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Dark Souls info: 60-hour play time, no demo, more photo

Over on 4Gamer, there's a juicy interview with Dark Souls director Hidetaka Miyazaki regarding a variety of factoids relevant to your death-craving souls. As always, the lovely Andriasang was there to fill in the gaps with a translation. Here's a brief sampling of what was talked about.

Dark Souls will be a broad game not only in terms of its areas, but its estimated play time as well. We're looking at 60 hours compared to its predecessor-of-sorts Demon's Souls, which Miyazaki put at 30 to 40.

I would say that gamers know what they're getting into with Dark Souls, but that's not necessarily true now that the audience is being expanded to Xbox 360 players. As such, it's unfortunate to report that there won't be a demo; From Software can't convey what they'd like to in such a short amount of time.

And lastly, downloadable content -- there likely won't be any based on current plans. If there is, though, expect "something interesting" using online functionality. Don't expect, however, paid in-game items.

Hidetaka Miyazaki Discusses Dark Souls [Andriasang via Eurogamer]








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MyLittleHero's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2011 21:05
MyLittleHero
60 hours? Too long. Really, who has that much time to put into a game. I love 4-8 hour games.
Wedge's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2011 21:06
Wedge
Hnnnnnnnnnnnnnngh. So goooooooooood. This year feels so hollow knowing I'm just waiting for the GOTY to come out later on now.
NecroMongo's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2011 21:07
NecroMongo
People that liked Demon's Souls...obviously.
Andyman067's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2011 21:07
Andyman067
Lots of people have that much time. There are plenty of great short games, but a real, meaty, manly game like this is just what the doctor ordered. Real men, step right up. Children need not apply.

God, I am so excited.
~JnRx Teh Jokester~'s Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2011 21:08
~JnRx Teh Jokester~
Idk if I have 60 hours to spend on games these days being an adult doesn't leave me free to do such things...but I guess it makes the game seem longer..I like short games as well
THEvalrog's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2011 21:14
THEvalrog
this sounds too good to be true =D
Jordan Devore's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2011 21:21
Jordan Devore
While I agree that shorter games are, for the most part, what I want, it is nice to have one massive game in your rotation to go back to. Assuming it's a well-made game, that is.
Rammstein's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2011 21:22
Rammstein
I let Jim Sterling's rampant fanboyism fool me once on the first piece of garbage game. No thanks. Inb4 "LOL IT WAS 2 HARD 4 U, U SUK"

Fool me once, shame on you... etc., etc.
kefkaesque's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2011 21:24
kefkaesque
...People are COMPLAINING about length now?

That's... I don't even know.
Stigmeyer's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2011 21:24
Stigmeyer
60?? I plan on spending well over 100!! Maybe 200!! The only real problem will be timing with Skyrim, Uncharted 3, and The Last Guardian (among others) releasing around the same time and I WILL want to devote LOADS of time to those as well. Gads I wish I still got a month off for the holidays. Ah, college. :'(
Live by the Sword's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2011 21:25
Live by the Sword
Demon's Souls was only 30-40 hrs long? It took me roughly 100 hrs to beat it.Then again it was my first true go at an RPG since Parasite Eve back on the PS1.
paradoxphantom's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2011 21:29
paradoxphantom
game length is like sex, the longer the better.
Mr Andy Dixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2011 21:30
Mr Andy Dixon
I'm sure it's going to be difficult for Jayson619 to hear that this game will be longer (and, from what I can tell, better looking) than its predecessor, what with his claims that the 360 would "gimp" it and all...
Daxelman's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2011 21:30
Daxelman
No demo means I'm probably not going to give this the light of day.

Shame, I like medieval looking stuff like this, but I can't see myself buying this title. Just like Demon Souls.
BrowneyeWinkin's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2011 21:39
BrowneyeWinkin
this is why Dead Space 2 and EA are evil
KingSigy's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2011 21:40
KingSigy
Demon's Souls took me around 22 hours to beat. I think this 60 hour judgment is off. The game will probably be double the length of the first around 40 hours. Not bad at all.
Cynical Gamer's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2011 21:40
Cynical Gamer
All we need now is a release date. Dark Souls doesn't need a demo. It will be awesome like the first game.
tigervomit's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2011 21:45
tigervomit
Wantwantwantwantwantwant
Zarwid Thwic's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2011 21:49
Zarwid Thwic
Isolation <3
Comrade Snarky's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2011 21:51
Comrade Snarky
I do prefer short games these days, as I have limited free time, but there's nothing inherently wrong with long games. It's just that most games are longer than they need to/should be.
otogi_guy's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2011 21:51
otogi_guy
60 hours of fetch questing.

If i play this game ill stick to the main quest, thanks.
Zeik56's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2011 21:54
Zeik56
There's no such thing as a (good) 4-8 hour RPG.

Anyway, I'll probably be picking this game up at release now that I've had to properly play and appreciate Demon's Souls. Sad that it doesn't seem Atlus USA will be localizing this one, I'd like to see another nice "Stop Importing Edition".
ScottyG's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2011 21:57
ScottyG
... that seems like a pretty lame excuse for no demo, given how much of a niche title Demon Souls is. Just have a small area so people can at least try out the game mechanics, see if they like it.
dantemustdie's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2011 21:59
dantemustdie
Make it 2,500 hours long and we'll talk.

@otogl_guy
Fetch questing? Did you ever play Demon's Souls? The entire game was the main quest, there was no fetching. Considering this is Demon's Souls 2, I can assume this is a 60 hour main quest (with a lot of those hours spent from dying)
dfielder's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2011 22:01
dfielder
Demons Souls is the best RPG ive played this gen hands down , I'm stoked for this.
Andyman067's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2011 22:09
Andyman067
@otogi_guy: There's no fetch questing in this game if it's anything like Demon's Souls.

