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As for the scene itself, until we play it, it's only as controversial as we make it out to be.
As for the scene itself, until we play it, it's only as controversial as we make it out to be.
It's amazing how predictable the news media can be after the predictable predicted outrage from the videogame news media.
But let's disregard that and rage about the news media.
RAGE!
But let's disregard that and rage about the news media.
RAGE!
What about depictions of terrorist attacks in films? I know the whole "games are more visceral" argument will probably come up again, but I'm sure there are depictions of terrorism in other mediums that are similarly "unwholesome." It's that age-old fear of new mediums remanifesting itself, and a veiled attempt to erode at the freedoms of art as a form of social commentary on Vaz's part.
Hell hath no fury like the British right-wing press.
Hell hath no fury like the British right-wing press.
This is so fucking pathetic. People like him are the reason of the games still being a medium, that can't be even compared to movies or music.
Why do i still have to hide the fact that i enjoy playing video games, so i won't be considered as a childish person, that can't even wipe his ass correctly.
IT'S BECAUSE OF HIM
RAGE
I will eat him! NOM NOM NOM
Why do i still have to hide the fact that i enjoy playing video games, so i won't be considered as a childish person, that can't even wipe his ass correctly.
IT'S BECAUSE OF HIM
RAGE
I will eat him! NOM NOM NOM
It's stuff like this that makes me angry.
Why on earth would be waste time sorting out the economy or immigration when we can witter and moan about video games?
You don't see people complaining so much about the film industry when controversial films such as Natural Born Killers, that contain a lot more graphic scenes that COD MW2 could ever dream up, are available on any HMV shelf.
Silly British government.There's a reason why it's an 18 rated game.
We have a ratings system for a reason, so why get all uppity about it?
I still think people should be able to buy what they want. Liberalism ftw!
Why on earth would be waste time sorting out the economy or immigration when we can witter and moan about video games?
You don't see people complaining so much about the film industry when controversial films such as Natural Born Killers, that contain a lot more graphic scenes that COD MW2 could ever dream up, are available on any HMV shelf.
Silly British government.There's a reason why it's an 18 rated game.
We have a ratings system for a reason, so why get all uppity about it?
I still think people should be able to buy what they want. Liberalism ftw!
Ban this sick filth.
Although, fun to note; there's more picture than text in the Daily Hate's article. Seems that despite the headline's sensationalism, they couldn't actually find that much wrong to actually say about the game, or anyone other than Keith Vaz to get nasty quotes from.
Although, fun to note; there's more picture than text in the Daily Hate's article. Seems that despite the headline's sensationalism, they couldn't actually find that much wrong to actually say about the game, or anyone other than Keith Vaz to get nasty quotes from.
wait, is the european market big enough to make a difference now? so they'll sell a couple thousand less copies out of millions. big whoop
ParaParaKing: This story isn't on the outrage of the gaming press, something I've already previously addressed. As a man who prides himself on research, I thought you'd at least know that.
Why give them the free press for such crap kneejerk journalism?
Its an adult game for adult gamers, in a country where the public owning guns is banned, anyway. Sure, I kind of have no problem with them being affended. For the games industry to mature, feathers will have to be ruffled, simple as.
Its an adult game for adult gamers, in a country where the public owning guns is banned, anyway. Sure, I kind of have no problem with them being affended. For the games industry to mature, feathers will have to be ruffled, simple as.
One of the many reasons why I hate Britain these days. The other three thousand being chavs.
They need to actually play the game before they say things like this, and even then it's just pointless mud-slinging. Just because everyone with a brain has gone to the internet for news, doesn't mean you can just make shit up.
They need to actually play the game before they say things like this, and even then it's just pointless mud-slinging. Just because everyone with a brain has gone to the internet for news, doesn't mean you can just make shit up.
Vaz moans. British Politicians will follow standard procedure and do nothing whilst collecting fat paychecks at the tax payers expense. Sunrise. Sunset.
Welcome to England, dear chap.
Welcome to England, dear chap.
