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I was looking forward to it until I heard that they nerfed the hell out of the PC release (adding DX 10 and 11 -after- release.. wow guys.. way to fuck up), and that the game was far more linear than the original.
Basically, they took away the two interesting things from the original. I've seen C2 on sale for 5 dollar (maybe even less) several times, and I still haven't picked it up, despite beating the original twice and the expansion once. I just can't give a damn about this game for some reason.
Basically, they took away the two interesting things from the original. I've seen C2 on sale for 5 dollar (maybe even less) several times, and I still haven't picked it up, despite beating the original twice and the expansion once. I just can't give a damn about this game for some reason.
I hope they fight boredom by providing an engaging game. No wait, it's a game company. That's not their main goal. Silly me.
Piracy is bad. Great, now that that's out of the way, stop whining.
Successful games get pirated. Period. You're not the only one being pirated. Not by a long shot. And if you want to fight it, just don't take a dump all over the people who DO buy it. Fail to treat your customer right and I will have zero sympathy for your sales that follow.
Successful games get pirated. Period. You're not the only one being pirated. Not by a long shot. And if you want to fight it, just don't take a dump all over the people who DO buy it. Fail to treat your customer right and I will have zero sympathy for your sales that follow.
>implying any of those "copies" would have been a sale
I don't participate in piracy but this mentality is retarded.
I don't participate in piracy but this mentality is retarded.
I bought crysis 1,2,and warhead. I will pay for this too. It would be cool for it to do what was done in serious sam with the pink scorpion
Yeah "combat" piracy, not stop it. I'm convinced that piracy can't be stopped, the more security and measures your taking to lock up and protect your game, the more motivation hacker groups like Skidrow and Razor have to crack your game open. It's just a silly game to them, and the real consumers are suffering because of it.
I was waiting for it to go on sale on Steam but then it became Origin exclusive. I have enough of a backlog to not really give a shit but I can imagine that would have added to the pirated numbers somewhat.
They spent millions of dollars and a few years making a game and they aren't too happy about the millions that stole it? What a bunch of cunts.
@Drakengard - I take it your comment was just a general internet soundbite posted here? Because I literally can't think of a way in which Crytek were taking 'dumps' all over everybody...
I know a few PC gamers felt they had the right to steal the game because of DX11(whatever the fuck that is) or that they were owed a game that would have been impossible on consoles, or something like that... I gave up trying to figure out exactly what the fuck it is that will make gamers happy a long time ago, and I don't envy the people that try and do it for money. Because when we aren't happy we feel it encumbent upon us to rob the shit out of a hard-working team, apparently.
@Drakengard - I take it your comment was just a general internet soundbite posted here? Because I literally can't think of a way in which Crytek were taking 'dumps' all over everybody...
I know a few PC gamers felt they had the right to steal the game because of DX11(whatever the fuck that is) or that they were owed a game that would have been impossible on consoles, or something like that... I gave up trying to figure out exactly what the fuck it is that will make gamers happy a long time ago, and I don't envy the people that try and do it for money. Because when we aren't happy we feel it encumbent upon us to rob the shit out of a hard-working team, apparently.
It's funny because their anti-piracy measures are what's keeping me from buying any crysis game. I enjoyed the crysis demo but until they remove the securom shit they wont see a dime from me. Sucks too because I want to play MW living legends.
@tristy
I think we should just get out of here before shit gets real. You know someone is going to sucker one of us into "that argument." You know the one I'm talking about.
Just walk away. Just walk away and we'll give you safe passage in the wastelands. Just walk away and there will be an end to the horror.
I think we should just get out of here before shit gets real. You know someone is going to sucker one of us into "that argument." You know the one I'm talking about.
Just walk away. Just walk away and we'll give you safe passage in the wastelands. Just walk away and there will be an end to the horror.
The only way i would play crysis 3 is on the PC.Unfortunately any way i do that comes out as my support for Origon which i already feel sick enough about through my purchase of ME 3.Considering how badly EA fucked over ME 3,dragon age 2 and crysis 2 too some extent i find it hard giving a squirt of piss about crysis 3.
