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Demon's Souls has a death toll: You're just a statistic photo

Atlus' Demon's Souls is quickly earning a reputation as one of the most punishing and cruel videogames of all time. The game is designed to kill you -- and kill you hard. As if to add insult to injury, Atlus has revealed that it's actively logging a death toll for the Demon's Souls, turning your hard fought and painful memories into little more than a statistic.

Yesterday evening, after less than a day on store shelves, the number of deaths in the game's first area registered at over 3,000. Atlus counted the bloodstains of fallen players and boasted of the lives lost that day. While it's not confirmed, I am 100% certain they were laughing as they did this. 

"Death toll in Boletaria Castle area one as of 5:30PM PST: 3,479 bloodstains," announced the company. 

That was last night. I dread to think how bad it's gotten now. I asked Atlus to keep that death toll running, so hopefully they'll update with more stats and we can see just how badly we've gotten our arses whupped. As for me, I have a copy of the game in transit and I am kind of terrified. Waiting to receive a copy of the game is like being on death row.








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Matte G's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 09:02
Matte G
BRING THIS TO THE UK SOMEONE!

Or where can I import this? Anybody?
Ultramonkey's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 09:04
Ultramonkey
This is amazing, I'm going to import this in the near future.
Caffeine Knight's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 09:09
Caffeine Knight
"Waiting to receive a copy of the game is like being on death row."

This is the best thing that you've ever said. No, really though, I laughed.
Subject2Change's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 09:10
Subject2Change
Coulda imported a Korean/Asian copy months ago...however just buy a copy off of eBay or something. Should be cheap enough to import.
Ganjookie's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 09:13
Ganjookie
Mm I want my Ps3 now instead of in a month....

I love that the company is recording and displaying this type of information.
DarkMagic56's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 09:14
DarkMagic56
Death Toll is over 9,000. I guess this game will be considered the most hardcore game of the year.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 09:17
Chris Carter
@Dark
Nah: not even close to all the shmups that are coming out. Demon's Souls is like any video game with any sort of challenge.

It's tough for the first few hours or so, but once you get the cling ring in the first 30 minutes, snag a good bow, and understand the riposte timing, it's gravy.
SmashDash's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 09:17
SmashDash
Blind rage and a ton of expletives describes my playthrough so far.
MrSadistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 09:19
MrSadistic
They probably started lighting 100 dollar bills on fire to help them light their cigars. Plus they probably started touching themselves whenever they saw someone accidentally roll to their death.

Sick bastards.
Purplehaze1094's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 09:24
Purplehaze1094
i'll be adding to that count by the end of the week
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 09:28
Sexualchocolate
Import guy - I'm in the UK and i got mine from ebay, £40, the Asian version like 2 weeks ago. People are selling it from the UK, so nice quick delivery.

This game is rock hard, but only until you get used to it, the fighting is fucking sweet, pure finesse and timing, I love it.

Cling ring is fucking required! Finding that shit is your first objective for sure.

I got back last night, had a couple of hours to play and managed to kill Flamelurker and The Adjuducator! Fucking buzzing! when you've tried so many times and failed, to look at the enemies health bar and think, "shit, it's only one more shot and he's down" the tension is thick, the sweat beading on your brow, knowing that if you die, those 15,000 souls in your back pocket will be stuck, in a confined space with a fucking giant boss enemy, is intense.

Killing a boss is like a shot of dopamine directly into your spine.

The only gaming feeling that comes close is on Monster hunter, when you and 3 guys have spent a whole evening trying to get a rare piece of a certain monsters tail, and then the next day you kill one on your own and get it!


It's that dopamine that i love.
Gen Eric Gui's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 09:32
Gen Eric Gui
I'm with Magnalon. So far, this game hasn't been any harder then your standard Megaman game, which is to say, not hard at all. It's more about level memorization and the ability to repeat enemy-specific strategies with muscle memory then it is true difficulty.
Meancode's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 09:40
Meancode
It is worth noting that the North American version that Atlus published does not connect to the same servers that the Asian version of the game does, if that matters to you.
Deny Everything's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 09:55
Deny Everything
seeing as how no other game tracks this stat, it's fairly meaningless when we have no reference for what would be a normal death count.
Niero's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 09:55
Niero
Pretty smart.

Brutally hard games obviously have a market
WormFOODx's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 10:08
WormFOODx
I didn't find the game that hard. In fact, I have only died twice. One was because I followed someones sign and jumped to my death and the other because an enemy killed me.

