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[Defense Force is an article series that roots for the underdog, plays Devil's Advocate and otherwise defends the indefensible. If something's hated, and we deem that hatred unjust, you can guarantee the Defense Force will mobilize.]

How many times have you said that Aaron Greenberg should shut his mouth? Or that Peter Molyneux talks too much? Have you ever suggested that maybe Denis Dyack should spend more time developing his games and less time flapping his gums? If you have, it's quite understandable: These people trash talk, overhype, and generally chat up a storm, and many gamers get tired of it.

However, I can't help but feel that the gaming community would be a less interesting place without these industry loudmouths, sparking their controversies and giving us all something to be equally loud about. While the words of a Greenberg or a Dyack are not essential, they certainly have a purpose. 

Defense Force mobilize! Join me as I stand up for the trash talkers and the chatterboxes of the games industry, even though they've got mouths big enough to do plenty of defending themselves.

I've never understood why people get so upset by what an industry executive says. What they do is another matter entirely, since that affects the business, but what they say rarely has any impact on us whatsoever. So why do we get riled up and bent out of shape because a Microsoft man said something bad about a Sony product, and vice versa? Some people take what is said personally, when you can be sure that the executives slinging all this mud aren't emotionally invested at all. I'm fairly certain Jack Tretton's never shaken his fist and screamed "KHAAAAAAAAN" because of something Peter Molyneux said.

These people know that what they say generates hits. It gets people talking and it keeps them focused on their products. Even the people telling Greenberg and friends to shut their mouths is doing exactly what the publishers want. They're paying attention and getting more emotionally involved than anybody within the industry actually is. The more you get upset by an industry talker, the more you play into his hands. 

I tend to be more amused by what an executive says than upset by it. Don't get me wrong, sometimes they do say something infuriating, like Reggie Fils-Aime displaying his condescending attitude toward Europeans, or when Sony says something so utterly stupid it could affect consumer confidence in the PS3. Most of the time, however, it's harmless patter from older men in suits who think they're chatting smack on a basketball court somewhere in the rough part of town. 

That's my main reason for defending the big talkers of the games industry. They're fun. When Aaron Greenberg says something insulting about the PS3 or Peter Molyneux makes one of his crazy, hype-laden promises, it sparks debate, prompts discussing or just plain makes people laugh. The playground antics of grown businessmen certainly gets a chuckle from me, and it definitely causes the gamer community to talk. Nobody's been hurt, and everybody's had something to say. It's win/win. 

As far as I'm concerned, this industry needs more loose cannons and people who talk way too much. Denis Dyack may have made a horrible game in Too Human, but his endless self-promotion and accusations made for an entertaining ride, far more entertaining than the game itself turned out to be. Who could forget him challenging NeoGAF to an ownage competition? Or how about that time he claimed that people complaining about lengthy, repetitive cutscenes in Too Human meant that they actually loved the game? 

How about Luc Bernard, the man whose tantrum following our own review of Eternity's Child was so inflammatory it got the whole industry talking? Luc is a guy who speaks his mind, even if what he says is crazy. He's a man who developed a DS game about the Holocaust. He's a guy who quite the game industry, only to come back a few weeks later. Then there's Peter Molyneux, who can't stop talking about how brilliant and revolutionary his games are, even though we all know he's talking horseshit. You just never know what he'll say next, and how God-like he will make his games sound. He's an excited guy, who hypes himself up for his own games, and it makes for some really outstanding stories. 

If people like these kept their mouths shut, I dare say the game industry would be a much more boring place. We'd certainly have far less to talk about. Those who are telling such men to shut their mouths are basically stating that they want a more dull and quiet community, and I don't think any of us really wants that, do we?

It should also be noted that, in many cases, these people are only talking because somebody asked them a question. It's not like Kaz Hirai sits alone in a room, spouting off nonsense unprompted until a blogger just so happens to walk past and hear him through the locked door. These people are talking because people want them to talk. Questions are asked of these people with the sole intention of encouraging an inflammatory comment. Of course, it's up to the industry member to choose whether or not he's inflammatory, but the driving issue here is that he's only answering questions. These people don't "shut up" because people keep asking them to talk. 

And talk they should. The Greenbergs, Trettons and Bernards of the world are welcome to speak up as much as they want, and whether they say something stupid, incredulous or even moderately insightful, you can guarantee that somebody, somewhere, wants to listen. 

Let the men speak!


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TheCleaningGuy's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/09/2009 17:23
TheCleaningGuy
I concur, industry loudmouths make life more fun... Except for Bobby Kotick
eternalplayer2345's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/09/2009 17:49
eternalplayer2345
I agree with you on most but I still think kotick is a dick
Quoth's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/09/2009 17:53
Quoth
I still like Molyneux. Awesome guy.
Magnalon's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/09/2009 17:59
Magnalon
Molyneux; killer of expectations he set. Worst of them all.

My vote for the king (in the "good" sense)? Itagaki: BEST loudmouth EVAR!
AKK's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/09/2009 18:04
AKK
I notice you don't mention Kotick, and remind you that you're frequently the one who points out Kotick's absolutely ludicrous statements.

Not that I'm complaining. I agree with everything you've said about that fucker. Just interesting to notice.
HiddenAHB's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/09/2009 18:30
HiddenAHB
I'm probably one of the few Molyneaux lovers out there, i loved each one of his games and i don't give a fuck if he hypes the crap out if his games, but i guess that is because i have a anti-hype shield that prevents me of getting too excited for one title.

PS: Fuck Kotick, he's the worst of them all.
Hcapt's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/09/2009 18:40
Hcapt
Arguably, the journalist is also the source of the problem.