It was a pretty good and very pretty FPS, even when you consider it didn't initially have DX10 support. Whilst I dread when a developer/publisher says they're going to combat piracy with some new, inventive and ultimately flawed technique, it's hard to be surprised when you're ranked first on Piratebay. If they could put in some extra feature for new/non-pirating customers (I'm reminded of Prototype 2's optional Radnet) and marketed the product and it's demo better, this might sway those who simply pirate to see if it runs.
1. Not everyone downloaded the game to play it. To some people, Crysis games are essentially a tech demo for their hardcore master race machines.
2. Not everyone would have bought it if they doubted they could run it. In fact, many people who tested their system with the pirated copy, probably went on to buy it (the demo was MP, which doesn't always tell you how well SP will perform or let you fool around with settings the way you want).
3. Due to some design choices, a lot of people were disinterested in the game before it even released. Some probably assumed it would be bad, pirated it to try it out, realized it was bad, and didn't buy it.
4. EA took it off of Steam. I imagine they could have racked up a lot more sales from Steam purists. But no. They cut themselves off from a considerable chunk of PC gaming consumers. And of course, the petty ones got pissed and pirated the damn thing.
5. That general consensus you speak of: a lot of gamers thought the game was bad, told everyone else the game was bad. Not only did this encourage more try-before-you-buy torrent downloads, it likely also convinced many to simply skip the game.
I hate that their game didn't perform as well as they wanted it to, and I agree that the high piracy rate makes it look like piracy is to blame. But you have to ask yourself who is to blame for the piracy. It's not always because a bunch of assholes want to play your game without paying for it. Often times, it's for reasons you yourself could have prevented.
2. Not everyone would have bought it if they doubted they could run it. In fact, many people who tested their system with the pirated copy, probably went on to buy it (the demo was MP, which doesn't always tell you how well SP will perform or let you fool around with settings the way you want).
3. Due to some design choices, a lot of people were disinterested in the game before it even released. Some probably assumed it would be bad, pirated it to try it out, realized it was bad, and didn't buy it.
4. EA took it off of Steam. I imagine they could have racked up a lot more sales from Steam purists. But no. They cut themselves off from a considerable chunk of PC gaming consumers. And of course, the petty ones got pissed and pirated the damn thing.
5. That general consensus you speak of: a lot of gamers thought the game was bad, told everyone else the game was bad. Not only did this encourage more try-before-you-buy torrent downloads, it likely also convinced many to simply skip the game.
I hate that their game didn't perform as well as they wanted it to, and I agree that the high piracy rate makes it look like piracy is to blame. But you have to ask yourself who is to blame for the piracy. It's not always because a bunch of assholes want to play your game without paying for it. Often times, it's for reasons you yourself could have prevented.
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Saying they didn't give enough incentive to not pirate it is just saying they dressed slutty in a back alley, what did they expect? Who's to blame for piracy? Oh yeah, pirates.
And I realize that someone will likely take that post as I support piracy, but I don't. I support smart development and marketing choices, and these guys were missing a few, which I feel is a big part of why this guy has anything to complain about. I also support accountability, but this guy doesn't seem to care for it much at all.
"Who's to blame for piracy? Oh yeah, pirates."
Crytek is a video game business. It's their job to make money, regardless of pirates. Complaining about pirates is like a shrimper complaining about sea storms, or firemen complaining about fires. It comes with the territory. If this company can't handle it and make money, there are plenty of companies that can.
Crytek is a video game business. It's their job to make money, regardless of pirates. Complaining about pirates is like a shrimper complaining about sea storms, or firemen complaining about fires. It comes with the territory. If this company can't handle it and make money, there are plenty of companies that can.
How to combat piracy:
1. make a great game
2. incentivize people who buy it (free dlc)
3. don't limit the game to a distribution service that often REQUIRES customers to pirate due to it's technical and customer service issues.
TLDR: mimic Valve
1. make a great game
2. incentivize people who buy it (free dlc)
3. don't limit the game to a distribution service that often REQUIRES customers to pirate due to it's technical and customer service issues.
TLDR: mimic Valve
It's confirmed, the new enemies won't be terrorist or aliens but pirates! I like pirates in games so I will definitely check out this game.