I think this game was made for me. If you come in thinking you are playing God of War or any other type of hack and slash game you will die, a lot. I personally like to take my time and carefully go through an area. This strategy has kept me alive and from falling into many of the "around the corner" enemies. I love this game!
deadline's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 10:10
deadline
Mark me down for a few of those deaths last night :)

Normally I hate games where I have to die over and over again, but this game is so fascinating. Also the combat has a nice weighty feel, and the graphics are amazing. Looking forward to more punishment...
runtheplacered's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 10:12
runtheplacered
@ Magnalon,

While I'm sure it's not the most hard game ever (I haven't played it yet, but I was pretty sure of that, anyway) I'm sure it is a hard game. With as many people all across the world calling this game incredibly difficult, it comes off like you're trying to sound a little too elite when you say, "it's gravy". But, we shall see.. I'll be picking it up later this week. Still working on Risen at the moment.
Stigmeyer's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 10:14
Stigmeyer
Saw this last night too and was surprised at how low the number was. :-) I think it is just a fun stat to keep for fans. I just hope they are tracking these and other metrics on all of the other levels too.

The game is hard, yes, but once you 'get' the combat you will absolutely love it and want to fight everything as many times as you can. I have had the Asian version since March and have loved every single minute of it. It is my favorite PS3 game yet.
Jonathan Ross's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 10:15
Jonathan Ross
I contributed to about 8 of those.
CrocBox's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 10:15
CrocBox
Is it odd that I wanna play this game MORE now?
Chris Morris's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 10:29
Chris Morris
Been wanting this ever since it came out in Japan, now that it is finally out I'll have to add my deaths to the statistics!
Sean Carey's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 10:32
Sean Carey
5 or so of those were mine -- I'm playing a royal built to spellcast, so there's not a lot of wiggle room in the health department. It is a humbling game without being overly cheap, just the right kind of challenge so far. It keeps you on point for sure.
Keres's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 10:44
Keres
Based on what I saw last night, probably half of those deaths were due to people thinking that this was Halo and running through doors at full speed, getting flattened by an ambush. And a few unfortunate cases of people just straight running off of ledges.
Black Nexus's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 10:44
Black Nexus
I tolled up 6 deaths I think, and that just makes me wanna play this game more.
Jon B's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 10:44
Jon B
Yech, this is one of the reasons I want a PS3.
Don't want it going multiplat though, I don't think I could bear the xbl messages from the little kids who can't get past the first enemy.

Oh well, I guess I'll have to dig around for a preowned PS3 phat.
Caffeine Knight's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 10:48
Caffeine Knight
I want this. PC version, plz?
project2501's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 10:59
project2501
@WormFOODx I was guessing that people were going to use the sign system to trick other players into getting killed and it sounds like I guessed correctly.

So far the videos, reviews and comments for this game are reminding me of two other really hard dungeon crawlers: Eye of the Beholder 2 and Wizardry 7. I loved those games but they were hard as hell. Nothing like opening a dungeon door and having half your party disintegrated by the Beholder on the other side before you can even swing.
DaedHead8's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 11:02
DaedHead8
I died at least ten times last night. My first death was at the hands of that big dude at the end of the tutorial. At first I wasn't sure that I was supposed to die there so I started a new character and played the tutorial again. When I couldn't find a way around him and died again, I just moved on. Since then I fell down pits, was killed by the red-eye knight in 1-1 at least 5 times, got ambushed, got firebombed, got blown up and I loved every minute of it.

Tonight I'm gonna start a new character because I read somewhere that you shouldn't use the bosses souls to level up your character and should instead save them to buy unique spells later in the game. Plus I wanna try the royal class that everyone seems to love.
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 11:07
Holyetheline
I really need a PS3... there's so many good games out now.
BGFUSAB's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 11:27
BGFUSAB
I'd be curious to hear the death toll in area 4-1, I have not so happily contributed to several deaths there. The game is sweet though.
aaronf's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 11:28
aaronf
DaedHead8: I died on that guy too in the tutorial. Is there a way to beat him?
NostalGeek's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 11:32
NostalGeek
Jim I am terrified as well!

them ore i read the more I want to try it but I'm scared this game is going to kcik my butt into a frustration that will make me give up after 2 hours....
XanderSan's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 11:36
XanderSan
@aaronf: He is certainly killable, though I don't know any great strategy for it especially if you're a close range class beyond 'Don't ever get hit, ever'. I have a feeling you get a sword as a reward, but the best part is how you end up at the Nexus if you aren't killed by that thing. Which I wont spoil. I really need to play my import again now that everyone else is tucking into it.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 11:42
Chris Carter
@runtheplacered
Well..let's see.

