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I've professed my adoration and respect for David Jaffe many, many times. He's honest, outspoken, and usually dead on when it comes to his opinions on the gaming industry -- something he and Destructoid share in common. Such is the case with his latest rant that hits really close to home for a few of us that have been burned by the dickery caused by AOL Joystiq. Excuse me Trey Parker and Matt Stone, but you guys said this best:

See, there's three kinds of people: dicks, pussies, and assholes. Pussies (other video game sites) think everyone can get along, and dicks (Dtoid and Jaffe) just want to fuck all the time without thinking it through. But then you got your assholes (AOL Joystiq), Chuck. And all the assholes want us to shit all over everything! So, pussies may get mad at dicks once in a while, because pussies get fucked by dicks. But dicks also fuck assholes, Chuck. And if they didn't fuck the assholes, you know what you'd get? You'd get your dick and your pussy all covered in shit!

Now that I have you in the right frame of mind, take a look at Jaffe's wrath that was unleashed on the worst gaming site on the Internet in response to an unfair and unintelligent post by AOL Joystiq:

Fuck you, guys. Go fuck yourselves. What other developer makes a fucking change to a game when a review (IGN's in this case) has a good, valid point and is willing to open the fucking code up at the risk of more bugs to make the game better? Amazing.But hey, you guys are great, you guys rock. I hope Kotaku fucking puts your ass out of business, wanna be fucktards. And if you were actual journalists you would have read the motherfucking quote I posted on NEOGAF where I said because of the two bugs we needed to fix (not because I was afraid of the bargin bin) we had a window of opp. to fix the magnet problem. Assholes...total fucking assholes.

Read the entire rant after the jump.

[Via Wired

When reached for comment, Ron Workman had this to say:

"I don't see what the big deal is. I've been calling Joystink fucktards for a solid year. It seems to be common knowledge in the industry."

[UPDATE: Joystiq responds:

Dear David (can we call you David? We hope so ...),

We could be very wrong, of course, but we're pretty sure the "unnamed" website that drove you to swear off blogging was (the potentially French) Joystiq, and we think we know why.

First, a discussion on the simile which we presume set you off: "Like a little girl struggling to keep her favorite doll out of the garage sale bin ..." Obviously, neither you nor we have ever been a little girl, but we imagine that it's pretty tough to part with something so dear. A garage sale bin -- though we can see the implications to a "bargain" bin -- is just the most likely way said little girl would be forced to give her precious friend away. Perhaps a better simile would have been, "Like an overprotective mother carting her still-suckling toddler to kindergarten for the first time," ... actually, you know what? Let's just forget about the similes for now and concentrate on what else we wrote.

Before we scribble out "game journalist" from our photocopied business cards, we would like to note that we did read your post on NeoGAF and linked it. Twice. In fact, our entire post was written in response to yours, mentioning the rationale for postponing the game in the very first sentence: "to make some fixes and revise some of the criticisms." The entire second paragraph addresses those bug fixes, quotes your post on NeoGAF (see, told you we read it!) and then closes with a hopeful comment on the delay's reception (much like your post does).

Now, we could take umbrage with your misreading of our post; we could point out the irony of you criticizing our lack of reading and research; we could even point out the irony of you misinterpreting our "little girl" simile and acting out like ... well, let's just forget about all that. We don't want to keep fighting! We just want to tell you that we like your candor, always have. In fact, in looking back at all that we've said about you and your projects, we found it to be overwhelmingly positive (shared with you below). In short, don't give up blogging. And definitely don't give up blogging over a simple misunderstanding! The industry needs more candid developers eager to address their fans and critics alike, not one less.

Love,

The #!*?tards Your pals at Joystiq]

Awesome:

THAT'S IT FOR NOW...SEE YOU SOON.

Well the last few posts have caused more of a stir than I had hoped. One day I will learn my lesson: that people don't read the whole post, hell people don't tend to read the post at all, but rather a truncated version of the post posted on another website with just the part of the post that is inflamitory enough to get the haters in a tizzy and get hits on the site(s) in question.

But that's ok; I mean, it's the net right? You take the good with the bad; and I've had a hell of a lot of good from it and for that- as well as for the bad- I am grateful.

