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Dead Rising 2 may have up to 6,000 zombies on-screen photo

Izmeth Siddeek of Blue Castle Games recently remarked that he and his team are aiming to pack Dead Rising 2 with up to 6,000 on-screen zombies at a time. Upon first hearing this news, I immediately thought, "YEAH! I can't wait for this game!"

Then I actually looked at my TV and tried to picture 6,000 zombies on-screen at once. I couldn't do it.

I have a 32-inch HD set, which I consider to be a pretty standard setup in our modern age. I just popped in my DVD of the Dawn of the Dead remake to check out the explosion scene, to see how many zombies I could count. I estimate there being somewhere between 800 to 1,200 zombies in that scene, but I could be wrong, because I quit after ten minutes of tallying. Counting zombies is a pretty lame thing to do with your Saturday.

Just like how a cheeseburger stacked three feet high might be the ultimate fast food experience, filling the screen with 6,000 zombies would be an amazing achievement ... in theory. In practice, I'm guessing it would be sort of a worthless gesture; just something for the game's developer to brag about while doing little to actually make the game more fun. Keep in mind, I'm the guy who openly admits to preferring Dead Rising: Chop Till You Drop to the original Dead Rising, which I'm told will get you the stamp in some countries.

[Via Kotaku]








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Jaren Face's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/28/2009 14:26
Jaren Face
Is 6000 even necessary. I mean, the number in the original 360 DR was fine enough. This however just screams 'doing it cause we can lols'.

If this does end up happening, some of those missions can become even more annoying. With the original DR for me, at one point the zombies stopped posing a threat and became more so just an obstacle that slowed me. I picture that slow-down being 6000 times worse now =\
Scroll's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/28/2009 14:28
Scroll
Considering this was announced at GDC, it relates mostly to tech design than anything else. So why the hell are you nit picking on a comment about their tech that's being used in the game?

And how can you not get that more Zombies means more fun?
bluexy's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/28/2009 14:36
bluexy
Hahah, they must have thought, "Oh they're complaining about not enough zombies on the Wii game huh? We'll show them!" Or at least that's what I hope they thought! :)
sleepingagain's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/28/2009 14:37
sleepingagain
hmmmm in-and-out, anyways.... having that many zombies and crazy weapons might be kinda rad.
Xhumation's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/28/2009 14:37
Xhumation
Jonathan Holmes has just posted a question of vital importance for the human race.

Is there such thing as too many zombies?
AgentMOO's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/28/2009 14:44
AgentMOO
So would that mean the Wii port could handle all the way up to 60?
Scroll's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/28/2009 14:44
Scroll
"Is there such thing as too many zombies?" I say never, ever.

Also Motorobo: I don't dig intelligent zombies, Land of the dead didn't do much for me.

Also on another note why no mention of the multiplayer? yknow why not focus on the positive?
Drach's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/28/2009 14:51
Drach
@Jonathan: Dawn of the Dead? Which one? The newer one or the classic Romero film? I recently picked up the original on blu-ray and man is it a great film.
I still haven't seen the remake.

No. there isn't such a thing as too many zombies... As long as I have a chance to slay them.
Scroll's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/28/2009 14:57
Scroll
I guess he means the new one with the large scenes with CG zombies. To be honest both films are good for different reasons. I think you owe it to yourself to watch the "remake", it certainly has it's own flavour.
j00zt1n's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/28/2009 15:03
j00zt1n
No no no, that's not how I read that story yesterday. I'm pretty sure they mean they're going to have more than 6,000 unique types of zombies in the game, not 6,000 on screen at a time.
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/28/2009 15:04
Chronic Logic
You prefer Chop Till You Drop than the original Dead Rising?! What blasphemy is spewing forth from your mouth heretic?!

