surf dtoid with 
Rising (10+)
People you follow
New E3 trend: developers spend the week after E3 telling all of their fans that [insert sequel here] hasn't really abandoned the old formula.
Haha, I'll believe that when I see that there's still horror or survival elements in this game. Also cover system ruins it anyway.
Which formula? The one Dead Space 2 already abandoned? or the one it created?
For my money, the original Dead Space is hands down the best in the franchise and probably always will be by the looks of things..
For my money, the original Dead Space is hands down the best in the franchise and probably always will be by the looks of things..
Considering battlefield also never abandoned its formula according to ea I expect this to do the same
I'm convinced that you can't really make a horror franchise year after year and still have it be scary anyways. Even if Dead Space 3 played and felt like Dead Space 1, it wouldn't be a horror game. Because once you've spent 10+ hours killing necromorphs, you know the patterns, you know what to expect. If they made DS3 with the exact same formula it would be comfortable and familiar... two things that should never describe a horror game. RE has been struggling with the same problems. What do you do to make things scary again? The zombies shoot you, that's scary right? Nope. The combat and tropes of the series are so incredibly familiar that I doubt it will ever scare again. Hell, if they do change things up enough to actually feel like horror, fans would still be complaining because it wouldn't feel like the RE/DS they know.
So why not go full action? It's never going to have the same horror effect it did with the first game. Never. Might as well embrace the action aspect while you explore the Dead Space universe.
So why not go full action? It's never going to have the same horror effect it did with the first game. Never. Might as well embrace the action aspect while you explore the Dead Space universe.
Yep, there are going to be coop exclusive missions that I'm going to miss out on. Oh well, hopefully they don't have must have items or story elements or anything like that
It's totally abandoning the formula. Which is cool, because the original Dead Space was just the poor man's RE4.
I don't know what everyone's bitching about, I loved the original dead space for its horror and sci fi aspects, I loved dead space 2 because it was still scary even if they bumped up the action. This game looks great and I'll definitely be buying it on the first day
No thank you.The guy you bitched about all the games should have complained about this instead of saying Metal Gear Rising doesn't look like Metal Gear Solid.
@Lintire: You say DS was the poor man's RE4, I say RE4 was a poor man's Dead Space.
Different strokes for different strokes, I guess.
Different strokes for different strokes, I guess.
Meh, I felt the change in Dead Space 2. Too many things were in my face and screaming, with a few cheap deaths in the mix.
Cheap death=/=scary
I knew I didn't like Dead Space 2 when I realised the multiplayer was derp, and the single player was not worth a second playthrough.
Cheap death=/=scary
I knew I didn't like Dead Space 2 when I realised the multiplayer was derp, and the single player was not worth a second playthrough.
I have to agree with jazzpanda on this one...
Also, it's not about making it stay the same and stagnating the formula by trying to make it scary in the same ways that the first one did it... it's taking it in a *far* better direction with deeper gameplay and better writing than this... this... god dammit, can't even say it.
Still, I say that DS2 did a lot of things right (like making kinesis for for *something*, having a bit more variety in enemy types and eliminating most of the backtracking), but it also did many other things totally *wrong* (like butchering the story, trying to add "character" to Isaac, the dead girlfriend trope, completely bland secondary characters, the Stross shtick... *MULTIPLAYER*... to name a few).
To be fair, you can't totally blame EA... Visceral also carries blame for this massive misstep.
Also, it's not about making it stay the same and stagnating the formula by trying to make it scary in the same ways that the first one did it... it's taking it in a *far* better direction with deeper gameplay and better writing than this... this... god dammit, can't even say it.
Still, I say that DS2 did a lot of things right (like making kinesis for for *something*, having a bit more variety in enemy types and eliminating most of the backtracking), but it also did many other things totally *wrong* (like butchering the story, trying to add "character" to Isaac, the dead girlfriend trope, completely bland secondary characters, the Stross shtick... *MULTIPLAYER*... to name a few).