But for the time being, I'm going to go dark. My stylings have upset some folks within the biz I care very much about and that I can not live with. For me, it's always been silly, stupid fun...you know, giving what I get, talking like alot of folks on geeky message boards do, trash talking,etc. But I guess some folks have taken it to heart and that's not cool for me. End of the day, even the folks who spew much venom my way, I probably would like very much in real life. As I've said before, we're all geeks and if you can't get along with a fellow geek, then what's the point.

Anyway, so CAC is coming out...soon? I dunno. It's done, so I'm just waiting now for the official word. I'm sure you'll see the press release when Sony lets it out. But I will be playing online for sure, so hope to see you guys in the game!

But you know, I gotta get off a final parting shot before I go:

TO THE LAME ASS WEBSITE THAT SHALL GO UNNAMED- Fuck you, guys. Go fuck yourselves. What other developer makes a fucking change to a game when a review (IGN's in this case) has a good, valid point and is willing to open the fucking code up at the risk of more bugs to make the game better? Amazing.But hey, you guys are great, you guys rock. I hope Kotaku fucking puts your ass out of business, wanna be fucktards. And if you were actual journalists you would have read the motherfucking quote I posted on NEOGAF where I said because of the two bugs we needed to fix (not because I was afraid of the bargin bin) we had a window of opp. to fix the magnet problem. Assholes...total fucking assholes.

Ok, that's it. I will be back soon with an announcement and the next stage of this blog (and my life!) I'll post the news- assuming it all happens as planed...you never know- sometime this summer. I'll keep ya'll posted as the blog will remain open. Nothing set in stone, but the hope is to let you guys know what is up sometime in July.

Take it easy, have a GREAT first part of the summer. I will miss you guys!

David

ps. oh and JUST to make it CLEAR since it doesn't seem to be: I like GAMESPOT, have respect for them, always have. Hell I pay for the damn thing every year. I don't agree with the review but I've always dug the folks over there and continue to do so. Hope they will like our next game alot more!


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Rockvillian's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 11:56
Rockvillian
fucking!
Danzuke's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 11:57
Danzuke
damn.
JamesSorensen's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 11:57
JamesSorensen
problem is with the internet how it is.... gaming blogs and fun and usefull as they can be are also filled with rumors and bias and jabs at companies writers don't like (ya know like how the wii kids get mad at Summa)...


now when you go to Joystiq, you expect this.... but outright lies are kinda sad.

they lied and said he was reworking the game cause of a gamestop shit review. (we know gamestop reviews are moronic anyway, Tony Hawk 3 PERFECT 10) When he in fact said the game is down it just has a couple bugs they want to get out..
Sure they could release the game and patch it later liek everyone else does, but hey they wanna fix the shit before they sell it.. so good for them..

The guy works to make games for people and to have some little douchebag lie and try to bash you just cause he wishes he could make a video game, PLEASE....

you go Jaffe tell him to fuck off.
cjpkiller's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 12:00
cjpkiller
one thing sony does right consistently...
they let jaffe talk all the shit he wants...
jaffe wins.
phenrix's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 12:03
phenrix
poor joystiq, they just got their eurotrash asses handed to them.
topcow's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 12:03
topcow
Less QQ

More pewpew
Milquetoast's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 12:03
Milquetoast
I don't like Joystiq because they have one or two editors that whine about how EB Games opens some of their new games and then ATTEMPTS TO KIND OF SELL THOSE GAMES TO CUSTOMERS. So I would like to jump in on the hate train also, even though I read Joystiq all the time. YEAH, FUCK THOSE GUYS.
Joseph Leray's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 12:03
Joseph Leray
Where's the queue to give David Jaffe a handjob?

Form a line! No pushing!
Tino's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 12:05
Tino
I can right out say I love this guy.
bhive01's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 12:05
bhive01
Now JaffeToid makes sense.
Tino's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 12:06
Tino
Oh, and Jaffetoid ftw.
generaldane's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 12:06
generaldane
Jaffe is a fucktard too
OutrageousToob's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 12:07
OutrageousToob
Wow! Awesome! Go Jaffe!

Industry shit-talking... how sweet it is!

galagabug 's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 12:11
galagabug
this is hilarious.
Kryptinite's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 12:13
Kryptinite
Who the fuck is David Jaffe? Oh that guy who made God of War? Whatelse has he done....

