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When I was 19, my two favorite comic books were Sin City and Hellboy, and my three favorite movies were Evil Dead 2: Dead by Dawn, Dolemite (link NSFW), and Escape from New York. Knowing that, just imagine how amazed I was last year when I heard that Platinum Games was making a game that looks exactly like Sin City; stars a guy who looks like a perfect cross between Sin City's Marv, Hellboy's Hellboy, and Evil Dead's Ash; and has a story that is almost exactly like Escape from New York. If, at age 19, I had the power to make any videogame I wanted, that game would have been MadWorld.

It wouldn't be until I actually played the game that I realized how much Dolemite-style ridiculousness MadWorld has, too, but I'll get to that later. 

Now, at age 32, I still love stuff like Sin City and Evil Dead, but that kind of over-the-top action/comedy/horror isn't my favorite thing in the world anymore. I need at least a little substance to make me happy now, not just great art design and bloody chainsaw duels.

Is MadWorld a game that is only suitable for 19-year-old me, or is this a game that 32-year-old me can get into as well? More importantly, what about you? Is this game worth your time, or even worth buying a Wii for?

Hit the jump for the review, courtesy of me and Anthony Burch. 

MadWorld (Wii)
Developer: Platinum Games
Publisher: Sega
Released: March 10, 2009
MSRP: $49.99

As a huge fan of Clover/Platinum's two other beat-'em-ups, Viewtiful Joe and God Hand, I was initially pretty disappointed with MadWorld. It was only after playing it for about a half hour that I figured out that MadWorld isn't a beat-'em-up; it's a "kill-'em-up." Not judging it against prior beat-'em-ups really went a long way towards helping me appreciate the game. It was also at about the half-hour mark that the game went from being "sort of weird" to "totally batshit insane," which also did a lot to win me over.

But I'm getting ahead of myself. 

MadWorld is a game about a man trapped in a city filled with killers, forced to compete in a televised murder-sport called "DeathWatch TV." Like in Escape from New York, the game takes place in a city that is being held hostage by criminals and maniacs, and like in the Japanese classic film Battle Royale, the only one allowed out of the city is the game's winner (i.e., the last person left alive). While in the midst of this life-or-death struggle, Jack (the game's lead) will meet many willing contestants, as well defenseless citizens who were forced into the games when their city was transformed into a giant cage filled with predators hungry for death and money.

The game's scenario vacillates between being 24-level serious, action movie cool, and completely zany and madcap. One minute Jack will be talking about government conspiracies and the true meaning of evil, and the next he'll be loading a rollerblade-clad Grim Reaper onto a catapult and launching him headlong into the moon, resulting in a big, bloody splat. The game follows its own sort of dream-like logic from beginning to end, leaving the player constantly unsure of what to expect. I don't want to give too much away, but let's just say that everyone from Star Wars fans to BioShock devotees will find something to like in MadWorld. It really feels like the guys at Platinum just took everything they ever liked in any movie, game, or comic, and tried to stick it all in one place.

Thanks im part to the consistent art direction, these many deviations from normalcy never come off as out of place. MadWorld's black-and-white look is probably its most distinguishing characteristic, and it's also something that the game couldn't function without. After playing it for a few minutes, you'll likely forget that the game is mostly devoid of color, just as most people who watch The Simpsons quickly forget that they're watching yellow-skinned freaks with no eyebrows as they begin to accept the world's unique rules as the new normal. But just because you get used to the game's stunning look doesn't mean it isn't always actively involved with the MadWorld experience. The game's art direction, and truly amazing character designs, do most of the heavy lifting in providing MadWorld with its one-of-a-kind atmosphere, as well as help excuse the many ridiculous (and ridiculously violent) events that take place therein

Quick digression: did you know that Monty Python and the Holy Grail is rated PG, despite the fact that it features the slow, deliberate cleaving of a man's limbs from his body, loads of penis, spanking, and oral sex talk, and a bunny that bites people's heads off? If that kind of stuff was in a game, there is no question that it would get slapped with an M, or maybe even an AO rating. I bring this up because the violence in MadWorld is only a hair more "serious" than that found in Holy Grail. In fact, a case could even be made for MadWorld being more harmless, as Monty Python and the Holy Grail features real human beings in those violent situations, while MadWorld only features pseudo-drawings of human beings getting murdered, and in super-unrealistic black and white, no less. My point is that if you've been turned off to MadWorld because of how violent it looks, I suggest you play it first before you pass judgment. The violence in the game is almost as tame as the mass murders that Mario commits against turtles in his titles. It's honestly not a game that I would be worried about showing to children, no more than I would be worried about showing them an Itchy and Scratchy cartoon.

