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In case you missed CTZ's post collecting all the community members' PAX stories, we thought we'd throw out one more "I <3 PAX" piece to cap off the glory that was PAX '08. Although the discussion doesn't contain all the goodness that was experienced, it does give the editors one more chance to gush about the games, drinking, games, and drinking that occurred.

Feel free to add your own two cents at the end of the post. I know that, even though it was only a week ago, our eyes are slowly turning forward to next year's PAX(es!) and all the awesome that they will contain. So, here's to the memories!

Discuss! 

Dyson

I know that almost everyone had the best time of their lives at PAX, but they also had some game stuff too. I'm not sure if we did a "best of" post on the site yet, but here's a chance to comment, not only on the awesome times we had, but the games that were on display, and the general opinions of PAX. Considering how insanely packed it was, I'm concerned that it may become like the E3s of old - long lines and over packed.

Conrad Zimmerman

Well, I know it was easily one of the best weekends I've ever had. Meeting everyone there was an incredible experience and I'm pretty sure I remember the majority of it. Next year, I'm totally getting a room at the Red Lion so I don't have as far to stumble when we close down that pub downstairs yet again.

As for games, I never manage to play as many as I'd like to because of lines and they were quite a bit longer this year than last. I did manage to get a good chunk of time into Fallout 3, which has only heightened my need to lose myself in it from the comfort of my own home. And playing Guitar Hero: World Tour with Nick, Samit and Chad was so much fun that my mind has been changed on the franchise and I'll be picking the game up when it arrives. It won't be the same without them, but I'll be able to cling to the memory of belting out "Livin' on a Prayer."

The expo is experiencing some growing pains, to be certain. I did hear some complaints of lines being long enough to prevent people from seeing many things, in some cases the very thing they were standing in line to see. Despite having a deep love for nearly every band that played, I only attended the performance of The OneUps. Crowds were just too massive and I'm at the point in my life that practically no live musical performance is worth being crammed in between several dozen sweating geeks creating an air temperature in excess of 115 degrees.

Word is that they'll be expanding into an additional floor next year, so that will (hopefully) alleviate some of the pressure. And with PAX coming to the east coast in 2010, it's possible that less people will make the trek across the country when they can just hit up Boston instead. It's still the best show I've ever been to and I don't want to sound like I'm complaining. I have faith in the management that they'll make the necessary adjustments to ensure that everyone continues having a great time.

Samit Sarkar

A good amount of the editors went to E3, so they were familiar with much of the stuff that was at PAX. However, since I was halfway around the world during E3, everything on the show floor was new to me, so while I had an amazingly awesome time hanging out with all the Dtoiders, I made sure to actually go and play a few games during the weekend.

My personal Game of the Show was Mirror's Edge. I agree with everything that Rev and Tiff said at E3 (it was the same demo level, the white rooftops we're all familiar with by now). I'll have more details coming up soon in my own impressions post, but suffice it to say that Mirror's Edge put an ear-to-ear grin on my face like few other games have done before.

A very close second to Mirror's Edge was LittleBigPlanet. I stood in line for over an hour with power-glove, and it was worth it. I'm not an imaginative person by nature, but that game got my creative juices flowing, and I can't wait to put together my own levels from scratch and then tear through them in a Mr. Destructoid-esque SackBoy. The cooperative-but-still-competitive mechanic is what makes the actual platforming so special -- you and your team members need to work together to make it through the levels, but at the same time, you're trying to beat them to all the collectible orbs to finish first in the points race.

In addition, I was able to get my hands on Rock Band 2 as well as Guitar Hero World Tour, and I loved them both. I sincerely hope Sony can make both games backward compatible with the Rock Band instruments, since I can't afford to buy the bundle for either game. Still, if I have to choose, I might just go with the GH WT bundle, since its drums felt fantastic.

Finally, two other highlights of PAX were Fallout 3 and Castle Crashers. The former's gritty, post-apocalyptic world blew me away visually, and V.A.T.S. is awesome -- I blew a guy's head clean off! As for the latter, well, I played it for less than ten minutes with some random guy, and I can definitively say that it's the first game to make me legitimately want to own a 360, just to play it. So does anyone want to contribute to the "Buy Samit an Xbox 360" fund? PayPal works just fine...