To be fair, you can't totally blame EA... Visceral also carries blame for this massive misstep.
I'm still very skeptical. While people are hoping for Dead Space 3 to be good I'm going to better spend my time by waiting with eager anticipation for Zwei. The second Ellana mentioned that they've aimed the co-op at people who were "just too scared" it became glaringly obvious this just isn't for me.
@ Master Snake that's the way I see it too. DS refined some of the rougher edges of RE4.
Me personally, I never get scared by video games. Excited? Sure. Scared? Nah. I think it's because I've seen so much horror films it really doesn't effect me. Games like Dead Space do more for me with great atmosphere and sense of tension with the survival aspect. So long as that's intact I'll be happy.
Me personally, I never get scared by video games. Excited? Sure. Scared? Nah. I think it's because I've seen so much horror films it really doesn't effect me. Games like Dead Space do more for me with great atmosphere and sense of tension with the survival aspect. So long as that's intact I'll be happy.
@David51
Why isn't it for you? The single-player is going to remain intact as the horror experience we're expecting.
It's true that Dead Space scared a lot of people away from playing. I can't find the article now, but the devs extrapolated data from achievements and fan feedback that many people put the game down permanently at certain scary sections of the game.
Dunno about you, but a game that's so scary they need to put in a scare-free mode for pansys sounds pretty good to me!
Why isn't it for you? The single-player is going to remain intact as the horror experience we're expecting.
It's true that Dead Space scared a lot of people away from playing. I can't find the article now, but the devs extrapolated data from achievements and fan feedback that many people put the game down permanently at certain scary sections of the game.
Dunno about you, but a game that's so scary they need to put in a scare-free mode for pansys sounds pretty good to me!
I was sitting there thinking to myself that I'm still gonna have fun with this game with a friend. Then I realized there will probably be a scene where the main characters bro fist, most weapons are gonna be automatic firing, and that it's going to be origins exclusive.
Fuck.
Fuck.
"doesn't mean they're throwing out elements which made the first two games so appealing"
Implying the first two games used the same formula.
Implying the first two games used the same formula.
So long as they nail the atmosphere of the first two games and give me another badass campaign a la Dead Space 2, I'll forgive the new cover system, aiming reticles, and somersaults. (The co-op doesn't bother me since it's optional and might be fun when I tackle my second playthrough.)
I just hope there are better (or any) bosses, after DS2. That was the only thing I found lacking in that game. It needed some decent boss encounters, or anything to break it out of the pattern of enter a room, door locks, enemies come from everywhere. I missed the variety of the (brilliant and superior) DS1. I missed the feeling I got when I finally burned that regenerating necromorph to death with the shuttle engines. Nothing in DS2 approached that.
DS1 was a single player action survival horror game. DS3 (from every thing they're shown us) is a co-op action game with some spooky stuff sprinkled in.
Whatchu talkin bout Visceral?
Whatchu talkin bout Visceral?
@caramelzappa
How about no? There's a metric ton of "why not go full action" games out there. This generation is absolute garbage because that's the only thing we're getting anymore. Capcom isn't "struggling", they aren't even trying to keep RE grounded in survival horror. An RE in the old style could still be a success, they just don't even want to make the attempt.
I remember when you could play an RPG or a survival horror game. Now the only thing we ever get is some variation of a shooter. Personally I'm tired of "cover shooting button awesome" games.
How about no? There's a metric ton of "why not go full action" games out there. This generation is absolute garbage because that's the only thing we're getting anymore. Capcom isn't "struggling", they aren't even trying to keep RE grounded in survival horror. An RE in the old style could still be a success, they just don't even want to make the attempt.
I remember when you could play an RPG or a survival horror game. Now the only thing we ever get is some variation of a shooter. Personally I'm tired of "cover shooting button awesome" games.
Fucking Co-op. *Sigh* At least Silent Hill is still trying to give you that single player, survival horror edge. Also, how annoying is this chick?
follow