/lolz
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That is unfortunate as crisis 2 is an extremely fluid and fun game. I had a lot of fun with it and people crying it didn't support certain tech right out the gate like dx10 are missing the point of gaming
@Taterchimp
Good analogy. Let's follow that through, shall we? Piracy, like rape, can happen whether you like it or not. You know it's a possibility. You know that there is little hope of you stopping it if it happens. The only thing you can do is make smart choices that allow you to avoid it. It's not a girl's fault she was raped if she dressed slutty. Hell no. However, if she was dressed slutty, hanging out with a bunch of drunk dudes she doesn't know, or walking through a dark alley at two in the morning by herself, or passed out in a bedroom at a frat party after getting totally wasted, she definitely made some shitty choices that she should question from here on out. A world where a girl can dress like a slut anytime, anywhere, in any situation with no worry of rape, is a world where rape doesn't exist. This is not that world. So yeah, if you make stupid choices and something bad happens to you, you should hold yourself accountable for those choices and avoid making them in the future. Piracy exists and it will not go away anytime soon. I'm not justifying it. I'm only saying you're a fucking moron if you don't take all the right steps to avoid it. And in Crytek's case with Crysis 2, they played right into it. They were the drunk girl passed out in the frat house. Damn dummies.
Good analogy. Let's follow that through, shall we? Piracy, like rape, can happen whether you like it or not. You know it's a possibility. You know that there is little hope of you stopping it if it happens. The only thing you can do is make smart choices that allow you to avoid it. It's not a girl's fault she was raped if she dressed slutty. Hell no. However, if she was dressed slutty, hanging out with a bunch of drunk dudes she doesn't know, or walking through a dark alley at two in the morning by herself, or passed out in a bedroom at a frat party after getting totally wasted, she definitely made some shitty choices that she should question from here on out. A world where a girl can dress like a slut anytime, anywhere, in any situation with no worry of rape, is a world where rape doesn't exist. This is not that world. So yeah, if you make stupid choices and something bad happens to you, you should hold yourself accountable for those choices and avoid making them in the future. Piracy exists and it will not go away anytime soon. I'm not justifying it. I'm only saying you're a fucking moron if you don't take all the right steps to avoid it. And in Crytek's case with Crysis 2, they played right into it. They were the drunk girl passed out in the frat house. Damn dummies.
@Snorbuckle, but they already sell a ton of pirate games, just look at Sid Miers (Forgot last name)
Also just because your system can run Crysis 2 doesn't make it a 'strong system' but I suppose gaming on a pentium 4 does make one think that.
Also just because your system can run Crysis 2 doesn't make it a 'strong system' but I suppose gaming on a pentium 4 does make one think that.
Let's encourage sales by making the non-pirate version of the game a restrictive mess of DRM hassles that only legitimate customers are going to encounter.
It's genius I tells ya!
GENIUS!
It's genius I tells ya!
GENIUS!
@ tekbunny
i thought that's what he wanted. why else would he come into this thread and complain about something that's not even happening? he craves the attention.
will i take the bait? no sir.
this is kind of a non article anyway. crytek hopes to do something better in their next game? well i didn't think the wanted to do something worse.
i thought that's what he wanted. why else would he come into this thread and complain about something that's not even happening? he craves the attention.
will i take the bait? no sir.
this is kind of a non article anyway. crytek hopes to do something better in their next game? well i didn't think the wanted to do something worse.
Yes, I'm sure the lack of initial DX11 support and Origin exclusivity had nothing to do with piracy rate. I'm not saying that mentality is right, but there are consequences to trying to build your own little walled garden, as there will always be barbarians at the gate.
I just wait until a game gets cheap if I'm unsure about it.
In this case I wish I'd waited a little longer. Because $7.49 for this utterly banal piece of linear console garbage was a rip-off.
It's too bad we don't have stats on how many people who pirated the game actually finished it. I'm guessing many regretting wasting so much time and bandwidth on it.
In this case I wish I'd waited a little longer. Because $7.49 for this utterly banal piece of linear console garbage was a rip-off.
It's too bad we don't have stats on how many people who pirated the game actually finished it. I'm guessing many regretting wasting so much time and bandwidth on it.