Nick Chester

The best part about PAX for me was whooping Dyson's ass in Tetris DS, and then having him blame it on "lag." The worst part of PAX was the actual, legitimate lag between the drums, television, and audio at the Rock Band 2 set up, which caused me to fail "You Oughta Know."

Jim Sterling

I had a great time. I masturbated a couple times. While sat at home. In my own shit. Occasionally playing with a pair of scissors.

DMV

Followed in Jim's tracks. Did some unmentionable things on Necros' bed, reviewed The Last Guy, and cried in my sleep.

Jonathan Holmes

Same as Brad and Jim, except with more Tropic Thunder.

Also worked on the Mega Man Maker. 

Jim Sterling

"Dtoid Depresses!"

Joe Burling

I didn't get to go, but here are the highlights I saw from home...

1) Left 4 Dead
2) Our fantasmic community
3) Left 4 Dead
4) Dtoid Panel
5) Left 4 Dead

Dyson

On the Tetris issue, there was lag so bad it hurt, and I was hungover more than usual, but I did lose. The funny thing about Nick's excuse for failing at Rock Band 2 (drums weren't calibrated correctly) is the fact that the Harmonix folks didn't re-calibrate the drums after Nick played them, but no one else had a problem with them. Strange that Nick, and only Nick, couldn't get the song out right, huh?

Anyway, enough shit talking. Nick and I are really just competitive people ;) Here's my Tetris friend code if you want a rematch: 120026-390873

The thing I liked best about PAX was hanging out with all the awesome Dtoid community members. Time and time again, people ask me what the best thing about the site is, and I always respond that it is the community. This last weekend proved that opinion by leaps and bounds. Everyone was continously looking out for each other, even though most of us have never met in real life. I decided to stay an extra whole day and The GHost let me stay in his hotel room without asking for anything at all.

That was just one nice thing that someone did for me, but it happened to others as well, not to mention all the other goodness that everyone showed to each other. Stuff like that really drove home the feeling that there is something super special about Dtoid and its people -- something that I know can't be found anywhere else -- and I'm thankful to be a part of it.

As far as games, aside from beating Metal Slug 5 with Asian Joe, I didn't play a single game on the show floor. The lines were enormous and I am so impatient that I didn't want to wait more than 15 minutes to play anything. I probably could have flexed my press pass powers, but I figured that I'd see these games again soon and hanging out with people I rarely see took precedence. I did get Superflossy drunk before she had to go see Fallout 3, which she said would be "the BioShock of 2008," so there's that.

About the lines, I had heard upon returning that there will be an East Coast PAX coming next year, which I think is both bad and good. Bad, because I will now have to go to two PAXes, and good, because the lines were so long and the floor so crowded that I was worried that the show may become like the old E3s. People had to wait over an hour to see games, and if the attendance at next year's show grows any larger, the wait will be unbearable.

The panel was hilarious, btw. According to Dale, I was cracking him up by sitting in the audience drinking tall boys out of a paper bag. What else can I say but "that's how I roll"?

And I passed out in a hotel elevator for 45 minutes one night. That was fun. 

Hamza CTZ Aziz

Where do I even start?! I went to just hang out with everyone and that's what I did. I played a few games when press had early access, but didn't bother when the horde of nerds rushed the floor each day. Hell, I didn't even go to the show floor on one of the days. I would have liked to play a few games such as Fallout 3 and Left 4 Dead, but those lines were killer. 

PAX was about the community and that was my main priority. I learned a lot from this trip and hopefully next years plans will actually happen as um, planned. Also, everyone will be staying at the Red Lion next year, FYI!

Samit Sarkar

Meh. Next year, we really need to find a bar with better service than the Elephant & Castle.

Hamza CTZ Aziz

It was the only hotel with a bar that I saw! Hey, hopefully they have a better staff next year!

Samit Sarkar

It's not your fault -- it just seemed like a great central location (two blocks from the convention center, close to most other people's hotels), and I liked the outdoor/indoor setup. But if I have to wait 45 minutes to order a drink again, I'm going to choke a bitch.

Joe Burling

Is Samit Sarkar gonna to have to choke a bitch?

Dyson

He almost did. I suggest that we post up at Shorty's next year. You guys missed out on one awesome bar. Cheap drinks, good service, and around 20 vidja games, mostly pinball machines. They did have a working Galaga, which Gameworks did not, much to Topher's chagrin. 

