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Destructoid review: skate.

8:46 PM on 09.17.2007   |   Nex

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The sub-genre of sports games devoted to skateboarding has changed drastically since its debut. Originally, titles such as Thrasher and Skate Or Die portrayed skateboarding as a cliché-ridden MTV-friendly adventure where one could just as likely be killed by bees as grind a rail.

Then came Tony Hawk and his eponymous series of skating titles. While Tony's games elevated the state of virtual skateboarding -- and sold an assload of copies -- they reflected the traditions of gaming more than the revered and decades old traditions of skateboarding -- so while the titles were fun, they were still simply arcade games with a famous spokesperson and a dope soundtrack.

A few days ago, Electronic Arts dropped skate. on the gaming community in an effort to dethrone the empire Mr. Hawk and Neversoft had created for Activision. How did they do?

Hit the jump to find out.

For those of you with attention spans rivalling that of the tiny Tsetse fly, the condensed version of what I'm about to say goes like this: skate. Is the new  king of skateboarding games. It improves on every aspect of the Tony Hawk Pro Skater series, and drops all of the unncessary, unrealistic wackiness that Neversoft added merely for levity. If you've ever enjoyed skateboarding or the video game equivalent of such, you will love skate.

skate. prides itself on its realism. From the control scheme that remains closer to Street Fighter-style half-circle Hadoukens than THPS' Tekken-esque button mashing combos, to the series of young, yet popular pro skaters you interact with, everything in skate. has a feel of authenticity that has been quickly abandoned with greater and greater zeal in each successive iteration of the THPS titles. Some might worry that this realism will turn off those who merely enjoy virtual skating and have no interest in spending three hours drinking beers at the Burnside Skate Park, but the entire game is presented so intuitively and with such great attention to detail that gamers will adhere to the learning curve like a Pennywise sticker to the bottom of your fourteen year old brother's Zoo York deck.

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The presentation of skate. is at once utterly slick and gritty as the faux Southern California city the game takes place in. The graphics, while not equal to those in BioShock or Forza 2, are still above average for a new-gen title and when combined with the (occasionally overzealous) physics engine and stylistic cues in the game, the presentation gives off the same sort of vibe you see in skater rags like Thrasher magazine. I also have to give special attention to the soundtrack. Without any hyperbole, I can say that this is the finest real-world soundtrack ever included in a video game. It runs the gamut from metal to hip-hop to indie rock, and by including music from The Exploding Hearts, Mike Skinner and Band of Horses, EA automatically won the affection of everyone who lives in Portland, Oregon.

In every skating game since the beginning of time, the focus is on the gravity-defying stunts you can manage to twist your body/board combination into. While THPS relies on a combo system that shattered phalanges with its intense number of high-speed button presses and digital contortions that would give a Capuchan arthritis, skate. uses a system of joystick manipulations to launch you into the air, turn your body and flip your board about. Grinding is merely a matter of landing properly on a ledge, and when combined with manuals that are as simple as leaning the stick forward or back, you have your arsenal of tricks. Of course, on their own these techniques dont add up to much, but by filling your multiplier meter, and doing tricks often enough to ensure it stays lit, you can carve amazing lines that lack the surreal, cartoonish glee of THPS, but more than make up for it in realism and the inherent sex appeal of the sport itself.

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That control scheme may also lead to one of the titles greatest challenges. THPS succeeded so handily due to its pick-up-and-play nature that appealed to everyone, but skate. has a definite learning curve. It's almost preferable to play this game before breaking your hymen on Tony's title, as trying to ween yourself off of the THPS fundamentals will take more time than picking up skate.'s gameplay basics from the well-crafted tutorials. The control scheme -- while more complex -- also offers much more satisfaction once it has been mastered, and the focus becomes one of technical excellence instead of scores in the hundreds of thousands as a result.

Topping off this already delicious counterculture muffin is the video and photo capture system built in. A similar idea was demonstrated recently in Forza 2, but it wasn't nearly as robust as the one found here. The system allows you to save both photos and videos, edit them in-game then upload them directly to EA's servers. Once live on the Internet, you can e-mail them to friends, co-workers and that ex-girlfriend of yours who left you for Mike Vallely. The ability to show off your finest lines, tricks and crashes has been a favorite activity in real skating since its inception and emulating this so well in virtual form was a stroke of genius.

