One question...what's with the funky new pic, Nex? It reminds of a British dude. Don't ask why. Maybe it's the hair and the glasses. Anyway. Good review.
Interesting... 9.5, eh? From Nex? I may have to check this one out, sometime.
but i know this is a VF game and since i played VF4 i know how hard and rewarding quest mode is...
i wish online sounded like it was a bit more...and i think the review may be a bit biased..but i wouldnt discount this game as a 9 or above
You could master EVERY Tekken character in the time it takes to master ONE in VF5?
HA!
And I thought you were the one that LIKED Tekken (meaning you might have actually PLAYED it). Yes, VF is generally considered to be the most "complex" 3D fighter out there but it's not ever CLOSE to THAT much more complex than Tekken. And if you actually believe what you wrote then you know nothing of Tekken.
I've been playing Tekken for a decade and I wouldn't go so far as saying I've "mastered" anyone. I'm good enough to compete (and sometimes win) in tournaments but no matter how long I sit down with the game, I always manage to figure out new strategies and new ways to play.
Also, you speak of VF's movelists as if they're infinitely longer than Tekken's when in fact they're about the same length (if not shorter in general) depending on the character. Nina's list, for example is about 150 moves. King's is around 190 with more than 80 of those being throws.
I couldn't care less which series you like the most as everyone has a right to their own oppinion but don't rat on a series you obviously know comparatively little about.
I respect it as one of the finest fighters of our time, but I simply will not play it.
Good review Nex. Very good. I won't play it, but I will highly recommend it.
And DinnertimeNinja has absolutely no idea what he is talking about...
Don't know what you're talking about with occasional frame-rate issues in the PS3 version though Nex, mine works perfectly fine.
I bought this with my triple and I bought it for my 360
gamertag is cjpkiller
and my wolf, kage, shun di, and venessa will kick the fucking shit out of you.
when it gets fixed by msofts lovely service... NOT... I'll be on.
But the game is hella fun, its accesible to newbies but once you start working on offensive and defensive moves, counters and just from how many angles you cans start a throw or a combo, juggles are also important.
Its just simply amazing how it also changes, Pai has a massive change-ups but you switch to Goh or Wolf and suddenly you have to work with a grappler mindset, stages with walls, its a ton of stuff you have to take into consideration and it leads to a great game.
The customization is great as well, my Pai looks nothing like she normally does and many other characters seem brand new with the different outfits.
I just wish the online wasn't so barebones, I wanted a quarter mode so I could play with my friends :(
I'm not arguing that VF is the most complex 3D fighting series. It is. For sure. But you're DEFINITELY talking up VF a little too much with your figures.
First, I actually looked up move lists for both games before I made those statements and including EVERY possible move for a character in VF5 (situational variations of moves included in the lists) the number was still only around 150. And YES these VF5 movelists include combos as more than one move (ie. P, and P,K, and P,K,K counting as 3 moves) just as often as the Tekken lists do. 500-800 is an absurd exaggeration of epic proportions.
Second, no characters in current Tekken series are meerly "palette swaps." Yes, many started out that way, but each game since they were introduced they've been expanded upon to become more and more individual from each other. So much so that many of the originally "palette swapped" characters only share 5-10 moves out of over 100 anymore. In fact, if you take away ALL of the characters that started out as copies of other characters, you'd STILL have a larger roster to choose from than in VF5. (I'm counting from T5:DR. T6 has at least 4 MORE completely new characters)
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From your comments it's very obvious that your grasp of Tekken is barely skin deep. Frankly, it even feels like your grasp of VF isn't very deep. Anyone who thinks there's THAT many moves per character no matter HOW you classify them is playing a different game than the rest of the world.
While I may have seemed quite sure of myself already, all I was arguing was that Tekken wasn't nearly dumb as you painted it to be.
I know of the complexities of the VF series but have found the game to be a little to clinical at tourny level for my taste. The amount of play style freedom really dwindles when you reach a certain level and find the list of things you HAVE to do with your character to compete.
Tekken, in my opinion, offers me more freedom to play the way I like to play. I LOVE when someone wins a match and is told they have a very "unconventional" style with their character. That never happened to me in VF.
and 500-800? 'absurd' is being too kind, you're either a pathological liar or just plain stupid.

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