I loved Mass Effect, I loved Assassin's Creed, I loved Mario Galaxy, and Goddammit I loved the shit out of Kane and Lynch AND Manhunt 2!
I agreed with most of the negative criticisms of all those titles (except Galaxy), but I still enjoyed them all for what they were: flawed but enjoyable entertainments. Gaming is fun! Whatever happened to the love of games despite their flaws. I grew up with NES and Sierra point-and-clicks and I loved them all despite any problems I ever had with glitches or installs. I love Games!! Isn't that why we're here?
I know that the job of a review is to let people know about potential money wastage, but it should only be used as a guideline. I enjoy reading reviews and I enjoy getting the different perspectives on stuff, but I never take any ONE review as the all-knowing answer.Anyone who gets pissed about a single review needs to go over to Metacritic and get another perspective. Maybe one that fits their specific tastes will be enough to make them feel right about purchasing or not purchasing. Don't get pissed about someone else's opinion. Just try it yourself. TRY TO ENJOY IT ON YOUR OWN TERMS!
I just wish everyone could take a step back sometimes and really appreciate their hobbies for what they are: Pure Entertainment, a passtime, otherwise....why fuckin' bother?
Yes. I'm pretending to like the game, even though I'm disappointed. As is everyone else who loves this game. Also, I put 30 hours into playing it so far because I'm scared to admit that the game doesn't live up to the hype and I'm instead imagining it as it could have been. That makes perfect sense.
I had no problem with the Thorian killing. I've had no problem with any of the combat and slowdown problems. In fact, the only lagging I've really noticed is while running down hallways, etc. in non-combat areas.
Cons: Framerate sucks, animations are glitchy, Squad AI is broken, Vehicle controls are ridiculous, non-mission planets are practically identical.
Pros: Huge universe to play through; Story is huge; has the same attention to detail as KOTOR but the whole thing is brand new and not lifted from a license; Levelling for the most part is fun
Rent till you beat it a time or two, no multiplayer, there's replay value if you HAVE to play through every quest...
You have chosen wisely, friend.
Disappointing attributes may equal flaws, but flaws aren't always disappointing. Especially when you have so much fantastic content.
However, if you think there are no flaws in Mass Effect, then you're an idiot.
That said. I'm loving Mass Effect. Flaws and all.
Autosave is great and all, but you DO realize that at just about any time, you can pause the game and save manually? It takes about 5 seconds. You can't save during combat (pretty much par for the course for most games) but most enemies are in groups or seperated into different rooms. Clear out a room, save real quick. Not that hard. Certainly not enough to be an issue that reduces the game's quality. I personally couldn't care less about autosave. I played over 100 hours of Oblivion and saved my own game then, too. This is exactly what I'm talking about with people complaining about things that really don't affect the quality of the game.
LordRegulus:
I disagree: I thought I was pretty nice to Mass Effect (in terms of OUR use of the 1-10, 7 is a pretty damned good score). I acknowledged its flaws, certainly -- mainly to de-hype the game for anyone who hadn't yet bought it, so they'd enjoy it that much more upon a purchase. BioWare did indeed promise the moon when it came to this game, and judging from the initial cblogger impressions of ME it seems like most gamers bought into it, at least partially; we expected Oblivion in space, and we got KOTOR 3. That's not a bad thing, obviously (as I hope I pointed out in the last third of the review), but it is surprising and disappointing enough that it warrants being mentioned.
I didn't say "lower your expectations" to sound like a self-important dickhead ranter: I said it because you will LITERALLY enjoy Mass Effect a lot more if you go in with a full understanding of its flaws. Tycho from Penny Arcade said basically the same thing -- that he wished someone had de-hyped him before playing it so he could have enjoyed it that much more.
Anyone who says they're logging more than 30 hours:
I mean absolutely no offense by this, but HOW? The main campaign only consists of about six or seven levels/worlds, and the sidequests are typically just really quick "go here, kill these guys, come back, get reward" jobs. Unless you keep dying over and over and over again, I can't understand how it'd take more than 25 hours to see most of what this game has to offer.
BuckF1tches:
I like THIS game. Considering how I normally score games, seven is pretty darn high, wouldn't you say?
akathatoneguy:
I began to enjoy the combat after a while in the same way that a rape victim begins to eventually enjoy the feel of penetration despite her personal desires: you ease into it. You get used to the slow aiming and the odd pacing, and you can look past its problems and sort of enjoy them, but the system's inherent flaws (and limitless, untapped potential) always hung in the air in front of me.
And if you think I'm the type who prioritized technical excellence over innovation, immersion, or storytelling, read my review of The Darkness: graphically I had NO problems with it, and it did many things adequately, but I shat on it because it was horrendously paced, the story sucked, and the whole thing felt stale.
And as I said to Regulus, hype certainly has a place in a review if it has been so widespread and exaggerated by the developers that the actual game itself comes as a kick in the pants. As the review manifesto says, we judge each game based on what it tries to accomplish, and how well it succeeds: I didn't review the game BioWare SAID we would get (if I had, the score would have been a lot lower and the review would have been meaningless), but I spent several paragraphs pointing out the game's flaws because we were, generally, looking for a better game than we got.
ME would have gotten a 7/10 from me no matter how it'd been hyped due to its wonky combat, menu system, RPG aspects, and other things, but I spent a lot of physical space describing its disappointments because, generally, gamers who have been looking forward to it need to know what it is, and what it isn't, so they can have a better understanding of (and therefore a better time with) the end product.