Letting kids listen to profusely profane sound-scape of MadWorld is a different story. The music is mostly hip-hop, with lyrics written specifically for the game, which means a whole lot of talk about Jack being a chainsaw-wielding maniac. Louder and more attention-grabbing are the game's two comedic "announcers," voiced by Greg Proops (Whose Line is it Anyway?) and John DiMaggio (Futurama, Gears of War). With the music and the sportscaster-style comedy, the game really feels like some MTV reality show of the future, where instead of seeing people compete for prizes by eating bugs and voting each other off, they fight to the death with chainsaws and kill each other off.

It's all extremely well done ... technically speaking. The music is fresh and original, and Proops and DiMaggio are both convincing and likable in their roles. The problems comes from all the stupid, sometimes abrasive stuff they actually say. For the most part, the catchy hooks really grew on me, but only after I started to block out the lyrics (which feature such deep thoughts as "Ya'll ready to fly? Y'all ready to die?" and "I play the hottest shit with a nine strapped to my hip"). The commentary is a different story. So much of it just wasn't funny to me at all. I don't want to even start getting into why; this is a game review, after all, not a comedy critique. Still, you should know that in my experience, MadWorld the game and MadWorld the soundtrack are two undeniably connected, but very different, creative entities -- and just because you like one doesn't mean you'll like the other. Luckily, you can turn off the commentary and soundtrack whenever you want, so if the game's sound doesn't work for you, it's easily silenced.

Okay, enough about that; let's talk about gameplay. Despite the Wii's relatively small array of face buttons, MadWorld provides the player with quite a few attacks, more so than you'd get in many fighting games. Most of Jack's basic attacks are done with a simple press of the A button, but as you progress through the game, you'll need to rely more and more on the motion-controlled chainsaw moves. You can also juggle opponents, dash attack them, clear them out with a massive backhand, or dodge with a shake of the Nunchuk and then quickly counter-attack with a tap of the A button. It takes a little while to learn what all the moves do and what they're good for, but actually pulling them off takes very little practice. Learning the more complicated combos and how to actually use them, that's something else. 

Remember how I said that the first half hour of MadWorld was sort of a letdown? Well, most of that has to do with the fact that in the first area of the game, the "city" levels, most of the enemies are complete pushovers. It seems like Platinum thought that starting MadWorld by permitting players to learn to kill at their leisure would help ease them into this very strange game, and for the most part, they were right. I'm glad the game isn't too hard at first, especially since almost none of the skills I've acquired over my years of gaming apply to MadWorld. Not only does MadWorld control like no other game on the market, it requires you to think like no other game on the market. This isn't a game about fighting, it's a game about killing; and not just for survival. It's a game about killing for the entertainment of others.

The trick to MadWorld is that you can't progress further into the game until you've racked up enough points, and you only get big points by getting creative. You can kill as many guys as you want, but they'll just respawn. Kill a guy with a simple chainsaw attack, and you'll get something like 1,000 points, and two more guys will take his place. Slam a barrel over a guy, jam three street signs into his head, then throw him into a meat grinder, and you'll get five to ten times as many points, and will maybe get to progress to the next part of the level. Pulling off these more complicated kills involves quick thinking, knowledge of your environment, control over your character, and the ability to maneuver around the enemies surrounding you without getting killed yourself.

Jack can't block, and he doesn't take damage all that well either, so if you do let your enemies get to you, you will die. This goes double for your encounters with the game's many bosses and mid-bosses (twenty in total), who can often kill you in one or two hits. I found the game's mid-bosses to be especially lethal, as they tend to attack you while you're with regular enemies at the same time. Remember that Grim Reaper on roller blades I was telling you about? Well, if you get grabbed by a regular enemy while he's around, he'll come up and decapitate you in one hit, Dr. Salvador-style. Events like that will quickly teach you that no matter how well you think you're doing in MadWorld, letting your guard down for even a second can mean instant death. 

