yeah Cheapy loves these. I'm sure if your like him you will enjoy it, but pretty much everyone else probably won't. it would be cool if you could have multiple trains derail and smash into buildings and parking lots though.

Make it crash or something! How could that be MORE boring?

I imported one of these games for my PSP and it's (against all odds) fun. It's bizarre, no doubt.... but done knock it till you've tried it... play-asia has the PSP ones and they're not that expensive... it's worth the buy

Train Simulators are cool and all, but my friend aways says that simulator creators need to take the next step and bring us Elevator Simulator Extreme!!!

What I meant by "Wii nonsense" is everything Nintendo is doing right now. Horrible VC prices, no great games on shelves (there are good games, sure, but nothing great), and they keep pushing back anything that is going to be good. I'm just getting tired of everyone saying that the Wii is awesome, yet there's nothing that proves that right now. Developers are doing nothing to fully utilize the Wiimote. I've been patient long enough with the Wii.
As far early adopters comment goes, Xbox had a good choice of games right out the gate. Granted, I'm a FPS whore. Also, Brad, I LIKE the niche games. Samba De Amigo, Track N Field for the NES, even the damn Power Glove!

Mxyzptlk: See the thing about Steel Battalion is that it was a great game. That controller was worth being able to pilot what a mech may be like. Sure it costed a lot, but at least it's better than moving and stoping a train on a linear path.

-> CTZ: If you're sicking of hearing how awesome the wii is, I'm not sure you've been reading dtoid. Every time it's mentioned, I find myself defending it from irrational barbs in the comments. Personally, I think twilight princess and wii sports are really great games(as is warioware, if a little short lived). To me, as someone who prefers fpses on the pc, the original xbox only had a handful of appealing titles in it's whole lifespan. The 360 also has only become attractive to me shortly before the wii's release.

As for developers doing nothing to fully utilise the wiimote, I'd disagree with you there. The problem is, they all thought the wii would tank like the gc before it, so they didn't start making those games until after the console was released and the bomb dropped. In the meantime, first party nintendo games will hopefully be frequent enough to stave off most of the dust from gathering.

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by the "pushing back" of titles, most previously announced ballpark releases seem to be being kept pretty consistent. I've a feeling you might be talking about smash bros., but that hasn't been pushed back. No release date was given before, that remains true. If I recall rightly, super paper mario was just kind of sprung on us too, so don't be too pessimistic.

Finally, niche is not a genre. There are lots of different niches for lots of different gamers with lots of different games filling them. I love me some rhythm games and shmpups, but management and simulation games just don't appeal. If you've never played a train sim you like, how do you judge whether this one is any good or not?

FIRST OFF BRAD ... fuck ... I forgot all about Twilight Princess X(. That was really great. I'm not a Zelda fan either, but that was great.

I understand that developers thought the Wii could tank, but what about Nintendo itself? Zelda was originally a GC game first and only pushed back to help sell the Wii. They've come out with other games, like Wario, Mama, Elebits, but not enough to keep the momentum going in my opinion. And to developers that fully supported the Wii, namely Ubisoft, their games weren't that awesome. Rayman was decent, but look at Red Steel. How in the hell Ubi let that game into the market I'll never understand. I'm just fed up seeing games that are either ports from the PS2 (Both new Wii games this week are also on the PS2) or mostly focusing on the puzzle genre. Nintendo can do better than this.

I was mostly referring to Metroid when I said they keep pushing back games.That's a really big franchise they promised to have out by now, but they keep pushing it back. Which I guess might be ideal since Wiis are hard to get still. Once Smash Bros finally comes out, I'll stop my bitching too. I won't care about anything else for the Wii. In fact, I challenge you to a Smash Bros match sir! (THAT IS IF THEY DON'T FUCK UP AND EXCLUDE ONLINE PLAY).

I interpret niche as all the funky games that need that extra weird controller or just the flat out weird (KATAMARIIIIIII).
As far as how I can judge a game that I never played, I'm just giving my opinion. I don't get it, that's all.

Parrothead: The band is Dragon Ash. No clue on the song though. Oh yeah, how's that friend of yours (from the Dtoid 1 yr party). :D

yawns

The sad thing is, if this had come out for the Dreamcast I probably would have bought it. That system had some weird mind control power that made me buy silly peripherals all the time.

US will get the Thomas the Tank Engine Train Simulator =P