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Destructoid Exclusive: Rock Axe, the guitar controller to end 'em all

11:53 PM on 07.13.2008, Brad Rice 32 comments

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Let's face it: the Guitar Hero controller is not the ideal item for the game. It'd be nice to hold a full-sized guitar in your hands. We've seen people build custom controllers and put them on eBay, but those were one-off deals, and usually rather expensive.

So, in this pre-E3 rush, I got a call to head up to Newark to check out something special: Rock Axe, a mass-market wireless guitar controller for Guitar Hero and Rock Band that has a full-wood body. Not a limited-edition item -- something that's going to be on most major shelves across the country.

I think you know what's going to be after the jump.

Now, I have to admit, I was pretty skeptical when I went up. Not for any specific reason other than my general distrust of 3rd party controllers. Nonetheless, Robert and Richard of Ashley International pulled out the controller, and at first sight, I was pleased with what I saw. It looks and feels like it's a real guitar, mainly because it is.

The guys at Ashley Intl. make guitars. You usually see them in Best Buy, Wal-Mart, and other major retailers, selling electric and acoustic guitars. About six months ago, they started this project and this is the fruits of their labor. What they brought was a prototype model of the guitar, and I'd be the first games journalist to try it out. Of course, I have to be the worst Guitar Hero player on staff.

Putting the guitar on, the weight was a welcome addition. With a solid wood body, after a few minutes of playing the game, the guitar felt even more natural than the original Guitar Hero controller. It feels silly to say this, but the weight of the guitar makes playing all the more enjoyable and serious -- it added another element of realism that had been previously missing.

The fret board was only a preliminary design, but nailed all the important details. During play, the buttons still let out an audible click whenever pressed, but it wasn't as loud as the original controller -- sitting five feet away or so, I couldn't hear the buttons. So, if I'm in the next room, I won't hear constant button-clicking, followed by a string of curses as Necros tries to get a five-star on Freebird for every difficulty -- I'll just hear the string of curses.

The actual design of the buttons is one of the things that'll be changed. For this model, they're just laid out like that for testing purposes. Once it goes back to redesign, they'll widen out the buttons so they'll nearly be touching, just like the standard controller.

 

Down at the body of the guitar, there was some question of how to place everything. On one hand, you want to make the guitar as easy and natural to use, but at the same time, you want to make the guitar look as much like a Stratocaster as possible. So, you can see the three push buttons (On/Off, Start, and Select) that are made to look like the volume and tone knobs, along with inserting the bridge. The strum bar is of a sturdier build than the standard plastic, and works like a charm. "If you turn it sideways, it might as well be a pickup," said Rob. Again, everything down here works just like a normal Guitar Hero controller -- the only complaint I had on this pre-production prototype was that the whammy bar needed to be tightened up some, which is going into their next round of improvements. 

It might be a little heady for me to say this, but I can't imagine playing Guitar Hero or Rock Band with something more realistic than what we have here with the Rock Axe. I went back to playing Guitar Hero with my regular controller, and it felt rather awkward. If you play Guitar Hero or Rock Band at all, you need to pick this up. It'll make the experience all the more fun, and you'll be the cool kid on the block once again.

Now that I've wrapped up my impressions, here are a few questions regarding Rock Axe, answered by Robert and Richard:

When is this coming out, and how much will it cost?

We're expecting to see the guitar hit shelves in October for the PS2/PS3, with versions for the Xbox 360 and Wii to follow. So you'll see it on the shelves before Christmas time. The price will be somewhere in the $100 to $150 range. You'll see some nice deals in stores, I can tell you that.

Isn't that a little soon?

There's no one to go consult with. We own the factories, we make the designs, and so when we want to get something done, we just head back over and tell someone to change it. We cut out a lot of the production and planning time thanks to that.

What are your future plans for the Rock Axe?

Besides the Stratocaster, we're also planning to put out a Les Paul version of our guitar. We're hoping to build the brand into a trustworthy name for music videogames. Our company makes guitars, violins, and all sorts of instruments. With help and feedback from the gaming community, we want to bring the same quality products to them.


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king3vbo's Avatar
king3vbo at 07/14/2008 00:04
That is quite tasty
XivGNP's Avatar
XivGNP at 07/14/2008 00:07
WOW pimptastic. I would vurry much like to try this out. Dunno why it'd have a spot to throw strings onto it, but i assume it's just because it's the prototype.
Y0j1mb0's Avatar
Y0j1mb0 at 07/14/2008 00:10
LMAO @ Necros' Avatar..that shit just doesn't get old man!


Also, swanky guitar.
Toneman's Avatar
Toneman at 07/14/2008 00:10
Sweet axe bro!
T-rav's Avatar
T-rav at 07/14/2008 00:14
"There's no one to go consult with. We own the factories, we make the designs".

Keeping 'The Man' out of the equation, heh.
Cheeburga's Avatar
Cheeburga at 07/14/2008 00:22
We can do that, we are the factory.
-PL-'s Avatar
-PL- at 07/14/2008 00:38
It would be nicer if it had some strings.