Oh this makes me so mad I'm going to write a long blog post explaining why nobody takes games seriously next to films or whatever
It's funny to think that articles like these will actually hurt the game. As biased and one-sided as it is, bad publicity is actually good publicity. More people talking about the game, whether it be in good or bad terms, helps to sell more copies of the game. When I first heard that MW2 will have a level thatlet you team up with terrorists I was even more eager to play the game. So ironically all the Daily Mail and Keith Vaz are doing is advertising the game.
@Bobyoko
The European market is probably the biggest market (or at least just as big as the US) in the game industry. And the Daily Mail is just a UK paper.
The European market is probably the biggest market (or at least just as big as the US) in the game industry. And the Daily Mail is just a UK paper.
The comments on the story from the Daily Mail are interesting. My favorite:
"Awesome my son will love it!"
"Awesome my son will love it!"
if they're not going to ban it they should shut the fuck up.
I was going to boycott it, but i saw the us in flames bit and the rage over the terrorist bit and pre ordered the fucker!
Well done hate mongers you secured at least one sale!
Any publicity is good publicity.
I was going to boycott it, but i saw the us in flames bit and the rage over the terrorist bit and pre ordered the fucker!
Well done hate mongers you secured at least one sale!
Any publicity is good publicity.
i know some british kid will suffer the agony of there parent's believing this guy and not allowing they kid to play this game even thought they bought ten times more violent games for there kid in the past. i know because my parents did the same, but, i wasn't so cooperative
Oh joy, they don't even live in America. What's wrong with playing a terrorist attack scene? Isn't the game you vs. terrorists anyways???
Later than expected.
This will only generate more hype around the game... do they really think they can deter youngsters/gamers by saying 'level of violence in this game'.
Yes a few mums and dads may twig to NOT letting their children have the game (which is a GOOD thing) but it will only make more people buy it!
This will only generate more hype around the game... do they really think they can deter youngsters/gamers by saying 'level of violence in this game'.
Yes a few mums and dads may twig to NOT letting their children have the game (which is a GOOD thing) but it will only make more people buy it!
... they may have taken the bait... but Infinity Ward was the one who stuck the bleeding half dead deer out in front of the wolves den...
Man, I am really getting tired of the reactionary gaming press. It would be amazing to see a site like Destructoid examine both sides of the issue in an article like this.
@ Project
Mine was dispatched friday morning, so (fingers crossed) it'll be mine tomorrow!!!!!
HU FUCKING RAH
Mine was dispatched friday morning, so (fingers crossed) it'll be mine tomorrow!!!!!
HU FUCKING RAH
Same old, same old.
Politicians talking shit and biased media backing them up while smearing the other side. And idiots who suck it all up.
Politicians talking shit and biased media backing them up while smearing the other side. And idiots who suck it all up.
@taumpytears "Man, I am really getting tired of the reactionary gaming press. It would be amazing to see a site like Destructoid examine both sides of the issue in an article like this."
Agreed. This is the industry and society in general: it is perfectly fine to say an opinion, throw in a link, and exhibit anger, but when it comes to actually backing up the things you say in detail and taking in the other side as possibly having some points to make, that is not being objective. This isn't just blogs, but how people respond to things in everyday life. When was the last time you were able to talk to the people in this gaming community without being heckled or told that a viewpoint is correct in a single sentence? But, when it comes to publishing stories, maybe some more journalistic integrity is needed. It isn't easy to write objectively, but when you don't write and act objectively, it garners disrespect. Look at what this game is doing to the companies making it, the people reacting to it, and those reporting on it. The issue is not really the game it all, it is that we lack the ability to consider that there isn't necessarily a correct right vs wrong way of looking at things. You, me, anyone can justify their thoughts as much or as little as they want, but when you aren't willing to even think from another person's perspective, than how well do you know people at all?
... sorry, I'm ranty today.