To everyone who says Mass Effect is a Game of the Year candidate:
You do know BioShock and the Orange Box came out this year, right?
7 is reasonably high for Rev, it's actually one of the highest I've seen from him. On Gamespot it's death tho...
Id give it an 9, fucking buy it
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Quit being tools. If you think Naruto and Mass Effect are games meant to compete with one another critically or commercially, you're a silly person. Silly!
So funny to see all the fanboi's going "Thanks for the review" "great review" "Honest review" "Fair review" You got a macro for that? Since the same would been posted if it got a 9.
Thanks you.
Naruto and Mass Effect are two completely different games. Comparing Naruto to Mass Effect is like comparing Brain Age to Halo 3. It just doesn't work accurately.
I was talking about credibility of that particular website, not about the difference in game genre's like Linde just said. He's completely right about that.
when mass effect sets up this awesome universe where the infinite is the limit, you don't give the game a 9 just because the magnitude of mass effect is much larger than naruto. its what the game does with its own rules and mechanics that decide the ultimate experience.
in my case, mass effect over-delivered. i fucking love it and i am willing to defend until i die. in revs case, although he makes ridiculous arguments just to buy into the anti-hype crowd, mass effect under-delivered.
Also, what are you compare Mass Effect too? What RPJ game out right now is better than Mass Effect and is just as interactive?
One thing I forgot to mention: I hate how the reviews (and Penny Arcade) point out that there is no tutorial and that they don't teach you how to play. It's not that complicated. If you've played games before, it's pretty damn easy to figure out.
Forced tutorials in games kinda piss me off since pretty much anyone with half a brain can get it within 5-10 minutes of playing the game.
shouldn't you review the game for what it is, and stray away from media related shenanigans?
p.s. i think between the character/atmosphere/roleplaying, the game pulls itself out of the 'rent' category..
as far as the actual rating goes, well, clearly there's actual system; hopefully you got the hits you were fishing for.
About Beating it around 40 Hours
I didn't really die a lot, especially towards the end. I just went at my own pace and made sure to explore everything. In the end, I hadn't even explored all of the planets.
About Game of the Year
Bioshock would be my runner-up, but in the end, it's still just another FPS. Granted, it's the greatest FPS since Half-Life 2, but it's still another FPS.
The Orange Box to me should be treated as 5 games. Half-Life 2 came out years ago so that shouldn't even count but if it did, I'd say I still enjoyed ME more. TF2 is awesome but it doesn't have any more content than Shadowrun (actually less I think) and in the end I prefer DoD4's multiplayer. Portal is by all means an awesome game but it's too short to recommend as the greatest game of the year.
I guess it's just that I appreciate the amount of work that went into Mass Effect. There isn't any other game like it on any console this generation. The story is epic, the amount of background information and attention to detail is amazing, the combat is fun (sorry I liked it) and rewarding but still different from anything else, the voice acting was great, the dialogue is interesting and engaging, and oh yeah, I could play it at least once more with a surprisingly different style of character and see things play out differently thant he first time by being a complete ass to people.
That stuff just outweighs all of the flaws this game has and ultimately makes me enjoy it more than Bioshock or Orange Box or anything else this year.
They might not be in the same genre, but they do compete. They're both still video games. There are people who walk into game stores with $60 to burn. And if I worked at Gamestop, and someone said "What should I spend my money on: Mass Effect or Naruto: Rise of the Ninja?" I would answer "Mass Effect" everytime.
The combat is completely different than Jade Empire plus the story and universe are leagues above that game. It IS a lot like KOTOR but with it's own unique universe, again the combat is different, and the dialogue system is handled a lot better. I would consider it the spiritual successor of KOTOR.
I disagree with the mako controls, although it would have really been a plus if the game told me that the right bumper shot rockets instead of stumbling onto it by trying to get into a menu. Once you use the MAKO for a bit it becomes a very easy to use vehicle, and the combat in it, at least for me, was pretty satisfying.
The game is flawed, there is zero doubt about that...but I just can't see how you did 75% of the game and the main quest in 16 hours. I'm still on my first playthrough and I have 34 hours in, and haven't gotten the majority achievement yet. There is so much to explore that it is almost a disservice to not really check the universe that Bioware created out.
I've blogged on here on what I call the Mass Effect effect. You should check it out....You have every right to your opinion, and I dare not say you're wrong. But I definitely disagree.
The original KOTOR is/was an excellent game. I would like to play this game.
Note to KOTOR fans:
Jennifer Hale(the voice of Bastilla) plays the female version of you in this game :D.
Nick Chester: You should give Mass Effect a loose score to see how the bloggers will react.
Rev. A: What score should I give it?
Nick C: 7.0....and make it a rent game.
Rev. A: Thats fucking crazy! Why mess with the community?
Nick C: We both are bored on a Saturday. Who gives a shit? Not me!
Rev. A: Ok. If I get of 100 comments you owe me a drink tonight!
Nick C: GodDamnit.............its a deal.
Neiro: What in the fuck is going on here you dipshits?
Nick C: It wasn't me.
Rev A: Sorry.
Neiro: Oh, nevermind its ok, who cares if the fanboys get pissed.
*thread created*
youre sooooooooooooooo awesome rev
Think I like it the best out of all I've seen honestly. Game really should be held accountable for its shortcomings and lying(s) regarding the conference video cutouts.
Way to lay down the law, don't think anyone had the guts to rate it below 8.

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