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The game isn't without flaws, however. It loses points based on the fact that its multiplayer is basically just that found in THPS, and while that means it's rather robust, in a title with so much innovation over what came before I was expecting more. Also, while load times are quite manageable and rarely overlong, they occasionally occur often enough to cause annoyance. Both of these issues though, are relatively minor when compared to everything else this title offers.

In the end, skate. is the finest skateboarding title available. It's the sort of game where the world is so completely open-ended and well-designed that while the "main quest" might take thirty hours, many people are going to be coming back to this title for months to come. EA did an amazing job with this title and the THPS boys are going to have to pull out some amazing work to top this one.

Destructoid Final Verdict:
Score: 9/10
Verdict: Buy it!

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slee's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2007 20:52
slee
He Speaks the truth EXCELLENT GAME!! However I am stuck on one little area where Rags from Thrasher Mag wants me to do a manual and then gap onto the street but I do the manual and then I don't know WTF a gap is can any one help me on this...? Please!!!??
Cheeburga's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2007 20:53
Cheeburga
I whole heartedly agree.
I was shocked when I went to stores and they were actually sold out if not pre-ordered.
But I have it in my hands and have enjoyed every second of it.

Yes the multi-player is a problem, I was expecting a hop in at anytime, anyplace, free skate the whole entire city then start a game when you want, type of multi-player.
But hey, Skate.2
bubuli's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2007 20:54
bubuli
i never got into the Tony Hawk skating games due to the multitude of inane button combinations to perform tricks and the uber-unrealistic physics.

i thought i would never like skate. but when i read that the controls were reminiscent of Fight Night, i thought it would be as awesome as FN, or as retarded as Def Jam Icon. fortunately, it was the former...and after playing the demo 1,967 times, i'm finally ready to put some money down...on the PS3 version...because my 360 crapped out yesterday.
Neonie's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2007 20:56
Neonie
Post one of your Skate. Reel videos Nex 8D.

Also, main quest is easy at first but get's hard as shit towards the end.
Eschatos's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2007 21:08
Eschatos
The only thing I ever did in Tony Hawk was turn on infinite grind, and grind around in a huge circle on a luggage terminal thingy in an airport on multiplayer with a friend, and knock each other off, I'm not much of a skater.
Darren Nakamura's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2007 21:16
Darren Nakamura
I've been hearing good things, and after having been jaded by the last few Tony Hawk games, I think I'm probably going to pick this up.
tehdopefish's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2007 21:28
tehdopefish
Tony hawk got boring as hell after the first 4, but you have convinced me to at least take a closer look at the game... TO THE DEMO CAVE, BATMAN!
Jerkbutt47's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2007 21:28
Jerkbutt47
this looks awesome, cause all I did in tony hawk was mash buttons. seriously...
Skeeter's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2007 21:36
Skeeter
The mere fact that this game immensely tones down the pace of the game and gives that mellow "skater" vibe while playing makes the game well worth the buy. For years I've watched skating reels wondering why they can't manual into a pipe, do the jackass, then come right back into another manual. This game slaps you in the face and says, "This is how skating is supposed to be.
Wargasmic's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2007 22:11
Wargasmic
I'd get this game but Halo 3 will take it over in a week. It's a shame.
Trevor McGee's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2007 22:21
Trevor McGee
Skate blows any Tony Hawk away, in fact I'd go as far to say that Skate is the best skateboarding game created to this day. Tony Hawk pretty much just turned into Jackass except they switched out Knoxville with Tony Hawk.
bottled dark's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2007 22:24
bottled dark
crap...