Yeah..

He's still right though.
BahamutZero's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 12:13
BahamutZero
PENIS-FIGHT!!!!!!
DrRockso's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 12:14
DrRockso
Ooooh, NOW it makes sense.

Haha. Fucking Joystiq.
Nick Chester's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 12:21
Nick Chester
Twisted Metal! A Mickey Mouse game that was pretty solid, too. That's what else he's made.

Who is going to be surprised when Jaffe no longer works for Sony and has his own studio, independend of any first parties? Next title going multi-platform, perhaps? Hmmmm... just throwing it out there.

Big companies like Sony don't like wild, PR nightmare outbursts like this, do they? Also: David -- first round is on me.
tazarthayoot's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 12:26
tazarthayoot
@Nick

As awesome as that would be, I'm pretty sure Sony will provide him with enough headless goats and naked women (oh yeah, probably money, too) to keep him on the side of Team PS.

This man is a god in my books. Jaffe on Podtoid! IF IT EVER FUCKING COMES BACK THAT IS.
Snaileb 's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 12:29
Snaileb
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I was wondering WTF the JAFFE-TOID banner was doing up there all morning. Also, the clown shoes picture was fucking priceless!


Go Jaffe.
Niero's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 12:29
Niero
Ha! Well, at least we got one good last loose cannon out of you Rob :)
Mabec's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 12:33
Mabec
So many retards and so little time... where do i begin
DJDuffy 's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 12:35
DJDuffy
the whole Joystiq thing is a little "captain obvious" but I still love how Jaffe cuts his meat with a butcher knife..you go, you!
perri's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 12:38
perri
Everybody comment over at joystiq and link to this post. yay or nay? Cuz I'm not going to do it myself.....
kenoji's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 12:43
kenoji
O_O Wow.
So much drama, haha...Why fight?

Well I only read three blogs kotaku, joystiq, and of course destructoid. Each of them have a distinctive style and voice. I relate to more stories that kotaku posts, Joystiq is more rigid, and destructoid to me are more mature/less restricted. But the most important thing is they are all funny (and of course contain gaming news) and thats why I really read them.

Snaileb 's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 12:44
Snaileb
@ D'toid editors : How long have you guys been waiting to blog with "AOL Joystiq are fucking assholes" in the title?

LOL!

They pulled the story from their site!
brad drac's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 12:44
brad drac
All jokes and namecalling aside, jaffe did nothing wrong. He's got as much right to make angry posts about stuff that pisses us off on internet forums as the rest of us, and [url=http://www.joystiq.com/2007/05/01/jaffe-un-promises-calling-all-cars-delayed/joystiq's comments[/url] were unnecessarily derogatory. Delaying a release date is always better than releasing buggy code, in my books. I also like the way he doesn't put on a PR facade. He talks as much shit as he wants, just like the rest of us gamers.

But truth be told, all this bullshit's pretty meaningless. All that matters is him making good games, and it's still possible to do that if you are a complete asshole.
brad drac's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 12:46
brad drac
Bah. Erroneously tagged...
proper link.
World Famous's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 12:48
World Famous
"@ D'toid editors : How long have you guys been waiting to blog with "AOL Joystiq are fucking assholes" in the title? "

It's like Christmas for us right now.
perri's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 12:56
perri
we should all spam joystiq right now, honestly. I know its stupid and immature,but think about it! Closest thing to a war that the internet can get...Besides war games...not that I'm saying I want a war or I like war...um, nm...
tazarthayoot's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 12:56
tazarthayoot
Is Papa Workman donning a white beard and red suit, shouting "Also, cocks" and "shoop da whoop" to all the little girls and boys?

Or has he passed out with no pants on, wearing only boots, and holding a bottle of Jager?
World Famous's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 12:57
World Famous
A little bit of both.
tazarthayoot's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 12:57
tazarthayoot
@Perri

Why? What's the point? Who gives a fuck, honestly? We all know Joysuck are a bunch of fuckups, why make them look like the better man by constantly spamming LOL ALSO COCKS on all their posts?

