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@chopper161
No, I'm being pessimistic because there is nothing about this situation at the moment that gives me ANY reason to be the least big hopeful about this working.
No, I'm being pessimistic because there is nothing about this situation at the moment that gives me ANY reason to be the least big hopeful about this working.
Another quality single player game, put on the pyre of 'everything must have multiplayer'.
I just hope they don't screw up the balancing of the single player game to nudge the player into co-op. Hell, I want the ability to remove co-op from the title screen, via the options menu. I want the ability to bar it from my sight, as seeing it each time the game turns on will make me die inside, just a little bit.
I just hope they don't screw up the balancing of the single player game to nudge the player into co-op. Hell, I want the ability to remove co-op from the title screen, via the options menu. I want the ability to bar it from my sight, as seeing it each time the game turns on will make me die inside, just a little bit.
The sorts of changes they're making sound a lot like what Capcom's doing with RE6. I guess it's interesting to see how it'll turn out, but I'm doubtful about how much horror they will be left in the game.
If I'm forced to play with a moronic AI partner for even a second, I will gladly pass over this game. Resident Evil 5 was all but broken on any difficulty other than easy unless you had someone else to play with.
The good news is that just adding a second playable character doesn't eat up too many resources, so it probably won't take away a lot of development budget/time away from the single player campaign. Personally this seems like a much better compromise then having EA waste a bunch of resources on a competetive multiplayer mode that no one will play.
That said, again, this better be 100 percent completely fucking optional. If I have another AI controlled sheva following me around and dieing on me, or if there are missions where you have to have a player 2 to complete, then fuck EA and fuck Visceral. Hopefully that won't be the case
The good news is that just adding a second playable character doesn't eat up too many resources, so it probably won't take away a lot of development budget/time away from the single player campaign. Personally this seems like a much better compromise then having EA waste a bunch of resources on a competetive multiplayer mode that no one will play.
That said, again, this better be 100 percent completely fucking optional. If I have another AI controlled sheva following me around and dieing on me, or if there are missions where you have to have a player 2 to complete, then fuck EA and fuck Visceral. Hopefully that won't be the case
Wow, talk about shooting yourself in the foot, and then repeatedly unloading the entire clip into the other one before they've even left the gate.
They had a chance to make an actual horror game, but now it's sounding more like just another bland third person shooter. Co-Op ruins horror games as much as giving you tons of weapons does. Defiantly skipping this seeing as though I've already played the same game twice before.
They had a chance to make an actual horror game, but now it's sounding more like just another bland third person shooter. Co-Op ruins horror games as much as giving you tons of weapons does. Defiantly skipping this seeing as though I've already played the same game twice before.
Does every game have to feature co-op and multiplayer now? I mean come on seriously. Horror games are great because you have a sense of aloneness, having another person/character ruins that aspect.
I think the addition of co-op could actually be pretty awesome, provided that it's implemented well, but the change to the plasma cutter sounds awful. Dead Space's strategic dismemberment is what sets it apart from other 3rd-person shooters.
I don't understand the hate Jim. This is a single player game, and as long as they scrap the multiplayer in favor of Co-op, I can't see how in any way that's a bad thing.
Multiplayer was crap and tacked on, but I still think my 59.99 purchase was justified just for the 3 runs of Single player I had. With Co-op, oh the places you will go with my best buddy.
Also, on the consoles get tons of Co-op games, PC games get shafted hard most the time, and Dead Space 2 never even got the horde mode put into the PC version.
Multiplayer was crap and tacked on, but I still think my 59.99 purchase was justified just for the 3 runs of Single player I had. With Co-op, oh the places you will go with my best buddy.
Also, on the consoles get tons of Co-op games, PC games get shafted hard most the time, and Dead Space 2 never even got the horde mode put into the PC version.
I would love to see this coop aspect used in some kind of psychological mindfuckery. Imagine if at random your coop partner turned in to a Necromorph during the middle of a fire fight and you have to work out which was your partner and which was the real enemy without killing each other.
Now, now 4 year olds are a valuable demographic for EA games, so lets make all the enemies rainbows and unicorns, we can charge 15$ DLC for the 'old' enemies.
I was hoping the other player would be a wise cracking Necromorph and you spent half the game arguing about which radio station to put on.
And another horror franchise becomes an action franchise with some gore in it. *le sigh*.
Also, I'm hoping they make this one less pitch fucking black then 2. I'd have liked to play through that game, but my lack of a HD tv ballsed all over their assumption that I would have one, and even the brightest contrast setting was so dark it rendered parts of the game horrible to play.
Also, I'm hoping they make this one less pitch fucking black then 2. I'd have liked to play through that game, but my lack of a HD tv ballsed all over their assumption that I would have one, and even the brightest contrast setting was so dark it rendered parts of the game horrible to play.
Whatever, I'll be playing solo anyway. But they've done WHAT to the plasma cutter? Are they going to offer me a "Classic Plasma Cutter" as a pre-order bonus I wonder...
