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I'll support anything that gets more people to play Dark Souls. I have a feeling that the nature of the game will get an even bigger crowd of people on PCs.
I have no problem supporting this as long as they keep the backend servers seperate. While I know there are hacks for consoles, it is way more common on PC than on the console. Good luck PC people. While Devs may hate the used game market for consoles, they despise the piracy on the PC market.
@Janklogs Got anything to back that statement up? PC gaming is stronger than ever, just look at Steam and Portal 2 specificly. PC games are making money just fine.
I wouldn't mind seeing it. The publisher loses nothing if they put it on PC, right? After all, they're not gaining anything for -not- putting the game on PC. And most pirates wouldn't buy the game if they can pirate it. I always think that PC versions of games are a smart idea, and that withholding games from the PC just because "baww people pirate and don't like our DRM wah wah" Ubisoft-style is the equivalent of a child taking their ball and going home all angry.
Don't be Ubisoft.
Don't be Ubisoft.
Well if they do bring it to PC let's hope they get clever like the serious Sam crowd did in regards to fighting pirates. God knows what invincible horror the Dark Souls game would have lurking in it if you pirate it.
@ren
Nah, he's just trollin.
Speaking of, I must put my master race signature on this ballot to help further the good cause. Hopefully they are smart enough to throw it on steam.
Also, if they optimized it the game would look amazing.
Nah, he's just trollin.
Speaking of, I must put my master race signature on this ballot to help further the good cause. Hopefully they are smart enough to throw it on steam.
Also, if they optimized it the game would look amazing.
Namco Bandai Offices:
PR Guy: Hey, what if someone pirated Dark Souls?
From Soft: Well, we make an invisible AI that kills people in one hit, sending them all the way to the back of the game, with no armor, swords, and 25% less campfires. and all of the bosses are 50% Stronger
PR: EXCELLENT.
PR Guy: Hey, what if someone pirated Dark Souls?
From Soft: Well, we make an invisible AI that kills people in one hit, sending them all the way to the back of the game, with no armor, swords, and 25% less campfires. and all of the bosses are 50% Stronger
PR: EXCELLENT.
Oh play the game Jim Sterling. The "difficulty" is a marketing tool you've bit hook, line and sinker. It's really not that bad.
The difficulty adds realism to the game: true adventure and a sense of danger. If you want realism in games this is the route to go, not the LA Noire "Hollywood replica" route.
The difficulty adds realism to the game: true adventure and a sense of danger. If you want realism in games this is the route to go, not the LA Noire "Hollywood replica" route.
Why? How many games released on PC will never see the light of day on a console? They should stop whining and play the many other great games that console gamers will never see. Ungrateful gits.
PC gamers. Console gamers. All gamers. The fucking Berlin Wall shouldn't be running between us. I support this petition.
@TechnicolorDewDrop
On 4chan yeah, nobody here though.
It's not going to happen - Namdai are going to be terrified of piracy.
On 4chan yeah, nobody here though.
It's not going to happen - Namdai are going to be terrified of piracy.
Am I the only one thinking that only 4,800 who signed will get the game legally and at full price? I think this is not yet a number worth considering for NB.
Nobody in this comment section has ever pirated anything. Nope, not a single person. We are all the patron saints of "buying-shit-we-like" aren't we.
What we should do is sign a petition to have destructoid do a real review of this game that actually gives this masterpiece the justice it deserves.
Is it really that hard to port games to pc? I'm sure a game with dark souls's hype could turn a little profit at least, even with the pc's guaranteed 98.6% piracy rates.
I'd love to see DS on PC but I'm not gonna sign the petition because I don't intend to buy it. I don't think you should sign it unless you do. Isn't the whole purpose of the petition for Namco to see if it will be profitable? If a million people sign the petition and just a fraction of those actually buy it, it will only serve to cripple Namco.
This PC version needs to happen. My dream of modding Dark Souls into a more dark and gritty version of Zelda is becoming a possibility!
All they need to do is make it a decent package- A decent hard copy guide like the old demons souls special edition one, soundtrack, fancy art book- sold. You can't pirate a fancy package- same reason I'll always buy certain albums in hard form and not MP3. Nothing beats a nice package. I feel like the dark souls console package could have been better, I'd rather have had a guide with maybe a bit of art incorporated- It wasn't worth losing the hard copy guide for the artbook.
@Janklogs:
I think you missed this article. If PC games are a money sink, the sink is huge and clogged and money is pouring out all over the freaking floor.
I think you missed this article. If PC games are a money sink, the sink is huge and clogged and money is pouring out all over the freaking floor.
The real "power" of the PC version would be a chance to fix lag in certain "problem" areas (Blighttown, Painted World), and help boast the online features. I feel like the Gravelord Covenant was one of the coolest features in Dark Souls that was never realized because the Covenant is essentially broken.