Jaffe-toid will do just fine.
atheistium's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 12:58
atheistium
LOL AOL JOYSTIQ!
Jsun's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 13:02
Jsun
Joystiq sucks, I've seen them just take shit from Destructoid all the time. Plus their editors never have anything nice to say about games that come out. Always so fucking negative. Thats why I love DESTRUCTOID.
splotki's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 13:04
splotki
I heard DAve Jaffe eats little children for breakfast.
mandlebaum123's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 13:05
mandlebaum123
Umm, the article is still on Joystiq, and clearly it was a joke. They said what the real problem was in the article. This place makes jokes all the time. What am I missing?
dukerayburn's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 13:07
dukerayburn
Joystink? Really? Is Weird Al writing for Destructoid now?

Jesus Christ, I agree that Summa's exit from Joystiq was uncalled for, but this is just childish. Jaffe is an outspoken developer, that's obvious, and this situation is no different from when any other developer delays a game, it's just not happening in official channels. So if Joystiq wants to criticize him for making claims that he can't back up, that's their game. They didn't miss anything on this story, they weren't overly harsh, they just reported. Jaffe and Dtoid are the ones who come out looking like assholes. Quote all the South Park you want.
rasput1n's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 13:11
rasput1n
Most of us here do not work in the "industry" and just love games. We also are into Dtoid cause honestly, it is the only site I can find that seems to be in it for the same reason as the gamers.

What is Joystiq like, I guess Summa really knows and that is why he is here. I did not start as a Summa fan. I did not like his work much at Joystiq (cause I also was up until midnight on day :P ) but here at Dtoid he has become one of my favorites. Thanks for the good work Rob (BTW, are you leaving Dtoid????)!

To hear someone who created such an incredible game as GoW (do you really need more than that on your resume???) speak honestly about the industry and let the gamers know what is going on, it is awesome!
mandlebaum123's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 13:13
mandlebaum123
I only got into these sites after summa got here. After reading his posts, and hearing clips of him on podtoid and EG, I think he is in the wrong profession.
ShadowXOR's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 13:19
ShadowXOR
I love Destructoid but let me tell you Joystiq has one MAJOR advantage over Destructoid:

Joystiq readers don't have to put up with the trash that Summa posts (at least not anymore). Those lucky bastards.

I thought you were quitting Summa, what the hell happened? Or did you just want to make a jab for at Joystiq since they fired you like Destructoid should be doing?
fixelated's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 13:19
fixelated
fanboyism has reached the blogosphere and i love it! wow, didn't know there was such hate for joystiq, but after reading jaffe's comments it makes me question whatever integrity they do have. it's funny... joystiq was one of the first site's i'd hit every morning. they've progressed way down on that list -- quality-wise they've gone way down. whereas destructoid and kotaku are my must-read blogs every morning.
domataos's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 13:21
domataos
If Joystiq could even touch Jaffe in talent they'd be making God of War and not be getting fired by AOL in 2 weeks. They have the worst gaming site on the net and they should do as many have said and fuck off already.
rasput1n's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 13:26
rasput1n
"Joystiq readers don't have to put up with the trash that Summa posts (at least not anymore). Those lucky bastards. "

Those are the things that I actually like about Dtiod. They are not kissing everyones ass. Yes, Summa hates the Wii, but seems to like the DS. So, in my opinion, that is fair. It is not like he hates Nintendo.

Once again, thanks Dtoid for the hard work!
Nick Chester's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 13:28
Nick Chester
Wait, wait ... did someone say Destructoid was more mature than the other two "big three" gaming blogs?

I'm speechless. Also...POOP.
rosalindaveue's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 13:30
rosalindaveue
I thought Summa quit yesterday after his 1000th Nintendo bash. 05/01/2007 15:46: "Consider it done. My time writing here is finished." Guess he was joking.
ShadowXOR's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 13:36
ShadowXOR
rosalindaveue: He wasn't joking he's just a little bitch that goes back on his word. If you keep reading he talks about it and was very serious. I think he was crying.
Topher Cantler's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 13:46
Topher Cantler
Mickey Mania was a great game, the Retroforce crew was just talking about that last week.

It's such a fine day. Joystink hate is good for the soul.
CypherVR's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 13:48
CypherVR
oh shi-
perri's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/02/2007 13:54
perri
I said nm, haha. Its dumb
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