On the lighter side are the game's "Bloodbath Challenges" hosted by the extremely Dolemite-esque pimp "Black Baron," who is brutally murdered before every event. These are simplified, gimmicky murder games that are generally easier than the rest of the levels, and are played mostly for points. Examples include running over as many aliens with a motorcycle as you can in three minutes, using a golf club to knock zombie heads into hovering targets, and tossing ninjas onto giant, spiked billboards of "sexy ladies." These diversions, as well as the game's occasional platforming elements, are all generally well done, and do a lot to both mix things up and lighten the mood. 

Sadly, the Bloodbath Challenges are also a part of the game's weakest element: its multiplayer mode. Basically, all the mode offers is a chance to play Bloodbath Challenges against another person via split-screen. It's a fine start, but most of the challenges just aren't fun enough to warrant playing outside of the context of the main game. Actually, the most fun thing about MadWorld's multiplayer is that it gives you the opportunity to try all your hard-learned killing techniques out on your friends, and vice versa. You don't get points for ignoring the challenge in favor of fighting your friends, but it sure is nice to have the option. In the end, though, it really is a double-edged sword. Giving us just a taste of how cool a full-on versus mode and/or a co-op campaign mode would be just makes MadWorld's multiplayer seem even more lame by comparison. 

The only other real complaint I have about the game is the difficulty progression. When it comes to the game's main levels, Platinum did a great job at forcing me to gradually improve my skills and learn new strategies in order to progress. The same can't be said for the game's boss battles. The first nine bosses require an ever-increasing level of mastery to defeat, but from there, the remaining four bosses are way too easy. They are still really cool (especially for God Hand fans who are looking for a reference or two), but considering all the skills you've learned by that time in the game, these guys needed to be tougher. 

MadWorld is also a little on the short side. The in-game timer told me I beat the game in four hours, but being the paranoid jerk that I am, I actually timed my play-through of the game on a separate clock. From start to finish, I was done in just over seven hours. The game only records and tallies the time it takes you to start and finish a level; it doesn't record time spent watching cinemas, or any times you played the game and didn't complete that level (due to death or reset). Seven hours isn't terrible, but it's not great.

There is stuff you can only get after you win the game, like two new weapons, as well as "hard mode." This actually does a lot to prolong the experience, but only if you really enjoyed playing MadWorld in the first place like I did. After beating the game once, I went back immediately to try out the new weapons and take on hard mode, which led to at least an hour of additional play before turning the game off and starting this review. There are also a series of level specific "Deathwatch Challenges" I've yet to successfully complete, most of which involve killing tough mid-bosses in really difficult ways, or finding hidden stuff in the environment and using it to murder people. That's nice and all, but even if these bonuses were absent, I'd still be playing MadWorld again, just to try to beat my high score and re-experience all the awesome boss fights.

I give the game an...

Score: 8.5 -- Great (8s are impressive efforts with a few noticeable problems holding them back. Won't astound everyone, but is worth your time and cash.)

Buy It!

Anthony Burch

Here is my main problem with MadWorld: it's only four hours long, yet it still manages to get repetitive. I absolutely adore the fluid controls (Jack's chainsaw is almost as fun as Travis Touchdown's beam katana), and I really dig the idea of a combo-centric beat-'em-up, but MadWorld simply doesn't show the player enough new or interesting things to justify even its incredibly meager running time.

In the first few levels of the game, I got most of my points by jamming signs through people's heads, then shoving barrels on top of them, then impaling them on a wall of spikes. In the last few levels of the game, I got most of my points by jamming signs through people's heads, then shoving barrels on top of them, then throwing them into an active jet engine. For a game whose premise relies primarily on finding new and inventive ways to combo-kill baddies, MadWorld's environments are bizarrely unimaginative most of the time. Don't get me wrong -- it's insanely fun to chainsaw and meat-grind your way through the first few levels, but after less than an hour of play one finds it difficult not to wonder, "...Wait, this is IT?" Each level has one or two little kill areas that stand out amongst the crowd (the bumpers in the Vegas level are my personal favorite), but the vast majority of the time, the environments suggest the exact same strategy: punch a bad guy, shove poles into him, then throw him into something made of knives/spikes/fire. I've read many gamers and reviewers suggest that MadWorld is easier to swallow if you play it in very short bursts over a period of days, and this repetitive core gameplay seems to be the reason for such a widespread strategy. Granted, that's how I played the game, and I still found myself getting sick of poles and barrels and spikes by the fourth hour. 