now i have to buy this game.
ArrestedDeveloper's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2007 22:26
ArrestedDeveloper
I bought it and am enjoying it, plus you know it's cool because skate is lowercase.
slee's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2007 22:30
slee
No no it wasnt a rail thing it says go to the edge of the ledge and manual the gap what the hell does that mean haha any one help me it takes place right infront of the skate store at the art institute.
tehuberone's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2007 22:48
tehuberone
I like skate. I just hoped they would've given you the ability to perform more moves or at least flatland. Definitely a fun demo.
LostCrichton's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2007 22:55
LostCrichton
great review...I was hoping Dtoid would help me decide if I should buy this and it looks like I will. Thanks!
TheExit's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2007 23:19
TheExit
The game owns! SO GOOD! The only problem I have with the game is that you can't pick up your board and walk up the stair sets, and other stuff. Its a pain skating around shit to the top. In skating we get off the board, climb the stairs, and throw ourselves down it again. Other then that, pick this game UP! HOLLA!
callmesteam's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2007 23:32
callmesteam
Ugh... too close to Metroid 3 and Halo 3. by the time I've tired of Samus, Master Chief will hit... and then comes Gordon Freeman... after Orange Box though, I'll definitely be digging into skate. This will mark the first year ever that I've not picked up Tony Hawk on its release date... thats how good the skate demo is.
Samit Sarkar's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2007 23:35
Samit Sarkar
I hope EA doesn’t fuck over PS3 owners like they did with Madden NFL 08 and NHL 08 — framerate-wise, I mean. Hm...this game, or Ratchet and Clank Future? Decisions, decisions...
Aaron Mxy Yost's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2007 23:36
Aaron Mxy Yost
But can you play as Mr. Destructoid?
TheBrain's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2007 23:49
TheBrain
DO WANT
Reeper's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2007 23:49
Reeper
Great write, as a skater myself I found it a bit underwhelming landing multi-million point combos in THPS, and look forward to playing skate with it's visceral control scheme and video editor.

Also, +1000 points for the Mike V. reference.
Ignignokt01's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/17/2007 23:58
Ignignokt01
Fuck yeah this game rocks. My newest addiction.

Tony Hawk games can go fuck themselves with a big nasty dildo.
Boolean's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2007 00:40
Boolean
I can't wait for the YouTube skate videos. Oh man it's gonna be fucking sweet.
spacecadetjoe's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2007 00:46
spacecadetjoe
I'll never stop loving tony hawk 1 through 4 but after the last few iterations this looks like just what the doctor ordered.
emotaku's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2007 00:48
emotaku
I'm still disturbed Eternal Sonata got a higher score than this game on GameSpot.
RskimB's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2007 01:05
RskimB
Good review Nex, yea skate. is preparing to leave Mr. Hawk in the dust.
Kyousuke Nanbu's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2007 02:40
Kyousuke Nanbu
Its a great game but not without its flaws, for the many things it does well it does a lot of things that piss you off as well.

For one thing the pedestrians and other skaters do nothing but get in your way, its not uncommon to have a great line ruined because you came down from somewhere and thanks to the shitty, shitty camera you land on someone and there goes all your work.

Some challenges border on the impossible and others are to easy, my biggest issue with this game is the flick it controls, like all analog controls they are way to sensitive and many, many times you'll miss your intended trick(like a nollie for example) because the analog stick registers it as something else.

And jesus christ this game throws the advertisments in your face, you meet someone and the game tells you the exact brand of everything they are wearing.

Great game but far to aggravating for my tastes, this one is going to the trade in pile alongside stuntman.
Kyousuke Nanbu's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2007 02:49
Kyousuke Nanbu
Forgot to add unclear objectives to my post, what in the flaming ass fuck does P-rod want goddamit? Nollie 360 flip into what? you cocksucking retard asshole.
Bethla Garrison's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2007 03:55
Bethla Garrison
@Nex - Awesome review. I'm so stoked to see that this game is getting the sort of press and reviews that it deserves. It has tons of little flaws, glitches, things that should be better - but for a first try I don't know if it could get any better. Now it just needs to do really well commercially so that they can make Skate 2.

@Kyousuke - it takes practice, that's all. In reality, the analog stick isn't screwing up, you are. It totally feels like the controls are too loose when you start, but.. once you get the hang of it, you can nail anything first try. And as far as the ads are concerned - they're a little over the top, but skate culture is ruled by advertisers and sponsors more than most other solo sports.

@Boolean - they're coming. A bunch of people (myself included) are working on their own vids now, the next month or so will be epic. I've never in my life wanted to make a video out of a game I was playing, but I can't stop cutting skate footage up. Do Youtube searches for "Mazzdizzy" and "Teku Skate" if you want to see some of the better stuff that's been done so far.
OrangeGoblin's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2007 04:26
OrangeGoblin
So, EA make good, original games now?
Garbz's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2007 05:02
Garbz
Good review.

Still not sold on Skate. completely though.

Yeah it's better than anything Tony Hawk spews out these days but i really didn't enjoy the demo.
bleep's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2007 05:30
bleep
Nex: So are there secret characters you can unlock? I want to McTwist with a secret character and then yell loud!

