank you so much!
(It hasn't come in the mail yet so I have yet to experiment.)
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