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@ Springsteen
How are DVDs any different than games? The movie company doesn't make a profit off used DVD sales, same way a games publisher doesn't see a dime of the money made on used games. I'll reiterate my first point:
Once you pay for a game, it becomes YOURS to do with whatever you want. If you choose to sell the game to GameStop, it then becomes theirs. If people are willing to buy their used games, then they deserve every dime of that. Is it annoying for games developers? Hell yeah. But you know what? IT'S LEGAL TO DO SO. Honestly, he is being extremely fucking greedy, because GoW and GoW2 both sold like gangbusters, which should have been enough for him. Apparently not.
How are DVDs any different than games? The movie company doesn't make a profit off used DVD sales, same way a games publisher doesn't see a dime of the money made on used games. I'll reiterate my first point:
Once you pay for a game, it becomes YOURS to do with whatever you want. If you choose to sell the game to GameStop, it then becomes theirs. If people are willing to buy their used games, then they deserve every dime of that. Is it annoying for games developers? Hell yeah. But you know what? IT'S LEGAL TO DO SO. Honestly, he is being extremely fucking greedy, because GoW and GoW2 both sold like gangbusters, which should have been enough for him. Apparently not.
@ Hcapt
You don't own games, you license them. You have never in your entire life owned a videogame.
As for Nintendo making games people don't sell, that's all well and good, but I have no desire to play Nintendo games or games like them. As I said, I like story-driven FPS and RPGs, and while I tend to replay the classics quite a bit, more people do not. Most people, as I said, play through Bioshock and then never touch it again, so of course they sell it. That copy of Bioshock ends up being played by 5 people but only 1 of them contributed to the development of the game, as I said.
And arguing against digital distribution is just crazy talk... the Wii and PSP prove it is not coming? Really? Check out Steam and Xbox Live sometime.
You don't own games, you license them. You have never in your entire life owned a videogame.
As for Nintendo making games people don't sell, that's all well and good, but I have no desire to play Nintendo games or games like them. As I said, I like story-driven FPS and RPGs, and while I tend to replay the classics quite a bit, more people do not. Most people, as I said, play through Bioshock and then never touch it again, so of course they sell it. That copy of Bioshock ends up being played by 5 people but only 1 of them contributed to the development of the game, as I said.
And arguing against digital distribution is just crazy talk... the Wii and PSP prove it is not coming? Really? Check out Steam and Xbox Live sometime.
@stinging velvet: I don't remember signing a EULA when I purchased my last video game. Therefore, as far as I am concerned, the copy I bought, I OWN.
@ Usedtabe
Too bad it says on the box or in the manual you accept the EULA by playing the game.
Do you really think you can buy a multi-million dollar project in its entirety to do whatever you want with for $50? Really?
Too bad it says on the box or in the manual you accept the EULA by playing the game.
Do you really think you can buy a multi-million dollar project in its entirety to do whatever you want with for $50? Really?
@stingingVelvet: I would love to see if any judge would EVER rule that as legally binding. That's like those stupid apartments that put up signs on their gate that they are not responsible for any "damage". Bullshit. You can put up a sign of anything, but you better believe that if that gate malfunctions and causes damage, someone is responsible.
@stingingVelvet: Also, I may not own the entire project itself(no shit), but I do own that specific copy. At least in terms of being able to re-sell it I do. Make copies? No. But to do whatever I want with the ONE copy I paid for, yes.
@ Used
Yes, EULAs get challenged in courts... if they ever make it clear that buying a game is a sale, no matter what the EULA says, I would change what I say. As of right now though, the way things are setup, you are buying a license.
For the record I completely agree you own the game in most every sense, I play games on PC and it is important to me that I can always play the game even 20 years from now, which for a lot of games the publisher tries to restrict that. I boycott that kind of thing. I just sort of disagree with selling games for reasons I already listed.
Yes, EULAs get challenged in courts... if they ever make it clear that buying a game is a sale, no matter what the EULA says, I would change what I say. As of right now though, the way things are setup, you are buying a license.
For the record I completely agree you own the game in most every sense, I play games on PC and it is important to me that I can always play the game even 20 years from now, which for a lot of games the publisher tries to restrict that. I boycott that kind of thing. I just sort of disagree with selling games for reasons I already listed.
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