@JJ Rage
Sorry, but the wrk has to come from somewhere. "More features" usually means less work on the others. You're not getting extra stuff, you're just sacrificing the important stuff to get it.
Wouldn't it have been great if Bioware had been working on a good ending for ME3 instead of having to shove that shitty multiplayer into their work schedule?
Sorry, but the wrk has to come from somewhere. "More features" usually means less work on the others. You're not getting extra stuff, you're just sacrificing the important stuff to get it.
Wouldn't it have been great if Bioware had been working on a good ending for ME3 instead of having to shove that shitty multiplayer into their work schedule?
Gotta have that online pass! Dead Space 2 MP was pointless but easily ignored. This sounds like they're making it harder to do so, which makes me far less interested.
I wouldn't mind if it had couch co-op. I guess it would go against the idea of horror games, but DS2 was rather light on the horror and heavy on the shooter side anyways...
Please, EA...if you're reading this...
...Please don't do this. I don't care about the co-op. Just don't fuck up my Plasma Cutter. Don't twist this game into a cover shooter. This is the last quality action/horror series we've seen in a while. We don't got much else else. I'm begging you: Don't fuck up Dead Space.
Please.
;__;
...Please don't do this. I don't care about the co-op. Just don't fuck up my Plasma Cutter. Don't twist this game into a cover shooter. This is the last quality action/horror series we've seen in a while. We don't got much else else. I'm begging you: Don't fuck up Dead Space.
Please.
;__;
At first I wasn't pleased with this news, but upon reflection, it isn't as bad as it looks.
I put the Plasma Cutter in horizontal mode and left it that way forever. There isn't any need for anything other than horizontal. Heck... there isn't any need for any other gun period. If they put the Plasma Cutter in horizontal mode by default this will actually be a huge buff for it.
I doubt Visceral will inadvertantly nerf the gun into uselessness, but I think this is their way of balancing the guns so people actually bother to use the other weapons. They realize more than anyone else how iconic the Plasma Cutter is to the series.
The co-op announcement concerns me however. If it's like RE5 with forced co-op, I can't see it being a positive addition for the series. As long as it's COMPLETELY optional, I'm totally okay with it.
RE5 was a lot of fun when played with a live partner, but it hardly evoked any feelings of horror from me... and this series has scared the beejezus out of me. The FIRST scene in DS2 was pant-shitting panic. I'd hate to lose moments like that. It's hard to immerse yourself into a game when your buddy is yammering in your ear on the headset.
Dead Space is my favourite new IP of this generation, just barely edging out Mass Effect. I have little hope left for EA, but I have faith in Visceral. I can't imagine them letting their baby get completely raped by the corporate machine.
I put the Plasma Cutter in horizontal mode and left it that way forever. There isn't any need for anything other than horizontal. Heck... there isn't any need for any other gun period. If they put the Plasma Cutter in horizontal mode by default this will actually be a huge buff for it.
I doubt Visceral will inadvertantly nerf the gun into uselessness, but I think this is their way of balancing the guns so people actually bother to use the other weapons. They realize more than anyone else how iconic the Plasma Cutter is to the series.
The co-op announcement concerns me however. If it's like RE5 with forced co-op, I can't see it being a positive addition for the series. As long as it's COMPLETELY optional, I'm totally okay with it.
RE5 was a lot of fun when played with a live partner, but it hardly evoked any feelings of horror from me... and this series has scared the beejezus out of me. The FIRST scene in DS2 was pant-shitting panic. I'd hate to lose moments like that. It's hard to immerse yourself into a game when your buddy is yammering in your ear on the headset.
Dead Space is my favourite new IP of this generation, just barely edging out Mass Effect. I have little hope left for EA, but I have faith in Visceral. I can't imagine them letting their baby get completely raped by the corporate machine.
Wow, more bitching. I'm shocked. Let's bitch about a game that's not out yet! It's fun! Do "gamers" even like any game at all? I come to destructoid for gaming news and somehow get sucked into reading the comments.. but now I'm not even going to bother. So much damn whiny bullsit..
@Wulfskull
Couldn't agree more. I said the exact same thing when they started bitching about the God of War MP.
C'mon girls, let's see how it plays first, hmm??
Couldn't agree more. I said the exact same thing when they started bitching about the God of War MP.
C'mon girls, let's see how it plays first, hmm??
(Optional) co-op I can live with, but this:
"The Plasma Cutter no longer switches between horizontal and vertical fire, but between regular fire and a pushback blast."
is a fucking no-no. The Plasma Cutter's two fire modes are what makes it the best weapon in the game!
"The Plasma Cutter no longer switches between horizontal and vertical fire, but between regular fire and a pushback blast."
is a fucking no-no. The Plasma Cutter's two fire modes are what makes it the best weapon in the game!
And seriously, you anti-multiplayer people just need to chill the fuck out already.