The game's best moments come in the form of the Bloodbath Challenges, which exhibit a degree of cleverness and imagination so sorely missing from the regular gameplay. You'll shake up soda bottles and force them into baddies' mouths to send them rocketing into the distance. You'll play golf using human heads. You'll perform many varied and clever activities, totally different in gameplay terms but united by MadWorld's core conceit of over-the-top ultraviolence. By the end of the game, I found myself looking forward to the Bloodbath Challenges more so than any other part of the gameplay, considering the bosses are just as easy and repetitive as the regular grunts and the story is interesting enough to pay attention to for a while, but ultimately kind of irrelevant. 

Unlike Jon, though, I did quite enjoy the announcer commentary, in spite of myself. Even though Proops and DiMaggio throw out lowest-common-denominator penis and ex-wife jokes throughout literally the entire game, their delivery is so damned good that I honestly found it hard not to laugh every time DiMaggio angrily threatened to kill Proops for making a bad pun. I actually found myself turning the music and sound effects down just so I could hear more of the dick joke-filled commentary. 

MadWorld is an odd beast. Its violence and core controls are remarkably pleasing on a visceral level and its sense of humor is so startlingly unpretentious that it's difficult not to admire, but its over-the-top premise is rarely exploited to its fullest potential. The Bloodbath Challenges exhibit a few brief flashes of genius and the combo-killing is fun enough to maintain interest for a couple of hours, but MadWorld frankly isn't worth the $50 asking price considering how short and repetitive it is. It's unquestionably a must-rent for any Wii owner above the age of eleven, though.

Score: 6.5 -- Alright (6s may be slightly above average or simply inoffensive. Fans of the genre should enjoy them a bit, but a fair few will be left unfulfilled.)

Rent It!

Overall Score: 7.5 -- Good (7s are solid games that definitely have an audience. Might lack replay value, could be too short or there are some hard-to-ignore faults, but the experience is fun.)


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mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 18:05
mix
Nice stuff! This is a price drop buy for me :)
garison's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 18:06
garison
I want to get this game so bad!
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 18:07
Chronic Logic
I think that the monochrome black and white graphics is nauseating. I wish they had some colors besides red and shades of grey.
Diverse's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 18:07
Diverse
Same here mix. I canceled my pre-order and decided to just wait it out.
EternalDeathSlayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 18:08
EternalDeathSlayer
Haha. I was just saying I bet the game isn't worth 50 bucks yesterday.

Thanks, Anthony. I don't have to feel stupid now.

Do I?
Magnalon's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 18:11
Magnalon
I think a 6.5 is a bit harsh based on what I've seen of it, and everything I can gather from what's in the game. I still need to play it, but it looks like exactly an 8.5. Nice reviews though!

So anyone who's played both this and God Hand, I want a verdict - Is MadWorld God Hand 2.0?
Daxelman's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 18:13
Daxelman
I wanna play this, and watch Crank: High Voltage, at the same time.

That's how fun is really represented.
RonBurgandy2010's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 18:14
RonBurgandy2010
4 hours? Jesus, this is a rent. Or a <$20 buy.
wardrox's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 18:16
wardrox
Oh look, another FPS that Anthony Burch hates... wait, some thing's not right here.
Askherserenity's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 18:16
Askherserenity
@EternalDeathSlayer
You probably would've thought it was worth it if you would've bought it though. The game is pretty fun :D
RonBurgandy2010's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 18:16
RonBurgandy2010
Speaking of God Hand, I really don't get why it's so loved. Sure it's funny and the combo builder is cool, but the game overall is awful. The controls suck, the camera was worse, and the levels were fucking horrendous.
Face's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 18:18
Face
I really want to get this now.
seigfreid's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 18:18
seigfreid
I really want this game.
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 18:22
Jonathan Holmes
@ EDS- You don't. :)

@ Magnalon- MadWorld is not God Hand 2.0. It shares a lot more in common with Dead Rising (360) than anything else.

At first, I was disappointed with that, but is didn't take long for me to love the game for what it is.

@ RonB- About game length; does it really matter in the long run if a game takes eight hours or four hours to beat, as long as the game entertained you enough that you'll be playing it again and again for the rest of your life (or at least, the next few years?

I tend to measure the value of a game not in the length it takes to complete, but the length of time I spend thinking about it after I've beaten it, and how much I plan on playing it again.

Also, it took me a little seven hours to beat MadWorld. Anthony is too good at videogames for his own good. I doubt the average person could beat the game as fast as he did.