@Juggernaut: I use FCP and Avid and am just learning Flash & its a whole different animal so I wouldn't worry if you're having growing pains.
galagabug 's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2007 08:05
galagabug
i keep hearing nothing but good things, defiantely gonna have to buy. what to pawn?
he1ixx's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2007 08:49
he1ixx
@Kyousuke Nanbu
why do people bitch about the in-game advertising? the entire game mechanic is based on getting sponsorship for products so you can earn money. that's how real pro-skaters own money in real life. to cite this as a problem means you don't really understand fundamentally how the game (and skating professionally) works.
dgenerate's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2007 09:14
dgenerate
I have to agree! I love the new 'line' combo system, and just the general feel of the game. Where Tony Hawk is a goofy, over-the-top representation of skateboarding, skate really nails the essence of skateboarding. The controls are tough to grasp, but it really gives you a sense of accomplishment when you pull off even the smallest of tricks.
Snaileb 's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2007 09:49
Snaileb
Yeah yeah I'll buy it...

NOT BECAUSE NEX SAID SO THOUGH!! NU-UH!
xmetninjax's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2007 11:10
xmetninjax
While I do like Skate, I was on an external quality assurance team testing the game for about 3 months personally, and there is one minor complaint which I decided to submit as a bug: You can't coffin under a truck. It was one of the first things I noticed playing the game, and I was pissed I wasn't able to do it, as it seemed easy enough to clear. The response I got from EA was that they couldn't allow the player to be run over, as it would mean risking getting a higher ESRB rating, thus potentially reducing their market. I thought that was typical of them, but anyways, I'm glad the game is being received well, and I will buy it in support of them, as well as the fact that I'll probably own everybody online for the first week or so, until they get the hang of it.
twinkiebots's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2007 11:27
twinkiebots
"Nollie 360 flip into what? you cocksucking retard asshole."

nollie 360 flip to grind the ledge to the right then touch the pad at the end I think, I can't remember what I did.

Yeah this game is tits. I really like the multiplayer, I find myself bursting out laughing alot when I'm playing it at the random dudes (myself included) that are playing a ranked match and you know that nobody is going to beat their score, so you just say fuckit and ride down laying on your back or fall in funny ways on purpose.
he1ixx's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2007 13:51
he1ixx
"Nollie 360 flip into what? you cocksucking retard asshole."

yeah that was harsh to get right.

one push to start moving towards the hubba at a 45 degree angle. as you move towards it, push the right stick to 3 o'clock and leave it there as you approach. move the stick quickly from 3 o'clock to 12 o'clock and then down the 6:30ish and you should land like a feather after your impressive 360 Nollie Flip. at that point, ride the hubba down to the landing and check yourself out. You're done.
AngelsDontBurn's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2007 14:07
AngelsDontBurn
I want to go get this but I have to wait! I hate having bills! :(
Spectral's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2007 18:55
Spectral
The Tony Hawk franchise is dead. After playing the Proving Grounds demo, Skate is far more superior in terms of controls(the trick stick is cool) and gameplay. The whiny commentator guy gets annoying after awhile.

Nice flip, but...WHY'D YOU LET GO SO EARLY?x225w535
maarken's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2007 13:01
maarken
oh i shall own this game. yes i shall...
chronicus_prime's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2007 15:09
chronicus_prime
Skate. rulez, although I'm sure most will agree that the camera needs to be changed. Also, the skater is so clumbsy that it would've been nice to be able to hop off board when you get stuck in an akward position. But do yourself a favor and buy this game. Im sad cause right now i'm painting my room and cant plug it in until i'm done. (personal goal to finish quicker)
kittridge's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2007 21:35Image Hosted by ImageShack.us</a><br/>
kittridge
You couldn't express in words my elation at hearing "chase money" by trouble aka trevor andrew (the pro snowboarder). I had only ever heard a 10 second clip of that song, in a snowboarding film, so I never expected to hear the full version.
Great effin soundtrack.

And the review is spot on, except I don't think its difficult to pick up and play. Yeah, it takes a some practice to flip on beast mode but I think the average gamer could get it in a few minutes. Even my girlfriend (who hates video games and can't use two joysticks for shit) was able to ollie around and have a good time.

She won't be doing hardflip to feeble grinds or varial heelflip to manuals any time soon, but I bet 95% of dudes wouldn't have any problem.
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