*oooooh*

Yeah. I went there.
Usedtabe's Avatar
Usedtabe at 07/14/2008 00:42
No thanks. The reason I like the guitar hero guitars is becuase of how small they are. Much easier to manage. I own 5 real guitars, and have no desire to use one as an interface for a game due to their weight. I guess if you don't play a real guitar and actually use these games as a fantasy substitute, this would be nice. I just play the games because they're fun as hell.
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Zerozaki Ishiki at 07/14/2008 00:48
They really need to make the buttons set into the fret bar, like the Rock Band ones. The raised buttons on the Guitar Hero ones are unplayable.
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The-Excel at 07/14/2008 00:52
"It feels silly to say this, but the weight of the guitar makes playing all the more enjoyable and serious -- it added another element of realism that had been previously missing."
There is nothing silly about demanding the weight of an actual guitar for a video game that simulates guitar-playing. If you aren't aware, some import players drop hundreds of dollars for specialized arcade-style equipment to play a certain type of music game, even if they own only a few titles for it.
Misanthrope's Avatar
Misanthrope at 07/14/2008 00:53
At least they used a truly crap strat knock off ( and strats already sucks all kinds of balls )
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Misanthrope at 07/14/2008 00:58
@Usedtabe: I own one of the heaviest guitars you can find ( a B.C. Rich warlock, a very early 90s model at that ) and weights usually as much as twice as a Les Paul and I get tired of standing up way before I get tired of the strap.

I seriously think you are one of the few people ive ever heard complaining about the weight of an actual guitar.
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emotoaster at 07/14/2008 01:06
DO WANT. But not the $100 to 150 price tag. Sorry but I would rather just get a shitty real guitar and try to make shitty music with it than drop that much on a fake guitar.
-PL-'s Avatar
-PL- at 07/14/2008 01:23
Don't get me wrong, I love Guitar Hero, but GH simulates guitar-playing about as much as GTA simulates murdering people.
Misanthrope's Avatar
Misanthrope at 07/14/2008 01:51
@emotoaster: Doesn't gets much shittier than squirrel.
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E3 Intern Bitch 2008 at 07/14/2008 01:56
This looks awesome, but I've already got the two guitars for Rock Band, and I can't really afford another one at this price. =(
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Stahlbrand at 07/14/2008 02:19
Hmm, they better arrange to set up in-store demos. Nothing would sell these things faster than people actually being able to get a grip on them in person.

Would I buy one? Hmm, if cash were flowing a lot more easially than it is now, I would certainly consider it. RB keeps me fantastically well entertained, and considering the box price, the cost of modding a cheap real bass pedal, and the 30-40 bucks worth of DLC I've purchased, I am still pleased with the experience enough to continue dumping money into it to increase the awesomness. So, if this is awesome and I have the spare cash at hand when I see it, I will likely buy it.

As always, best to wait for some reviews first, but I think this may be the most noble fate for a wal-mart/bestbuy quality start-clone. A better use for than stringing it and selling it to somebody who actually wanted a guitar worth owning (I'm cruel because I am cruel) :P
Justice's Avatar
Justice at 07/14/2008 03:26
The buttons are pretty ugly unfortunately.
Stahlbrand's Avatar
Stahlbrand at 07/14/2008 03:32
@Justice
They are very ugly indeed, but the article says they're just WIP and will be revised before rollout. Hopefully they don't stay ugly, if they shipped as-is it would be a deal breaker (little chance of that though, it seems).
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hoezee at 07/14/2008 04:04
-"oh, wow, you play guitar?"
-"what? sure baby, suure."
-"hey, what's with the color thingies there?"
-"oh, those are buttons. I forgot to mention. It's a fake-real guitar. You know. For better faking guitar playing. You know how it is."

Nah, the games are fun. But really, why not make a real guitar with buttons? You play the game, and in between you get tutorials on notes, and chords and shit. You practice while it's loading. Or something like that.
Anus Mcphanus's Avatar
Anus Mcphanus at 07/14/2008 05:13
Didn't Harmonix confirm that they'd be doing "real" guitars like this when they announced the ion drum kit? or is this the guitar they were talking about?
Alexradl's Avatar
Alexradl at 07/14/2008 06:43
That looks really cool, but I don't know if I'd want to spend the $100-$150 just to have the "real" guitar feel. I guess I'll have to wait and see if the final product is worth it.
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covah at 07/14/2008 09:30
Am I the only one who thinks it looks stupid?. The way they integrated the buttons just looks terrible.
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loki d20 at 07/14/2008 10:21
For the PS3, will it work with both Rock Band and Guitar Hero III/IV, or will we still have to deal with one guitar for one game franchise?

Also, I think the end result of these games will be actual strings with a neck that lights up where and when your fingers should be on them, in tandem with screen representation. Easy and normal modes won't care about which string you use and hard and expert modes will require proper placement as if you were really playing a guitar.
Slick Icarus's Avatar
Slick Icarus at 07/14/2008 11:52
If it ends up being $100 plus, why not just buy a real guitar>
Brad Rice's Avatar
Brad Rice at 07/14/2008 12:20
@loki It works for both. There's a switcher on the receiver that decides whether it works on Rock Band or Guitar Hero.
Spitfire's Avatar
Spitfire at 07/14/2008 13:29
wait huh... it works for both?? I have really only enjoyed playing the guitar on these games. 100 bucks would be worth it to just pick up the disc-onlys.
VampireChrist's Avatar
VampireChrist at 07/14/2008 15:44
if they iron out the kinks and make it not look guite as hideous as it does now, then yeah, i just might be sold on this...
Sargonas's Avatar
Sargonas at 07/15/2008 11:00
Sold.. done deal, I'll take two please, one for home and one to keep in a guitar bag in my trunk for anytime I'm at the PLETHORA of parties where folks go "who wants to play rockband?" so I can whip it out :D
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imbeta at 07/17/2008 21:24
oh baby baby baby... it's the next best thing to actually picking up a REAL guitar... this will make me feel like a true ROCK STAR...

*sigh*

yeah, I'd still rather rock in the game... good times.
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