I'll wait for the inevitable Dynasty Warriors 7.
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11/10
I haven't gotten a chance to play this one yet but I plan on doing so soon. I want to see how it compares to my new favorite in the series, Dynasty Warrior Gundam.
But that was Heretic saying that, so I knew I wouldn't like this.
I was a little taken back by all of the changes at first, but after playing an embarassing amount of Dynasty Warriors 6 this weekend, I learned that it has everything I love.
While I'm disappointed with the lack of characters, I feel that this game was the foundation for the many sequels we're bound to see in the future. They will continue to pack in as much content in the future, which allows me to forgive the somewhat lacking content this time around.
What I am most interested about, is whether or not a lot of the changes will carry over to the next installment. Will the Renbu system be the new thing, or will we see it modified into the more traditional control scheme we're used to? Also, characters like Xhahou Dun and Zhang Fe are almost unplayable for those who were fans of them before. Will the fan's outcries convince Koei to revert them back to their former selves? One can only hope.
Lastly, as I was playing the battle of Chi Bi this afternoon, I witnessed Zhang Fe's vigor increased as the boats caught on fire. Subtle things like that make Dynasty Warriors a great series.
Admittedly, you probably wouldn't vastly NOTICE inconsitencies in a DW game.
And besides, IT HAS LU BU, 11/10!
I actually thought that DW3 was one of the worst ones in the series (better than DW2 at least). To me, the DW series gets better with each sequel, so IMO, the best DW right now is DW5. That's why I was hoping DW6 would follow this and become the best DW yet.
Just kidding, a very nicely written review, Jim. It's nice to be able to see that you're able to look at this objectively and produce a good explanation of what it's all about. I don't know if I'm going to pick up Dw6 (I still have to finish 5), but it at least sounds worth a rental, at worst.
I agree with you that the Musou modes are better this time around. The stories are much easier to follow, and there is a suprising amount of drama that makes for far more engaging and satisfying stories. In addition, the music (aside from the metal riffs, which are always incredible) is simply beautiful.
I've also been wondering what Koei is going to do with additional content. DLC seems like the most logic thing to do in this day, but you never know. I really hope my library doesn't explode this generation with countless expansions.
I'm in a pickle guys, I can either buy this, or new clothes. The Destructoid in me says that's a stupid question...But I deprerately need new clothes!
No items, but the skill tree makes up for it. You still have to find weapons (you still find better ones on a higher difficulty) and now you can find horses. Yea, horses. You can then level up said horses, which is kind of fun. The only downside is that they cap at level 5. =(
I am all for hack and slash games (Ninja Gaiden, Devil May Cry, etc) but when you are playing with stupid AI on the screen like on Dynasty Warriors, it is incredibly boring.
I will play Dynasty Warriors 6 reguardless to rate it but I have my doubts already, I really hope it does show signs of hope for this series because it was really fun in the day before rehash after rehash kept coming out... hmm sounds like a certain Fantasy series doesn't it?
Personally I think it's a step in the right direction, one that can be built on with future iterations. For a series that rarely changes, this game is practically a revolution. o_O
The game = EMO.
If not for Jansen id want to whip its ass like those brooding imps in my city.."My life's so bleak and full of darkness"..fuck off!
Oh where was i, Good review guys!
Oh, except that I really like that there are fewer characters able to go through Musou mode because they took time to make each character's story EPIC. There is a cutscene before every battle, and they really went to lengths to make the story come to life during the stages as well (conversations that are character specific, like Cao Cao talking with Guan Yu).
I feel that this is really a great way to bring life back into the story, even if it's not 100% accurate. From here on out, they'll just be able to add more characters to it. But, for lack of characters, I really feel that the content was worth it.
PS- I fought against Zhang Laio earlier, and it lloks like they gave him Pang De's moveset, as he has 2 halberds. I'll have to unlock him to see.
J/K. Good honest review. I like how each stage has extra achievements so you kind of get penalized if you just go officer hunting like in previous games.
And I also hate how no matter how high of a level I am I can get my ass kicked by Cao Cao because he freezes me and my allies are too stupid to attack him.
Pros
1. Game runs a bit faster. Don't get me wrong there is still some lag but when there isn't it seems faster. I guess that's because its made for this hardware and not some conversion.
2. When reviewing a battle and choosing your horse and weapons it is preloading the level. Thought it was a nice touch.
3. To add to the whole RPG leveling thing each level has bonus targets to achieve that add extra exp (kill Lu Bu +1000)
4. You get horses (saddles) like weapons now as drops.
5. Horses level up now too and can get bonus' like ice attacks and other helpful bonus'.
6. You can call your horse and he will run to you..... magically..... really magical. Hey, at least he finds you!
7. AI is a bit better but thats not saying much.
8. Ladders on a siege. Way nice.
9. Swimming. Its a hoot! I love it when I accidentally knock a general into the water. Loss of xp but a NICE tag out.
10. A challenge mini game mode that while somewhat interesting took me 30 min to master all of them. Good first try.
11. Every character has "specials" now that add a bit more. You pick up a skill book and unleash it when your ready. Sun Shang has a volley of arrows. Others have running attack speed. Each enemy you kill with it drops extra xp and bosses drop double xp.
12. Grapples! Way cool. Hold guard and attack with regular or special to watch some cool moves.
13. There seems to be a bit of more AI to the main generals too. I was on a map where the primary guy on my team took the path I DIDN'T take. Got irritating sometimes cause he was a pansy but I see the beauty in the AI.
7.5/10 but still love DW6!
Still a good game, still much better if you are capable of a social relationship (multiplayer). Playing this til 7/Orochi Warriors 2.
Not that I'm against Jim reviewing it, but I would also like to read the opinion of another person, preferably from someone who is new to the franchise or has grown tired of it.
It seems that the majority of Musou fans in America feel the same way about the changes. I wonder how Japan felt about them.
I really hope Koei goes back to everything that worked so well before. =(
1: Orchist asked to do counterpoint on the Lost Odyssey review.
2: We attach multiple editors to reviews as and when possible/applicable. We can't secure review copies for everyone on staff, and I wouldn't expect this game to have been bought by anyone else on the Dtoid editorial team.
3: At least I was critical of it. :-D
I realized that after buying DW4 after own DW3, I traded both in and haven't both another Koei game since hoping that any real fan DW would realize that giving you money continually for the same product is like buying madden year after year and wondering why the game isn't any better then the previous one.
My advice buy BladeStorm:100 Years war, if you going to reward them with your money for something at least let it be for them doing something different.
Try to take that online. Multiply that effect by a thousand because one of the player's internet speeds is slightly slower than the other's. Game would be just fucking AWFUL.
Yet another case of people complaining about a game not having something when having it would be a big problem.
I <3 this game so much. Even if they wrecked Guan Ping and Zhang He by giving them shitty unoriginal weapons. I <3 Yaun Shao and Lu Xun though, and my main man Gan Ning is more beastly than ever. Fuck yeah, True Speed!
I think they improved drastically on the gameplay; nothing groundbreaking, but a lot of nice additions to make it worthwhile.
The game takes a total dive with the characters though; trimming them down, and discarding unique weapons for a load of boring swords and spears. The only character I feel that got a good improvement was Sun Shang (minus clown outfit).

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