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I'm not surprised they're keeping competitive multiplayer out of the game, it was a failed experiment to broaden the audience that probably cost them a ton of money. Fewer people bought DS2 than DS1, and if EA is to be beleived, DS2 sales were close to 2 million after a week or two. This would mean they absolutely fell off a cliff soon thereafter.
I find it hard to believe that all of this experimentation isn't just EA trying to turn DS into something much larger than it is. Maybe it'll work out this time around, and considering how much money they've said the co-op ran (expensive was the word), I hope it does.
I find it hard to believe that all of this experimentation isn't just EA trying to turn DS into something much larger than it is. Maybe it'll work out this time around, and considering how much money they've said the co-op ran (expensive was the word), I hope it does.
I feel like I'm the only person who is actually excited for Dead Space 3 and Resident Evil 6 for the addition of full co-op.
Both series has not been scary for a while but the gameplay in Dead Space makes up for it along with the story which I actually enjoy and the addition of Co-op is about the greatest thing I can think of.
Both series has not been scary for a while but the gameplay in Dead Space makes up for it along with the story which I actually enjoy and the addition of Co-op is about the greatest thing I can think of.
ok, so the worst thing ever in videogames is not making a comeback? that's good i guess, now we just need them to think about the co-op and realize why co-op in a horror game is a terrible idea.
"We wouldn't want to have an AI follower because that wouldn't feel Dead Spacey"
HAHAHAHAHAH OH FUCK AHAHAHAHAHHA DAMN THAT'S SOME LOLZ
I still have no problem with coop inherently. If it was ONE HUNDRED PERCENT OPTIONAL then that's great, everyone wins. coop exclusive "dungeons" though... that's disappointing and definitely not "Dead Spacey"
HAHAHAHAHAH OH FUCK AHAHAHAHAHHA DAMN THAT'S SOME LOLZ
I still have no problem with coop inherently. If it was ONE HUNDRED PERCENT OPTIONAL then that's great, everyone wins. coop exclusive "dungeons" though... that's disappointing and definitely not "Dead Spacey"
Also, there is no excuse for lack of split screen if that is in fact the case. Left 4 Dead has it, Resident Evil 4 had it, I don't want to hear some bullshit about technical limitations. The sad part is that I JUST MIGHT have been able to pull my roommate away from Modern Warfare 3 long enough to play this game with me, but now I can't even do that because they want to push their inevitable online pass.
I love Dead Space but the multiplayer just didn't interest me at all. I'm glad they scrapped it. The co-op looks really interesting.
Overall, I'm really liking what I'm seeing with DS3. So many sequels just stay true to form and barely introduce anything new beyond new areas, enemies, powers, etc. Basic shit.
Visceral looks like it's really trying to evolve the Dead Space formula and it's very refreshing to see that in an industry that is scared to try anything new. (Despite the features being aped from other genres)
Overall, I'm really liking what I'm seeing with DS3. So many sequels just stay true to form and barely introduce anything new beyond new areas, enemies, powers, etc. Basic shit.
Visceral looks like it's really trying to evolve the Dead Space formula and it's very refreshing to see that in an industry that is scared to try anything new. (Despite the features being aped from other genres)
@llort het
Do you even know what you're asking for? Split-screen isn't as simple as just splitting the screen, you have to re-optimize the entire game for it.
The game's visuals need to be downscaled so the console can handle two screens at once. It cuts into development time and cost. It's NOT an easy thing to do and it's actually far easier to do online multiplayer. All things considered, it's an under utilized feature anyway. Not many people actually use it, despite some loud proponents for the feature.
Split screen sucks anyway. If you want a friend to play in the same room as you, tell him to bring his Xbox over and hook it up to your computer monitor. I've been doing that for years and it's way better than sharing half a screen.
Do you even know what you're asking for? Split-screen isn't as simple as just splitting the screen, you have to re-optimize the entire game for it.
The game's visuals need to be downscaled so the console can handle two screens at once. It cuts into development time and cost. It's NOT an easy thing to do and it's actually far easier to do online multiplayer. All things considered, it's an under utilized feature anyway. Not many people actually use it, despite some loud proponents for the feature.
Split screen sucks anyway. If you want a friend to play in the same room as you, tell him to bring his Xbox over and hook it up to your computer monitor. I've been doing that for years and it's way better than sharing half a screen.
I honestly trust Visceral. They seem to know how to work around EA's crap requests for stuff like huurrrrr moar action or huurrrrr gotta do some MP.
I mean, DS2 added in a crap, phoned-in MP mode, but the single player still felt incredibly meaty so I had zero problem with it. And while the E3 showing of this literally could NOT have been worse, the more and more I see the more I like/love. There's actually incentive to play co-op rather than it just being there.
I mean, DS2 added in a crap, phoned-in MP mode, but the single player still felt incredibly meaty so I had zero problem with it. And while the E3 showing of this literally could NOT have been worse, the more and more I see the more I like/love. There's actually incentive to play co-op rather than it just being there.