The journalist acts as a filter between the source and the audience. It is the journalist's job to only quote things that are worthy of news. And yet they quote Patcher all the time. What Patcher says isn't news, and most the time isn't true. So it is the journalists' fault we experience his stupidity, because they couldn't be bothered finding relevent information, but rather decided to do a lazy job and take the first quote they could find so that they could have an easy article.
TheCleaningGuy's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/09/2009 18:41
TheCleaningGuy
Magnalon is 100% correct!
dunderdolt's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/09/2009 19:16
dunderdolt
Randy Pitchford isn't what one should call, "discreet."

I cannot wait for BORDERLANDS, though!
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/09/2009 19:22
Jim Sterling
AKK:

The main difference with Kotick is that I believe he is truly harmful to the industry. I think many of Activision's business practices are wrong and I think he actively shows outright disgust for his customers.
Hcapt's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/09/2009 19:30
Hcapt
@ Jim Sterling

I agree with that last comment completely.
Hcapt's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/09/2009 19:50
Hcapt
I take that back, I think Kotich is bad for gaming. However, Kotick isn't inherently bad for the industry; his practices are simply the logical conclusion that is reached in the current industry trends. I'm told gaming was different before it was an industry, and frankly, this industry just gives off a bad vibe of having no interest in it's customers; and often outright disdain towards it's new customers (like the "casuals").

If Nintendo doesn't win outright, then the logical conclusion to the current trends is that the entire industry ends up like Kotick and Activision. After all, Activision under Kotick became the largest 3rd party player under ideologies much like Kotick's.

Of course, the logical alternative is widespread destruction of the industry in it's current form. I don't see a middle ground, because the present companies make money in only one of two ways; by making the types of games Activision makes, or by making the types of games Nintendo makes. I see no alternative at the moment that could be considered more profitable.
stevenxonward's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/09/2009 21:08
stevenxonward
Yeah, Kotick is kind of a different animal in this instance... an animal that may or may not be (but almost totally is) a pedophile.
Mulk Calathar's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/09/2009 22:15
Mulk Calathar
They should shut the hell up. And so should Jaffe. And Lately Pitchford.And that Turn 10 ass.
Draxxlith's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/09/2009 22:37
Draxxlith
Don't lie. We know that is exactly what Kaz Hirai does.
Spot on for the rest of the article, though.
Draxxlith's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/09/2009 22:38
Draxxlith
Don't lie. We know that is exactly what Kaz Hirai does.
Spot on for the rest of the article, though.
Draxxlith's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/09/2009 22:39
Draxxlith
sorry for the double post, Toilet Edition timed out, but apparently made it though
matty125's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/10/2009 02:07
matty125
Jim, I'm surprised you haven't mentioned Victor Ireland. Unlike those other dopes, Vic is the most important one to cite since when mouthed off it was for a reason - to bitch at Sony Entertainment of America for their shitty policies on what game is "acceptable" to be released in the States and other bullshit practices that block otherwise decent games from appearing on consoles.

Not to mention when Vic finally did do what Sony told him and Working Designs to do, they went bankrupt. He hasn't spoken too much since, but I'm sure was pissed as all hell, among other emotions. I would have loved to hear him then, but it seems he tightened his belt as far as his PR work goes.

If the industry -needs- one loudmouth to rule them all, it's Victor.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/10/2009 05:56
Xzyliac
I find it VERY ironic that Jim is the one writing this. That's all I'm gonna say.

Love ya Jim.
Buddyleej's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/10/2009 06:23
Buddyleej
Sony says some pretty stupid stuff. Microsoft says things that create Sony fanboys. Bobby Kotick needs to get out of this industry.
rsquad's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/10/2009 17:20
rsquad
Ha! Of course Sterling defends this type of behavior - the majority of his articles are trashing these people for what they say. "Don't shit where you sleep" eh, Jim? If they stopped talking he wouldn't have a job.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/10/2009 18:57
Jim Sterling
"If they stopped talking he wouldn't have a job."

Yep, because those are the only stories I post.

You are very clever and perceptive.
shinigamiDude's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2009 22:46
shinigamiDude
So, we can't expect how Peter Molyneux should STFU article next week.
I think Sony just say STFU to Heavy Rain guys who said people should only play their game once.
Benson's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/12/2009 14:34
Benson
wait, these are the ONLY articles you write?!

What have I been doing with my life?!
TheStripe's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/19/2009 14:36
TheStripe
"The main difference with Kotick is that I believe he is truly harmful to the industry. I think many of Activision's business practices are wrong and I think he actively shows outright disgust for his customers."

This ---^

I was hoping someone would get to it before I did. Luckily, it was Jim.
Arkhon's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 21:07
Arkhon
I loved Too Human. Call me crazy. Then again, I also didn't pay any attention to the game beforehand. I also loved Fable II, and didn't take any of the hype seriously. But then again, maybe I'm just one of those "rational thinkers".
TheGlue29's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/26/2009 10:29
TheGlue29
Jim, you're dead on about Kotick being the devil. I know that's not verbatim what you said, but he is certainly Beelzebub, the Prince of Darkness.

I however have a question about the first sentence of the fourth paragraph, "I've never understood why people get so upset by what an industry executive says."

Weren't you just a week or two ago raging against Naughty Dog for saying that Uncharted 2 isn't possible on the 360? Something about making themselves look like crap developers?

Or is it that you don't understand why people get upset at what M$ executives say?
The Amazing Shenazin's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2009 05:18
The Amazing Shenazin
so how's that Too Human sequel coming along I wonder?
crusnchill's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/31/2009 14:13
crusnchill
I agree. But you ain't exactly a quiet guy in the mouthing off department yourself Mr. Jim Sterling, so I can definitely see why you'd be saying this.

Please don't take offense though, as I find this especially useful when reading your articles... As it means that I can trust that what you say is true from your point of veiw. Quite handy.
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