Did competitive multiplayer ruin Dead Space 2? No, it was the best game of 2011.
Did co-op multiplayer ruin Portal 2? No, it was the second best game of 2011.
Visceral is a good studio and they haven't done wrong by us yet. Let's give them the benefit of the doubt!
...
Except for that Plasma Cutter thing. Fuck that noise.
:)
Did competitive multiplayer ruin Dead Space 2? No, it was the best game of 2011.
Did co-op multiplayer ruin Portal 2? No, it was the second best game of 2011.
Visceral is a good studio and they haven't done wrong by us yet. Let's give them the benefit of the doubt!
...
Except for that Plasma Cutter thing. Fuck that noise.
:)
@Mr Andy Dixon
The plasma cutter thing is sad indeed best gun in the game ;_;
I was getting at them focusing more on co-op than single player but you right *sniff* I'm sorry Viscy, I didn't mean to hurt you, I'm sorry that I made you cry, I didn't want to hurt you I'm just a jealous guy.
The plasma cutter thing is sad indeed best gun in the game ;_;
I was getting at them focusing more on co-op than single player but you right *sniff* I'm sorry Viscy, I didn't mean to hurt you, I'm sorry that I made you cry, I didn't want to hurt you I'm just a jealous guy.
Co-op is indeed a better choice than they're "tap A to win" multiplayer.
Like people said so long as it's seperate from single player I'm down. I'd even hope it were two different characters so they could be their own seperate storylines.
Like people said so long as it's seperate from single player I'm down. I'd even hope it were two different characters so they could be their own seperate storylines.
I fully support any initiative by developers to add a fun and well executed co-op experience into any game they want. Perhaps some are feeling like there are too many co-op games coming out now, but I completely disagree. I can't even remember more than 4 games in the last couple years that I've played with co-op in them (FEAR3, Sniper Elite 2, Splinter Cell: Conviction, RE5), and my friends and I are constantly looking for more. I hope they can create an amazing single player experience as well, but if the co-op remains an optional mode, I see no problem here. Aside from the possibility of the developers forced to compromise one aspect of the game for the other, this sort of co-op doesn't really bother me in the least, as I could just play it on my own for the alone-in-space feeling.
Now that other stuff about the plasma cutter and human enemies makes me :( If anything, they should be overhauling the monsters to require more intense, precise plasma cuts to kill without turning them into a running,screaming murder machine. And human enemies, seriously? That's what I play EVERYTHING else for, not Dead Space!
Now that other stuff about the plasma cutter and human enemies makes me :( If anything, they should be overhauling the monsters to require more intense, precise plasma cuts to kill without turning them into a running,screaming murder machine. And human enemies, seriously? That's what I play EVERYTHING else for, not Dead Space!
None of the things mentioned here excite me. The plasma cutter change is fucking stupid and ruins most of the gun's appeal, and the ability to crouch and addition of human enemies tells me that this is yet another ploy to cash in on the shooter crowd, which will ruin Dead Space's appeal.
The co-op is the only thing I can see providing anything good to this game, but only if it is completely and utterly optional. Leave the focus on the single-player campaign, and DO NOT make the campaign revolve around multi-player. This severely detracted from RE5 and ruined ME3. Please, let's not ruin this series too.
Oh wait, it's EA.
We're fucked.
The co-op is the only thing I can see providing anything good to this game, but only if it is completely and utterly optional. Leave the focus on the single-player campaign, and DO NOT make the campaign revolve around multi-player. This severely detracted from RE5 and ruined ME3. Please, let's not ruin this series too.
Oh wait, it's EA.
We're fucked.
That's so EA. Better have split screen.
What they did to the weapons upsets me more than the co-op. Seriously wtf. Human enemies? Crouching? This isn't Dead Space anymore, this is looking like Gears of War now... Seriously, WHAT THE HELL?! This is some shit.
What they did to the weapons upsets me more than the co-op. Seriously wtf. Human enemies? Crouching? This isn't Dead Space anymore, this is looking like Gears of War now... Seriously, WHAT THE HELL?! This is some shit.
Yay! now there is some else I have to worry about while playing, that's never gone bad. I know lets not make the game about dismemberment and how about we add more action into. I'm not feeling the space alien zombies, lets just use regular human zombies and instead of a religious angle why not terrorist.
Dead Space doesn't need co-op. I never played the first two and thought to myself, "Oh man, this would be so much better if I was playing with a friend." I like the solitary experience of it. Also, my plasma cutter could shoot vertical and horizontal. I liked that. A push back secondary fire? What is this, a rape aggression defense class? No, I do not fully support these changes. Will keep this on the radar at least for the time being.
*removes Dead Space 3 from my day one buy, add to $15 bargain bin buy
And it might shift to NO BUY. But since it wouldn't generate as much money, it would be like "Pirates! Pirates, everywhere!
And it might shift to NO BUY. But since it wouldn't generate as much money, it would be like "Pirates! Pirates, everywhere!
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