@ragnar dragonfyre
Split screen cuts into development time and costs... that's pretty much the argument people have been using against shoehorned multiplayer for years, and they get called entitled whiners when they say it...
Anyways, I really think you need to try putting yourself in other people's shoes a little more. I love split screen, sorry that you don't like it. It also isn't practical to expect people to have friends bring over a computer moniter (I don't have one) a second xbox, a second copy of the game (which like I said, my friends are just casuals who only play Call of Duty, I couldn't convince them to buy this entire game just to maybe play coop with me). I'm tired of being collateral damage for their stupid decisions. The simplest solution would be easily to make everyone happy by not having coop exclusive sections in the first place.
Split screen cuts into development time and costs... that's pretty much the argument people have been using against shoehorned multiplayer for years, and they get called entitled whiners when they say it...
Anyways, I really think you need to try putting yourself in other people's shoes a little more. I love split screen, sorry that you don't like it. It also isn't practical to expect people to have friends bring over a computer moniter (I don't have one) a second xbox, a second copy of the game (which like I said, my friends are just casuals who only play Call of Duty, I couldn't convince them to buy this entire game just to maybe play coop with me). I'm tired of being collateral damage for their stupid decisions. The simplest solution would be easily to make everyone happy by not having coop exclusive sections in the first place.
Shame, I enjoyed the stupid-fun mess that is DS2 MP.
Oh well, that means the population will still be intact
Oh well, that means the population will still be intact
I'm really excited for dead space 3, I don't care if there's a bigger focus on action. I've always played dead space games for the awesome sci-fi themes and the great story, not just the jump scares. The only thing I'm not happy about is that I need to play co op to get the most out of the games story, that pisses me off.
I feel a little better about this now. I mean I had fun with the DS2 multiplayer for a while but it wasn't anything to write home about. Glad their focusing more on single player/co-op
I do trust Visceral to make a great game and my main concern about having an A.I partner if you went single player have been put to rest.
@llort het
Lol how does cutting out the co-op exclusive stuff make "everyone happy"?
At this stage in development they'd have to shoehorn in the forced co-op of RE5 to give single player those co-op sections. The co-op exclusive content revolves around Carver afterall. I don't know about you, but I hated RE5 and it was because of the forced partner.
A key argument people have against this game is that the partner ruins immersion, yet those same people want the co-op content in the single-player mode. The argument is self defeating.
I'm sorry that having more options to play a $59.99 game longer upsets you. I just have a hard time sympathizing with people who argue against replay value.
Lol how does cutting out the co-op exclusive stuff make "everyone happy"?
At this stage in development they'd have to shoehorn in the forced co-op of RE5 to give single player those co-op sections. The co-op exclusive content revolves around Carver afterall. I don't know about you, but I hated RE5 and it was because of the forced partner.
A key argument people have against this game is that the partner ruins immersion, yet those same people want the co-op content in the single-player mode. The argument is self defeating.
I'm sorry that having more options to play a $59.99 game longer upsets you. I just have a hard time sympathizing with people who argue against replay value.
@ragnar dragonfyre
I'm not arguing against replay value, and neither is anybody else, stop jumping to the conclusion that all criticisms are completely irrational.
I'm also not saying they should cut out the coop exclusive stuff, I'm saying they should have made the coop exclusive stuff playable in single player THAT would have made everyone happy (and no, not with an AI partner, you have a point that that would be even worse than making coop exclusive content). I know that it's too late now and it's not going to change at this point so I'm not advocating that they start cutting content pointlessly, I'm just saying that it was stupid to design parts of the game like that in the first place, and they should have had a little more foresight than that.
I'm not arguing against replay value, and neither is anybody else, stop jumping to the conclusion that all criticisms are completely irrational.
I'm also not saying they should cut out the coop exclusive stuff, I'm saying they should have made the coop exclusive stuff playable in single player THAT would have made everyone happy (and no, not with an AI partner, you have a point that that would be even worse than making coop exclusive content). I know that it's too late now and it's not going to change at this point so I'm not advocating that they start cutting content pointlessly, I'm just saying that it was stupid to design parts of the game like that in the first place, and they should have had a little more foresight than that.
So i never actually though of this until now, but: the co-op in this game is local co-op or online co-op only?, if it's the later fuck EA then.
'coop exclusive "dungeons" though... that's disappointing and definitely not "Dead Spacey"'
Exactly, if it has local co-op fine, if it's only only, fuck EA.
Exactly, if it has local co-op fine, if it's only only, fuck EA.
Wow. I completely forgot that Dead Space 2 had competitive multiplayer. I guess that speaks volumes on its quality, doesn't it?
In some ways though, I'd rather them waste time and money on a mode that has *absolutely nothing* to do with the single player than build that single player around co-op, which always degrades the quality of said single player experience to some degree.
In some ways though, I'd rather them waste time and money on a mode that has *absolutely nothing* to do with the single player than build that single player around co-op, which always degrades the quality of said single player experience to some degree.
It's a pity I'm just not interested in playing Dead Space, since this is exactly what developers need to do, focus on what enhances gameplay, rather than shoehorn in a mode to try and pad out the play time.
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