He also beat Bit.Trip Beat the first day he got it, which is pretty much the most insane thing ever.
Askherserenity's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 18:23
Askherserenity
I dont think its actually four hours...And this game is supposed to be an arcade type of game...They let you play the stages over to beat your original score and stuff, its not Devil May Cry. I doubt you can beat the game in four hours and get a high score at all.
Overcrowd's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 18:24
Overcrowd
*courtesy. =P


Good review. I don't agree with Anthony though (I found it didn't get repetitive at all even with multiple playthroughs).
AngelsDontBurn's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 18:25
AngelsDontBurn
Honestly I think both scores are harsh. People have always been very love/hate with beat 'em ups. Well and that's pretty much what this is. The camera can be a tad awkward at times, but after playing the game for awhile, it doesn't bug you as half as you would expect it to. I love the game and I think it's awesome. I haven't completed it yet and I'm glad I haven't. If you love beat 'em ups. Pick it up ASAP. If you get tired of them quick, price drop buy it.
Magnalon's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 18:29
Magnalon
Regarding the replay value, giving you nothing for beating it other than playing mini-games with 1 friend kind of sucks compared to any action game. For example: RE5 gave you Mercs, online play, tons of unlocks, good achievements, and Pro mode was really hard. If MadWorld was 4 hours in a normal playthrough, I wouldn't care: I do care that there isn't any extra content.

With action games being my #1 genre, I get really disappointed when there's not much reason to come back other than 1 additional difficulty. Ninja Gaiden Black had the right idea: harder difficulties actually change enemy models to make it feel different; you want to S rank every level (like MadWorld); you get challenge rooms after beating the game.

@Holmes
Thanks a ton for that weigh in. I've just heard that from a number of people and I wanted to get someone's opinion on it. Did you like God Hand, by the way?
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 18:31
Jonathan Holmes
ADB- You really thought my score was harsh?

Awesome!

And after you beat the game, tell me what you think. I was leaning on giving the game a 9.0 until the last couple levels. Like I said in the review, the game actually gets easier towards the end, which is sort of a bummer.
Askherserenity's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 18:33
Askherserenity
And the game itself deducts points if you keep doing the same thing over and over again, so I don't know how you can do any good at all if you keep killing guys by just shoving poles into them. I played the game for about two hours and it was great fun. I sucked ass, most of the scores I got were the lowest possible you can get. Definitely buying this.
AudioTerror's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 18:33
AudioTerror
There are actually a lot of different combos you can string together in the game. Also, there are well hidden areas in the game with extra items, and things to kill people with. You're given up to 30 minutes per level, and I highly reccomend taking your time and exploring.

I <3 this game.
Askherserenity's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 18:36
Askherserenity
They should have let us play as the pimp (forgot his name) if you beat the game on hard mode :'[
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 18:37
Holyetheline
Amazing review, Holmes! I loved how much you had to say.
CALkulon's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 18:37
CALkulon
It's on my Lovefilm list.

Cannotfuckingwait!
AngelsDontBurn's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 18:40
AngelsDontBurn
@Jonathan: No! 8.5 sounds good! I was referring to the 6.5 score. I was happy with yours. My apologies, it's been a long day. :( I honestly felt the game deserves no lower than an 8 though. That's just me. :)
psycho terror2's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 18:40
psycho terror2
@ronb

i liked godhand because it was fun. it felt like it was half finished, but i didn't care because i was enjoying myself. IMO it's a great exmple of a game that's more than just the sum of it's parts.

as for madworld, i don't understand why it's a wii exclusive. it's good to see adult games on a generally kiddie oriented console, but i can't help but think it would sell better on any other platform. ah well, if it does see a 360 release i will definitely pick it up.
AngelsDontBurn's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 18:41
AngelsDontBurn
@Holmes: I didn't think your score was harsh! I'm just a tard and looked at the wrong score. Long day. :\ My bad! I was referring to the 6.5 score! I honestly felt the game deserves an 8 at the lowest. But, that's just me. :)

I'm pretty close to finishing it though and I see what you're saying. But I'd be lying if I didn't say I want another one ASAP. :)
AngelsDontBurn's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 18:42
AngelsDontBurn
Ahh and I double posted? Sorry about the one before the last one. I thought it didn't make it through. Wow thanks for making me look like a tard Dtoid. Lol.
EggmaniMN's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 18:43
EggmaniMN
I can't agree with that second review at all.