Ah, the PC piracy debate. The debate where both sides are both right and wrong at the same time. Okay, let's look at this from an economics/business perspective which game developers refuse to do so, so that they may play the victim and cry about something. And it just so happens someone was bitching about used games just a number of days ago!
http://gamepolitics.com/2012/04/25/crytek-thinks-new-consoles-block-used-games-would-be-awesome
The PC market has no secondary market for used games. Most of PC game purchasing is done through Steam. Since most people in the US and the rest of the world don't shit money, they have to make decisions about what to spend their money on and what not to. This is why used games are good thing for video games. It allows a consumer to buy say Assassin's Creed 1 & 2 used for cheap at Gamestop. The consumer having heard that it has a good story, but also heard the gameplay was lacking is offered a cheaper alternative and does so. The consumer likes the games and decides to buy Revelations at full price when it comes out, maybe trading in a few old games to ease the sixty dollar cost. Thus Ubisoft GAINS a new customer and a sale is added to their bottom line.
The PC Market does not have this same luxury that consoles have. Steam, who actually understands the market they are exploiting, offsets this by having awesome sales that allow their customers to pick up some older games for cheap, adding potential day one, full price buys for the developer or game series in the future. This is why Steam is not threatened by piracy.
The best way to reduce piracy is through smart market strategies and business, not pissing and moaning about it in interviews. Believe it or not, most consumers want game companies to keep making AAA games and are willing to support them. However gaming can be an expensive investment. This is why the used market is necessary for consoles, and Steam's sales is necessary for the PC. This is also one of the many reasons why people pirate games. Better pricing and smarter business would do a lot more for their cause than bitching about it.
http://gamepolitics.com/2012/04/25/crytek-thinks-new-consoles-block-used-games-would-be-awesome
The PC market has no secondary market for used games. Most of PC game purchasing is done through Steam. Since most people in the US and the rest of the world don't shit money, they have to make decisions about what to spend their money on and what not to. This is why used games are good thing for video games. It allows a consumer to buy say Assassin's Creed 1 & 2 used for cheap at Gamestop. The consumer having heard that it has a good story, but also heard the gameplay was lacking is offered a cheaper alternative and does so. The consumer likes the games and decides to buy Revelations at full price when it comes out, maybe trading in a few old games to ease the sixty dollar cost. Thus Ubisoft GAINS a new customer and a sale is added to their bottom line.
The PC Market does not have this same luxury that consoles have. Steam, who actually understands the market they are exploiting, offsets this by having awesome sales that allow their customers to pick up some older games for cheap, adding potential day one, full price buys for the developer or game series in the future. This is why Steam is not threatened by piracy.
The best way to reduce piracy is through smart market strategies and business, not pissing and moaning about it in interviews. Believe it or not, most consumers want game companies to keep making AAA games and are willing to support them. However gaming can be an expensive investment. This is why the used market is necessary for consoles, and Steam's sales is necessary for the PC. This is also one of the many reasons why people pirate games. Better pricing and smarter business would do a lot more for their cause than bitching about it.
I thought Crysis 2 was a better experience than the original but the original as a game without its substance was substantially more... open. Crysis 2 was a completely different game with the same name.
One other thing.
Ahem.
On behalf of the internet I hereby apologize to Crytek that no one wanted to buy your shitty game and elected to pirate it instead. We offer our sincerest regrets at our actions and this gift of a box filled with no-one-giving-a-fuck-about-your-next-tech-demo as compensation for whatever it is you have lost. Our bad.
Ahem.
On behalf of the internet I hereby apologize to Crytek that no one wanted to buy your shitty game and elected to pirate it instead. We offer our sincerest regrets at our actions and this gift of a box filled with no-one-giving-a-fuck-about-your-next-tech-demo as compensation for whatever it is you have lost. Our bad.
I rented it and sent it back pretty fast. Just not a very enjoyable game. If you're in a badass power suit, let me feel badass, and not like a regular jackoff.
Whatevs dawg. I bought Crysis 2 and loved it. I'm going to buy Crysis 3, and I fully anticipate digging that too.
Remove the SECROM DRM and put the game on Steam with Steam works cloud saves and they would of sold a few more million.
They should implement something into the game so cracked versions have endless waves of pirates that hunt down the player character.
or
No enemies ever appear in-game. So if you illegally downloaded the game you basically have a nice to walk through forest simulator.
I love those kind of anti-piracy tactics.
or
No enemies ever appear in-game. So if you illegally downloaded the game you basically have a nice to walk through forest simulator.
I love those kind of anti-piracy tactics.
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