Hamza CTZ Aziz

Shorty's is a must. Gotta do it the first day, otherwise everyone won't want to leave the Red Lion!

Topher Cantler

Indeed. It took Pop'n Music, Samurai Showdown IV and Taiko no Tatsujin COMBINED to make up for the lack of Galaga. Yet they had Galaxian. That's like a steakhouse that doesn't have A1 but has plenty of mustard.

Samit Sarkar

That's the greatest analogy I've ever seen.

You know, I should get around to playing Galaga someday...*ducks to avoid thrown objects*

DMV

Taiko no Tatsujin alone would be enough for me. Which one was it?

Samit Sarkar

Is that Taiko Drum Master?

Topher Cantler

It was 9. Couple years old, but still rockin' enough. 

DMV

Yeah, they just came out with 11 halfway through my time in Japan. Ten had Haruhi and Lucky Star on it :D :D :D

**** 

Can you tell that we like games? We get chatting about PAX and then it segues into Taiko Drum Master, a game I have yet to play. Maybe I'll give it a go at next year's PAX. Hopefully even more Dtoid people will show up next year. Maybe then I'll finally figure out who the community member was who is partially responsible for these nice cigarette burns on my arm!


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grafkhun's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2008 21:27
grafkhun
Samit never played Galaga :( and PAX ruled it seems, too bad I couldn't go.
Dead Movie Star's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2008 21:28
Dead Movie Star
I'm gonna go cry in a corner and count my pennies...

One year I will be there, one year.
RaidenMGS2's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2008 21:32
RaidenMGS2
PAX WUZ AWSOM,GO PAX,PAX PAX PAX PAX PAX PAX PAX PAX PAX,PAX RUL3Z,WOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOO PAAAAAAAX@#$%^&*!!!!!!
-D-'s Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2008 21:38
-D-
PAX became more about seeing Dtoiders and hanging out than the games before I even made it to Seattle. Once I was there, I had the itch to play but the lines were such a teasing bitch that, like Dyson, after 15 minutes I just wanted to move on and find ANYTHING with an opening -- insert hooker joke here. I ended up only really playing 4 games: MK vs DC (no lines), The Conduit (~45 min wait), Guitar Hero: World Tour (substantial wait for "main stage") and Rock Band 2 (waited 4 days to play). Other games I watched others play and moved on when I got antsy.

Apparently the Penny Arcade people are VERY much aware of the overcrowding and plan to make things more accessible next year. And as nice as an east coast PAX sounds, part of me is sad because it will more than likely divide the Dtoid community. Seriously, if all we did at PAX was hit bars and arcades, it would still be amazing because that's what it's about to me.
Dexter345's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2008 21:47
Dexter345
Yes, PAX was all of these things and more. I can't wait for next year. You people are all amazing.
blehman's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2008 21:59
blehman
<333

And PAX was more something I went to to meet everyone I've, well, met on the site and get to better know the people I had met. It was a blast putting faces to anon screen names, and even more fun recognizing and being recognized back by people I'd never met. (<3 GHost). I would've loved to have seen more of the show floor, but I don't think I missed out on too much.
ScottyG's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2008 22:13
ScottyG
Samit, Samit, Samit... You gotta be more aggressive when ordering drinks man. A small quiet guy just sitting there is never going to get service. Did I tell you about the bartender sassing me? It was because I literally leaned into her face when she was at the cash register and ordered my drink.

However I'm all for another bar. The Paragon does have a bar / asian restaurant, but Shorty's sounds like the best bet by far. GALAGA!!!

And to be honest I'd make every effort to go to both an east coast and west coast PAX. :)
riomccarthy's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2008 22:59
riomccarthy
PAX was so amazing. I can't wait for next year. And Dyson was definitely the most adorable guy wearing a Metroid on his head that I saw the whole trip. :P
NihonTiger90's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2008 23:09
NihonTiger90
PAX was the greatest experience of my life. Even better than my trip to Japan or anything else. And it will be so until next year, which I expect will be even MORE epic than this year.

I love all of you <3
Macca's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2008 23:12
Macca
If we hit up Shorty's next year, I'll need a fake ID. But I can totally make that work!