I've played around 50 hours of it, and it clicked for me around 3-4 hours in.

The people who say it doesn't click, they play for around 5, then give up forever, without trying to succeed.

Point being, if you try, you'll get there.

@aaronf
Yep! You can kill him, but you don't have to. I never did, even with my alts.

Also, DO NOT USE THE BOSS DEMON SOULS TO FOR CURRENCY! Keep them, and use them on NPCs for more spells/options.
Dan Hoyt's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 11:47
Dan Hoyt
This game came out of nowhere; I didn't even hear any hype for it. But after reading reviews and watching videos of it, I want it really, really bad. But I don't want to drop 60 bucks on it...Uncharted 2 is coming out next week.
Nogarda's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 11:48
Nogarda
lmao its not THAT hard. just n00bs trying shit too early.

@matte g ebay can get the korean version for $29.99
Matthew Blake's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 12:01
Matthew Blake
I would love it if they had a sort of widget for this; imagine having a little ticker box in your forum signature that went up every time someone died.
AudioTerror's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 12:06
AudioTerror
Yeah, three of those deaths are mine.
Killrig's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 12:13
Killrig
I died about a dozen times between start and reaching the 2nd boss. No, I haven't defeated the 2nd boss yet.
Riegel88's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 12:56
Riegel88
I have to wait until christmas to play
*sigh*
matrixdude171's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 13:15
matrixdude171
So this is a dick move. You die over and over and over just to advance. That is counterintuitive to the whole "don't die" concept in videogames.
Zeik56's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 13:33
Zeik56
"So this is a dick move. You die over and over and over just to advance. That is counterintuitive to the whole "don't die" concept in videogames."

You don't HAVE to die to proceed (excluding one part in the tutorial), however you WILL die until you learn how to proceed. This is not counter intuitive, it teaches you how to play correctly. In fact it was a major facet of video gaming up until just a few generations ago. Nobody can tell me they didn't die over and over in Mega Man or Mario on the NES until the learned what it took to beat it without dying.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 13:36
Chris Carter
"You die over and over and over just to advance."

You seem to be the new "Chronic Logic" in terms of making uneducated guesses without experience in the topic.

Demon's Souls is a game that immediately teaches you how to learn from your mistakes, so you don't constantly repeat them (die "over and over", as you say). Couldn't the fact that "X" number of people died so far be because a ton of people bought the game? If everyone died once, and a lot of copies were sold, that would be a higher number right there.
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 14:03
mix
I should have my game today, I'm going to call on my lunch as it was SUPPOSED to be here on the 6th and I went to go grab my pre-order and they told me that the shipment was delayed a day due to weather issues.

I had my whole day planned around this game

:(
jakebonz's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 14:16
jakebonz
I've killed 5 bosses so far and I haven't died once...

















...it helps that I've been playing my Import copy for the past 6 months ;)
Adam11's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 14:34
Adam11
I think this comes in the mail tomorrow. I want to play it so bad.... <squeals with excitement>
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 14:44
pedrovay2003
I've been playing it offline, just to get used to it. I don't mind the difficulty of the game, but the gameplay feels... Off, to me. I just can't get into it.
Black Nexus's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 15:14
Black Nexus
@aaronf
He seems killable but I haven't seen anyone do it yet.

I was a knight so I charged him.............. Not my greatest battle stratagy, he took me out in a shot.
TheStripe's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/07/2009 18:34
TheStripe
It's not as hard as it seems if you go in cautious with your shield up. Read messages from other players, and watch your ass. (or arse, depending on your locale)

@Mags - Yeah, I see it now. Though I did spend 30 minutes killing that f*cking red dragon with the first bow I found because I wanted my soul pile back. Just to go and get schooled by that enormous tower knight. Had to bow and arrow him, too.

Do you play through the tutorial again when you New Game+, because that's the only way I could think anyone would have a chance with the Adjudicator at the beginning of the game. I've only started one character, the Temple Knight (so I could start with a polearm and heal) and it's been good to me so far. Heal makes me a little upset, since EVERYTHING drops healing goods, and I have no way to sell them. IS there any way to sell items you don't need?
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