I believe the score attack, higher difficulty and the challenges add plenty of replay value into the game and easily make it worth the money. The soundtrack was fantastic, finding killing combos was a ton of fun, the voice acting was good, the story was surprisingly good, the controls worked great, and the commentary was awesome.

I've had far more fun with MadWorld than I have with any other release over probably the last six months.
RonBurgandy2010's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 18:52
RonBurgandy2010
@JHolmes
Well I value length when I'm looking at I game I'm on the fence about buying, which is nearly any game I'm interested in, I'm very cheap. I've bought plenty of games that offered a ridiculous amount of entertainment. It's just that you can't know ahead of time if you will want to play it over and over and over (except for special cases). I may love this game, or I may have fun with it and never feel like going back to it. I really don't feel like spending $50 on a gamble.
Dexter345's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 18:57
Dexter345
I'll grab it when it goes down ten or twenty bucks.
Hiltz's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 19:01
Hiltz
While I feel that both reviews reveal legitimate comments, I can't agree wit hthe scoring of the second review.

Yes, MadWorld suffers from some technical issues and the gameplay length and replay value are reasonable concerns and the multiplay does feel tacked-on, but a game of this quality and how unique, cool and fun it is deserves a better score than a 6.5 in my opinion.
Guagloves's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 19:03
Guagloves
@Ron
I realize that the reviewers said that the game is only 4 hours, but I have played the game for that amount of time already even though the in game clock says 2 hours, the Wii keep track of time played. You won't get through everything on your first try either. At least, I didn't. I bought the game a week ago and don't regret my purchase. The look is great and the controls and music are awesome.
Anthony Burch's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 19:06
Anthony Burch
Firstly: this game is not a beatemup. The only thing it shares in common with beatemups is that you punch lots of people -- the focus is on combo-torturing-and-killing people to get a lot of points where in beatemups the focus is typically on survival and the defeat of enemies as an end unto themselves.

Secondly: I'd argue that the score system on its own doesn't lend itself to replay if all the levels are the same. I felt like I WAS replaying the same levels by the time I got to the last few levels, where in something like, say, We <3 Katamari I had absolutely no qualms about playing the entire game three or four times because the individual levels were so different and rewarding on their on merits.
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 19:11
Jonathan Holmes
Oh snap!

Did I just get served by the Rev?
Saint Demon's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 19:13
Saint Demon
I'm glad you didn't too. But great review non the less. I've been curious about this game and its potentiales for awhile. Still though it probably wouldn't be a bad thing to have int he collection. I wonder if a multiplayer aspect would make it better.
hysterisch's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 19:14
hysterisch
While I agree that the game did tend to be repetative, something about doing combo kills was just downright satifying, no matter how many times it was done. The announcer dialog I though was great, but I think I heard "I'm gonna get you , mother f**ker!" from the enemies one too many times in just the first level alone. Great job on the reviews.
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 19:21
Jonathan Holmes
@ Saint Demon- Sorry for not getting more into multi-player in the review.

To answer your question, MadWorld with two people is a lot like MadWorld with one person; you'll get as much out of it as you put into it. If you play the challenges straight up, you'll likely get bored of them fairly quickly, but if you're playing with someone that likes to break the rules, you can really make your own game out of it. You can kill each other as well as your enemies, which can lead to a lot of fun.
ParaParaKing's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 19:23
ParaParaKing
I kinda lost interest in MadWorld after the first few levels, because everything just repeated itself.

Also the bike riding sucked.
Hiltz's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 19:25
Hiltz
I agree that MadWorld is not a beat-em up. I suppose it can be considered to be an action game like No More Heroes is.

A game like GodHand has enemies that exist to challenge the skill of the player whereas, MadWorld's enemies exist to simply be killed in creative and brutal ways. That's the focus of MadWorld's gameplay. Although, the bosses and the few tougher opponents are challenging enough even on normal mode and can easily kill you if you are not careful and often times, it is not because of enemies taking cheap shots.
Out of all of the levels, the second to last level featured the most challenging enemies in my opinion.

I've beaten the game 11 times now and still love it to death despite the repetitiveness of the gameplay and relatively short length and the technical flaws of the game's camera and lock-on system.

The game doesn't take that long to finish mainly due to the quick flow of the combat and the pacing of the levels. Unlike in No More Heroes, MadWorld actually does does something I appreciated; it cut out the bull shit parts. You know, the unnecessary and typically less enjoyable ways to extend the gameplay length.(like being forced to earn money by doing boring jobs over and over again).