I can imagine 6000 zombies on screen at once, just make sure you're high enough to see them all.
MrSadistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/28/2009 15:14
MrSadistic
Well your first mistake was watching a clip from the remake for the sake of comparison.
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/28/2009 15:18
Holyetheline
Just because they can doesn't mean they will.
Excel-2011's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/28/2009 15:25
Excel-2011
I liked the Wii version more than the 360 version. I don't like being timed on that large a scale. But that's for another article.
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/28/2009 15:27
Jonathan Holmes
@ Mr Sadistic- I watched that clip just to see how many zombies could possibly fit on my TV, even from a bird's eye view. It was a lot less than 6,000.

@ j00zt1n- Really? How do you get that out of the headline "Dead Rising 2 Aiming For 6000 Zombies On-Screen"

@ Chronic- I should have the Dead Rising: Chop Till You Drop Vs Dead Rising comparison piece done by next week, where I'll get into a few of the reasons why I prefer DR:CTYD.

In short, I think that the original Dead Rising aimed for really loft goals, but missed most of them by a lot. DR:CTYD doesn't aim nearly as high, but it pretty much hits all its targets dead on. In that way, I actually respect the original Dead Rising more, but if I had to play one of the two right now, it would be DR:CTYD.
Aertyr's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/28/2009 15:29
Aertyr
I WANT THAT BURGER SO BAD!
BluDesign's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/28/2009 15:51
BluDesign
@aertyr

I had in-n-out burger for the first time ever last week... You're not missing anything.

You're better off getting a whataburger (if you live near one), or... maybe some local joint.
Darren Nakamura's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/28/2009 15:58
Darren Nakamura
If 6000 zombies on screen at once is akin to that In 'n' Out burger, then that is awesome and I see nothing wrong with it.
Monodi's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/28/2009 15:58
Monodi
Wow! That's like... 6000 times the ones in the Wii version!
j00zt1n's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/28/2009 15:59
j00zt1n
I read the story on MTV Multiplayer yesterday, we must have seen different stories if the one you read had a headline claiming "6,000 On-Screen."

The paragraph that Totilo wrote in the story I read makes me believe they're not talking up "6,000 on-screen" (simultaneously, anyway), but rather the fact that their new engine can render different types of characters, instead of the same old chainsaw fodder you've been plowing through for the last four hours. Here's the paragraph in question:

"His presentation focused on how software called Mental Mill enabled Blue Castle to efficiently render many characters in visually distinct ways. The software is helping the makers of this zombies-in-a-casino action game to present a large number of characters without losing graphical quality and without having to take shortcuts that would put the game’s zombies in a small number of outfits."

And a link to said story on MTV Multiplayer.

Later in the article, he does mention that somebody heard from someone else who was told by someone that the development team is aiming for as many as 6,000 characters on screen, though Totilo notes that that figure was never claimed as accurate. Also, the word "simultaneously" is never mentioned once, in this article or in the headline you quoted earlier.

So, it's a case of "Somebody said that they heard from someone else that the team behind DR2 is shooting for 6,000 characters on screen, but they weren't sure if that number was right and they didn't say if it was at the same time or not."

I'm not trying to stir anything up here, I'm just trying to get the facts straight. I don't think there will be 6,000 zombies on screen simultaneously in Dead Rising 2.
Black Nexus's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/28/2009 16:01
Black Nexus
1 heart attack coming up, would you like fries with that?
Magesx's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/28/2009 16:07
Magesx
Dead Rising 2: Gamble Til' You Scramble will only feature 16 zombies on-screen.
BahamutZero's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/28/2009 16:53
BahamutZero
...or your asked kicked in any self-respecting country
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/28/2009 16:59
Jonathan Holmes
@ J00zt1n - Great job! I hope your take on the info is right. 6,000 types of zombies would be great, much better than being forced to consistently plow through 6,000 zombies at a time
Drach's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/28/2009 17:18
Drach
I'll take a look at that film, but I'm kind of a purist when it comes to my zombie media. I really prefer Romero films over others. Then again.. I did like Peter Jackson's Dead Alive (Braindead) a ton... it's hard to beat that Lawnmower scene. "Your mom ate my dog!!!"
The Gief's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/28/2009 17:21
The Gief
or have you ever considered the possibility of since its in a city the army have been called in? maybe theres some hardware knocking about?
dont tell me 6000 zombies vs you in a SHITTIN BIG TANK hasnt occured. god i hope they do that just for splatter lolzzzzz maybe ye'd have to hijack it like you did with those 3 spazmo prisoners on the jeep in the first DR.
or a helicopter so you could re-enact "the field of zombies vs helicopter blades scene" out of 28 weeks later?
the possibilities are vaugely endless.
The Gief's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/28/2009 17:28
The Gief
@ Drach win with the braindead ref!! i love the baby in the park scene!!
have you ever seen Bad Taste? its jacksons 1st movie. its brilliant, not zombos though aliens but likely the best illustration of intergalactic wankers you'll ever see!!!