Like others I didn't play many games, Mortal Kombat because the lines were short, which surprisingly was really really good, Gears 2 which was great and a couple others.
topgeargorilla's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2008 00:28
topgeargorilla
Dyson! When are you gonna hang out with Tactix and me?!
Knives's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2008 00:59
Knives
@Hamza

A hotel floor full of dtoiders, make it happen :P

@Macca
Next year we need 2 vodka bottles of vodka
Dyson's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2008 02:26
Dyson
@ topgear: Whenever you want, homie. I heard you're living in Berkeley now, even closer! My weeks are shit, but I can squeak out some weekend time coming up.
CountingConflict's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2008 02:43
CountingConflict
FALLOUT 3 was fucking amazing.
Castro's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2008 03:05
Castro
So yeah, I just have to say that PAX was probably the best time I have ever had in my entire life. This may or not be sad, but it is what it is.

Also, the lines were crazy long for the games that I wanted to play. The games will all be out soon, so I didn't really care. There was way too much else to do.

The Jenga match was probably the most intense competitive event I have ever seen. Actually, it WAS the most intense competitive event I have ever seen.

I had honestly never heard of "Vs. Excitebike" before the final round of the Omegathon. That was awesome.

I met Niero briefly. As snarky as Destructoid is, I was surprised to find that he was incredibly nice. Very sweet guy. I'm totally coming back for PAX '09.

That is all.

Wait, it isn't. I'm kind of proud of the fact that the ONLY game I played at PAX was "Little Red Riding Hood's Zombie BBQ". Also, I'm pissed that I didn't find out that Ron Gilbert was there until two days after it ended.
Gwyddia's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2008 07:50
Gwyddia
I miss PAX so much I had two major articles on it at PlayingWithMyWeiner.com

Fallout 3 stole the show for me - I'm still glowing! Oh, wait, that's the Nuka Cola.
keener's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2008 11:21
keener
<333333333333333333333333

what everyone else said X amillion. i cant wait for next year (and hopefully some narps in between).

as far as bars go for next year, i like the setup of the red lion's bar but yeah they were woefully understaffed and the manager was not very patient. if the service is better next year we can rock it again, otherwise perhaps we should try taking someplace else over. outside seating was boss though and it was so close to everyone.

anyway, bars aside, im madly in love with everyone that was at pax and i cant wait to see all of you again (soooon plssss)!
Hitogoroshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2008 14:28
Hitogoroshi
They had Sam IV at Shorty's?!?!?! FUCK!!!
naia-the-gamer's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2008 19:50
naia-the-gamer
I'm bummed I had to leave sunday night. Also having as many of us as possible in one hotel (and even better, one floor) would be amazing. Considering how cheap the badges are for even the whole weekend of PAX it's still worth going. If they can fix the crowd issue with an even bigger place or something that would be even better.

Either way, I'm so going to PAX in 09. I don't care what comes up.
The Incredible Edible Egg's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2008 03:46
The Incredible Edible Egg
I've lost my will to blog, so imma just drop some highlights of my trip.

-Triumphant return to my place of birth.

-Touching pplz hair.

-Harassing (and eventual rape) of Hamza.

-I licked Nieros hand when I met him.

-I think there was drinking at one point

-All my buds from them innernets ( esp NJ/NY DToid peeps <3 )

-Meeting so many new epic pplz. Too many to mention and I dont want anyone to feel left out, cause my memory fails me and I know I'll forget someone.

-Niero "christened" my wallet after putting a dtoid sticker on it.

-HOLY SHIT DAN PALIDAN IS TEH COOL. MAKE ME SUM ARTZ! (I completely zonked and didn't ask him to sign my reciept or anything. I suck so hard)

-Triumphant leave of Guitar Atomik and Chad... wait, thats not a highlight. I almost cried sunday morning cause of that!

-Who wears short shorts? LostChriton wears short shorts!

-(Not so much) Triumphant leave of my birth place

Oh yeah, I suppose there was a convention or something there too...
Necros's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2008 15:34
Necros
PAX really was about the people more than the games.

And the reason I suspect we kept going to the Red Lion for beers was because they'd serve some of us younger Dtoids with no questions asked. Shorty's sounds better, but even though I'll be 21 next year, some younger Dtoiders might have trouble getting in to hang out at all (unless they make sure to totally plan ahead somehow...) It wasn't a good feeling in the least when 10 of us were kept out of the Redwood on Thursday night, unallowed to just come in and drink soda with the people we came to hang out with; I was really happy that servers were so lax at the Red Lion.
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