@Rammstein: What was wrong with it?
Henry_Swanson's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2011 22:10
Henry_Swanson
I've played through Demon's Souls 3 times, can't wait to get learned all over again.
otogi_guy's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2011 22:17
otogi_guy
I dont want to knock it too much, as ive put plenty hours into Monster Hunter and Pokemon.

but, any game that claims to be that long is having repetition to extreme levels. If there are no fetch questing in Demon Souls than they are disguising it very well.

From Software, please just make Otogi 3.
Altraum's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2011 22:17
Altraum
@Live by the Sword

Well, that means you probably never played Dragon Quest VIII, which leaves me with a profound sadness.
discostalin's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2011 22:19
discostalin
I just got Demon's Souls, and so far it has to be one of the most dullest gaming experiences I've ever had.

The most entertaining part of this game is having the corpses getting caught between your legs and watching them dangle around as you run.
Corduroy Turtle's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2011 22:23
Corduroy Turtle
I really should give Demon's Souls another go. That first (and only) night was a rough one indeed.
Zeik56's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2011 22:32
Zeik56
@discostalin - Let me guess, you haven't even gotten past the first stage yet?
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2011 22:40
Chris Carter
40 hours for Demon's Souls is bogus.

It took me around 14 to beat it completely, and I dicked around a lot. I mean, that number could be for side quests, but really, any game can be 40 hours if you like it enough.
PrinceHeir's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2011 23:03
PrinceHeir
@Rammstein

i don't think the game needs to fool you. you are already a fool to begin with.
iv'e seen you derailed topics about japanese games, i wouldn't be surprised if your not gonna play it just because it's made by japanese people. so yeah take your Xenophobia up your ass and bring gordon and his crowbar with it.


i definitely can't wait for this, i think the length in demon's souls is good enough so more is always welcome :D

this alongside The Witcher 2, a Monster Hunter PS3 and hopefully Demon Souls 2 will keep me a lifetime of RPG's :)
leshrac55's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2011 23:07
leshrac55
Can't wait for this... Can someone recommend something else like this? I started looking into Knight's Field but... man, watching a Youtube of the first one.. it just looks like garbage. I'm not sure I could handle seeing that on my 60" TV. =)
Fearzone's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2011 23:07
Fearzone
They know full well they'd lose 50-75% of sales if they had a demo.
Letters numbers and spaces are ok's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2011 23:17
Letters numbers and spaces are ok
http://forum.insomnia.ac/viewtopic.php?t=3433

^^ much more detail about the game fyi
Zeik56's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2011 23:58
Zeik56
@Fearzone - How so? The target audience is going to be fans of Demon's Souls, which I can't see any reason this game is going to turn them away. Anybody who didn't like Demon's Souls obviously wouldn't be interested in Dark Souls regardless of a demo.
Vanilla Gorilla's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2011 00:11
Vanilla Gorilla
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Letters numbers and spaces are ok's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2011 00:13
Letters numbers and spaces are ok
@ Jayson619

That's true. Maybe game install via HHD? Install disc one and two? Then again Demon's Souls wasn't that large, how big are double sided DVD discs? 14gb?
SlimySlime's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2011 00:13
SlimySlime
no EA-style DLC . I love these guys.
mellotron's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2011 01:06
mellotron
I am really, really looking forward to this game. 60 hours out of the box, no DLC, and it's a hardcore RPG? Hell fucking yes. I think I've been waiting for this game for decades (yikes I am old).
Thulsa Dooom's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2011 01:29
Thulsa Dooom
Now THIS is how you do dark fantasy and deliver a sequel/spiritual successor. From Software gets it. Reward your fans with more of the same but refining the poor parts and also open it up to a larger audience. Cheesy one liners and awkward sex scenes don't equal a compelling dark fantasy game. Take note Bioware.

Tough choice though, either Dark Souls or The Witcher 2 for my possible GOTY. Skyrim's in the mix too...it's good to be an rpg fan this year.
runtheplacered's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2011 01:33
runtheplacered
@fearzone,

"They know full well they'd lose 50-75% of sales if they had a demo."

Wow, you really pulled those numbers out of nowhere, didn't you? I don't see why they'd lose sales from a demo. Their reason sounds valid enough. No need for the fail theories.
OLD SCHOOL's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2011 02:08
OLD SCHOOL
Day one purchase. I'm afraid that this will take away all the time I had set aside for SKYRIM...
Fearzone's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2011 02:10
Fearzone
Yes I did pull the numbers out of my ass.

But it is THEIR reasoning which is fail.
Doos's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2011 02:25
Doos
Demon's Souls didn't have a demo. It sold enough to warrant a sequel.

I rented it. Then I bought it. If you're interested enough, you'll do the same.

Or you won't.

I'll be buying it.
Wrenchfarm's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2011 02:29
Wrenchfarm
I know its kind of a Dtoid meme to say you have bonners and whatnot for a game, but seriously, I LUST for this game. There have been a few moments of weakness recently where I considered picking up a PS3 just to play Demon Souls and MGS4. So Dark Souls is not only going to be a longer, meatier, more refined version of Demon Souls, it might just save me money if I can hold out!
Wrenchfarm's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2011 03:37
Wrenchfarm
@Jayson
We get it, you like the PS3. Good for you.
Malfegor's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2011 03:55
Malfegor
From Software = Gods.
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