Not sure if I mentioned this anywhere here yet, but you can pre-order The Darkness II on PC for $42 on Amazon (US). It's a Steam code that they give you, and it's $50 directly through Steam.
@Felix: I'd expect that not even all 48k of those people would buy it at full price. However, the petition is only indicative of people engaged in gaming enough to actually sign a petition about such a thing. I'm sure Dark Souls PC could easily clear 120k sales, if you include the general populace. (For reference, the 360 version sold ~360k in its first 10 weeks, while the PS3 version sold ~970k, according to vgchartz.)
In any case, almost 50,000 people expressing interest in your product at $50 - 60 each is nothing to sneeze at. The difficulty is determining if that $2.5 - 3 million in probable revenue is worth the cost of porting the game to PC.
Namco Bandai have practically no PC experience, so they'd likely have to outsource the port. If they ran the math and could come up with a finished product for $1 - 1.5 million, it makes good sense. I would call this an opportunity for Nixxes (Lara Croft & The Guardian of Light, Deus Ex: Human Revolution) or a similar experienced porting team.
In any case, almost 50,000 people expressing interest in your product at $50 - 60 each is nothing to sneeze at. The difficulty is determining if that $2.5 - 3 million in probable revenue is worth the cost of porting the game to PC.
Namco Bandai have practically no PC experience, so they'd likely have to outsource the port. If they ran the math and could come up with a finished product for $1 - 1.5 million, it makes good sense. I would call this an opportunity for Nixxes (Lara Croft & The Guardian of Light, Deus Ex: Human Revolution) or a similar experienced porting team.
Will Dark Souls, or better yet Demon's Souls, play well on a mouse and keyboard though? A game like Resident Evil plays differently on console and PC, so does Skyrim. If they tweak the controls for the PC version, that alters some of the difficulty in DS, so it wouldn't be the same.
This fat bastard just has to throw in a comment about piracy in every PC related article doesn't he?
"Am I the only one who sees no beneficial reason for them to do this?"
Beneficial for whom?
For PC gamers, this would mean access to a great game.
For From, it would mean access to a market that LOVES hardcore RPGs, and which currently happens to be the largest single video game market (even with all the piracy).
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/07/05/pcgaming-trends-2011/ - Gives you some more background on the current size of the PC market. Keep in mind that the "Console" category includes all current and past home consoles AND handhelds. Also, the PC digital and PC retail categories do NOT include the social network market, the casual website market, or the MMO market.
Beneficial for whom?
For PC gamers, this would mean access to a great game.
For From, it would mean access to a market that LOVES hardcore RPGs, and which currently happens to be the largest single video game market (even with all the piracy).
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/07/05/pcgaming-trends-2011/ - Gives you some more background on the current size of the PC market. Keep in mind that the "Console" category includes all current and past home consoles AND handhelds. Also, the PC digital and PC retail categories do NOT include the social network market, the casual website market, or the MMO market.
Yea, I'm a PC Gamer at heart, but I don't think this would be a wise move. The is a console game, through in and through out.
I have heard DarkSouls has been compared as to a spiritual successor to Kings Field. If so I might be highly interested because I loved KF1&2 would have snagged the PS2 release but the only place I was able to find it was a used game store, it barely worked when I asked to demo it and looked as if it had been cleaned with a cheese grater.
Anyhow please confirm?
Anyhow please confirm?
@Scuffles
King Field is a pretty slow game, however it has a very old school flavor to it. Kind of feels like a roguelike. I find them pretty enjoyable though, so long as you can get used to the controls and mechanics. The PS2 game looks much better than the others, but i havent sunk much time into it to say its too much different from the first few.
King Field is a pretty slow game, however it has a very old school flavor to it. Kind of feels like a roguelike. I find them pretty enjoyable though, so long as you can get used to the controls and mechanics. The PS2 game looks much better than the others, but i havent sunk much time into it to say its too much different from the first few.
@ Evil Champ
What determines a game is purely for PC or console? Input method? Target audience?
If the team porting the game is skilled enough, it should make no difference.
What determines a game is purely for PC or console? Input method? Target audience?
If the team porting the game is skilled enough, it should make no difference.
@WFMS:
Yes, because it's not as if publishers actually think the PC is a haven for piracy to the point that every major gaming site seems to report on someone from Publisher X making that claim once a day and twice on Sundays, is it? It's just that crazy old troll Jim Sterling stirring people up again!
Oh, wait.
Yes, because it's not as if publishers actually think the PC is a haven for piracy to the point that every major gaming site seems to report on someone from Publisher X making that claim once a day and twice on Sundays, is it? It's just that crazy old troll Jim Sterling stirring people up again!
Oh, wait.
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