IM A DEREK AND DEREKS DONT RUN!!!!
Jack8274's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/28/2009 17:48
Jack8274
The Gief, Bad Taste was so bad it was good. When the guy goes through him and gets born, I had WTF plastered on my face.

On another note, ZOMBIES OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG.
Maurice Tan's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/28/2009 19:06
Maurice Tan
Dammit AgentMOO beat me to it.
John B's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/28/2009 20:24
John B
Wow. Sounds like this company should change its name to "Dilbert Digital Entertainment" or something. It's clear that the marketing department is running the engineers, not the other way around.

"Our game plays like shit, looks like shit, and sounds like shit, but - LOOK! - 6,000 zombies on screen at the same time!!!!"
Daynger777's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/28/2009 22:10
Daynger777
@bludesign:

I can't believe you said that. In-n-out is amazing! Double-double animal style and animal fries? I shun you!

Shun the non-believer!!!
zanthox's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/28/2009 23:24
zanthox
man, I wonder what the achievement for killing X# of zombies will be if they can have 6k on screen at a time...
Detry's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/29/2009 00:02
Detry
worstsimpsonsyoutubelinkever

Moar zombies? Yes please.
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/29/2009 00:05
Sharpless
Maybe if they're midget zombies stacked on top of each other.
Blackhat's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/29/2009 01:01
Blackhat
I'm trying to imagine consoles somehow accumulating the RAM necessary to do this.

I'm figuring two, three times more.
CaptainApocalypse's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/29/2009 01:14
CaptainApocalypse
Just got an HDTV, so maybe I can actually READ the text in the game. Either way, DR2 is gonna be great.
Woverine's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/29/2009 03:30
Woverine
first off @bludesign

are you crazy?!?! in n out is amazing.

second off.. fun fact: that story picture is from when the zappos CEO and some other people tried to actually eat that many patties. I live literally a minute from that in n out. pretty crazy seeing as how zappos is huge now.

http://whatupwilly.blogspot.com/2006/01/in-n-out-100x100.html#greensboring_loves_you
nebones's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/30/2009 02:26
nebones
It's hard to imagine the 6000 inches in my pants, but yes, it's there.
Drach's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/30/2009 14:37
Drach
I finally rented that newer Dawn of the Dead film, I liked how they had some of the old cast in there from the original. I can finally see what you mean about that explosion scene, Jonathan. I didn't sit and count.. but I can say there's a ton in that scene (Maybe 6K?). It wasn't that bad.. a lot of the time I found myself saying "No, this is wrong" or "that would have worked out better if the film maker did this" but I was just nit-picking. Thanks for the recommendation guys.. I may have to find a cheapo copy of it to add to my Dead collection... Though, I still like the Romero films better. They have a very carefully planned social commentary that reflects the times. The newer one seemed more like "This is a horror movie, we're here to scare you, not make you think".

In and Out burger owns. I went to one with my Vegan friend when I was in California, and I have to say they do make some good burgers. Besides.. The Dude says they have a damn good burger.. and The Dude abides.

@The Gief:
I'll have to check that one out. I did like Peter Jackson before Hollywood spoiled him with millions upon millions of dollars. Thanks for the recommendation.

Thanks for the news, Jonathan. I'm looking forward to this game now. ^_^
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