Speed runners can easily beat the game in 2-3 hours but it will probably take the average gamer 4-5 hours to finish. OF course, like Destructoid mentions in its review, the game does not include the time of your deaths and the cut scenes.
thebza's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 19:34
thebza
guess it wasn't indie enough for anthony...

i give mad world a solid 8.5 as well. it's FUN and looks & controls great, and that's what games are supposed to be about, not contemplating shit like "the internal psyche of an artillery officer who becomes a parent and grows old". that doesn't sound like "fun" to me.
Hiltz's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 19:41
Hiltz
I don't think the motorcycle sections sucked but they were the weakest part of the game despite attempting to add variety to the main gameplay. Looking back, the driving parts worn out their welcome because each one was basically the same.

The driving sections tend to last for quite a while but they're weren't that many of them. There's only 3 ways to kill enemies during this time (chain saw attack, grab & throw them out of their vehicle or crash their vehicle). Other than that, all you do is drive forward, use the boost and occasionally jump off ramps.

As for the combat itself, MadWorld's gameplay is repetitive and simplistic despite the amount of ways offered to kill enemies via environmental hazards, pick-up items and locker items. On the bright side, combat is solid, satisfying and addictive. Killing one enemy (or multiple enemies at one time even) after another is done in a fluid and quick manner, perhaps to where it is similar to No More Heroes.
AKK's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 20:21
AKK
How did Anthony give NMH a 9.0 and this a 6.5, saying the former was not repetitive, but this is?

That's fucking retarded. NMH is way more repetitive than this is (although neither of them ever actually get repetitive).

Please don't rent Madworld. Please buy it. If you don't, fucking retards like Peter Wanat will continue to say that good third party games can't succeed on the Wii.

I agree that the last few levels are not quite as brilliant, but it brought my mental score from a 10 to a 9.5. There are flaws, but they are completely acceptable in context with the fucking awesome that the game is.

God I love this game. I'm not sure where I place it in terms of No More Heroes. NMH definitely had better bosses and a better story, but Madworld had a guy with a chainsaw on his arm....

Bah. They're both so awesome.
Danger Mouse's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 20:32
Danger Mouse
So if I'm trying to choose between MadWorld and Deadly Creatures...which one should I go with? Hmm...
DinnertimeNinja's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 20:34
DinnertimeNinja
I loved God Hand and I didn't know this was made by those guys.

Sadly, even without playing the game, you guys have confirmed everything I thought this game would be. Namely, a good rental, but not worth the full price of admission.

I cleared EVERYTHING in God Hand (hardest difficulty, all Fighting Ring challenges etc.) so I don't think this game would last more than 4 hours for me, with maybe another 4 for hard mode. Perfect amount of game to spend playing co-op at my friend's place over a rental period.
JT706's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 20:38
JT706
I'll admit the gameplay is repetitive, but it never stops being satisfying. Slamming some poor chump against a spile wall just never gets old.
Monodi's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 20:43
Monodi
@Wardrox

yeah, its not an FPS
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 20:49
Jonathan Holmes
@ Dinnertime- I'm not half bad at God Hand either, but I still got killed quite a few times in Madworld. The same might happen to you.

Even if it doesn't, you might end up loving MadWorld enough to play it to death, just like you did with God Hand.

I hope you do rent it and find out for yourself. If you do, let me know what you think.

@ AKK- I can't speak for Anthony, but I'm guessing that he just felt more of a connection with NMH. I could see why he does, but I definitely don't share his opinion.
Namakubi's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 21:12
Namakubi
Don't agree AT ALL about the soundtrack and play by play commentary. The hip-hop soundtrack is fantastic if you actually listen to it on your own, the lyrics are funny and are totally tailored to each level they're for. Greg proops and John Dimaggio's commentary for this game, while sometimes a mixed bag, can also come up with some of the funniest riffs and ad-libs EVER heard in a game. Easily an early contender for me for game of the year.
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2009 21:26
Tubatic
@Danger Mouse

You'll get the same amount of mileage on your first play through for each, I reckon. Deadly Creatures was very solid, and runs the similar dramatic waggle play book as Madworld/No More Heroes. Deadly Creatures, I feel, has about 0 replay value, save for REALLY wanting to collect things, if you're into that sort of thing. That said, its a refreshingly solid and unique Wii experience.

I'd go with Madworld for a buy, Deadly Creatures for a definite must play at rental/on the cheap.
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