Agreed. This is the industry and society in general: it is perfectly fine to say an opinion, throw in a link, and exhibit anger, but when it comes to actually backing up the things you say in detail and taking in the other side as possibly having some points to make, that is not being objective. This isn't just blogs, but how people respond to things in everyday life. When was the last time you were able to talk to the people in this gaming community without being heckled or told that a viewpoint is correct in a single sentence? But, when it comes to publishing stories, maybe some more journalistic integrity is needed. It isn't easy to write objectively, but when you don't write and act objectively, it garners disrespect. Look at what this game is doing to the companies making it, the people reacting to it, and those reporting on it. The issue is not really the game it all, it is that we lack the ability to consider that there isn't necessarily a correct right vs wrong way of looking at things. You, me, anyone can justify their thoughts as much or as little as they want, but when you aren't willing to even think from another person's perspective, than how well do you know people at all?
... sorry, I'm ranty today.
I know little of British politics (or U.S. politics for that matter) so how bad is this Keith Vaz guy? We talking your average dickhead politician running around moaning about video games or that Jack Thompson style "WE NEED TO BAN ALL THE VIDEO GAMES" running around in courts trying to do impossible things wasting everyone's time and money.
...Or worse?
...Or worse?
If you cover a touchy subject, then you have to accept the backlash that comes with it. I don't see the problem.
ManHunt 2 was dis-tasteful in every extreme, and a crap game to boot. I think it was fairly flogged as violence for the sake of violence.
If Infinity Ward are going to include a scene as a terrorist in an airport, the they have to take the flak with that. If they didn't want the backlash, don't include the scene in the game. Simple as that.
ManHunt 2 was dis-tasteful in every extreme, and a crap game to boot. I think it was fairly flogged as violence for the sake of violence.
If Infinity Ward are going to include a scene as a terrorist in an airport, the they have to take the flak with that. If they didn't want the backlash, don't include the scene in the game. Simple as that.
Usually I'd be laughing at the Daily Mail here, but they do have an argument. The MW2 scene is a watershed in terms of what's acceptable in games, and it is quite different from out and out violence or gunplay. I certainly disagree with their argument, but they actually have a defensible point this time round.
thank god society revolves around money and not empty words, md2 will goon to sell millions controversy or not
Wait, are we going to ignore that some of this outrage was started by Destructoid? There was one of the first articles written hear to decry how the scene which the writer did not play had affected him ... pretty much the same thing Destructoid is now accusing Vaz of doing? There was no bait, as the outrage displayed here was not some measure to draw out the news media, but a story meant to capitalize on the drama as well. The video game media is the one to blame this time if any such bannings or further drama appear over this game, they started the hoopla, and would be the reason people like Vaz even heard of it to make an issue of it.
Just to make something clear, Destructoid did not plan a 2 part pro and con article segment on the issue, one writer wrote a con, agreeing with the drama children over something he never played, much like Vaz, and later another writer decided to write a counter piece. It was never mentioned or expected to be treated as a two part. Maybe if we weren't so dramatic, maybe Vaz would have never heard of the issue in the first place.
Just to make something clear, Destructoid did not plan a 2 part pro and con article segment on the issue, one writer wrote a con, agreeing with the drama children over something he never played, much like Vaz, and later another writer decided to write a counter piece. It was never mentioned or expected to be treated as a two part. Maybe if we weren't so dramatic, maybe Vaz would have never heard of the issue in the first place.
haha i think this is stupid how the tabloids always make a big deal out of the smallest detail yea the game is going to be graphic and violent but its a game i wouldnt expect more and another thing on top of that its not even bassed for kids its for adults i personaly can not see any problem about this game. all this panic is caused by a group of worried mothers well if your soo concered DONT BUY IT FOR YOUR KIDS!!!!
Yayyy, I've been waiting for the fail to pick up on this for agessss :) when did they do it? I went and picked it up a few minuets ago and thier was nothing, waste of money haha
Ahahaha I just read the article and it has images from its predecessor in it to illustrate the "gory nature of MW2".
Fucking hilarious JOURNALISM.
Fucking hilarious JOURNALISM.
I guess no one else noticed that they brand Activision as the creator of the game twice, when they are merely the publishers. They should really get their facts straight before saying "Activision" included checkpoints in the game.
This "outrage" is all a part of what is the best video game launch strategy ever
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