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"3D will become the standard" until they find another way rip holes in our wallets.
Also Bah Humbug!
Also Bah Humbug!
One when 3D capable technology is widely available to all consumers at a reasonable price.
IE long feckin time.
IE long feckin time.
it shouldn't become the standard think about the people who have problams with there eyes and stuff you know
Until they can output 3D in 1080p at a decent framerate, then no, it won't.
And not until 3DTV's are within comparable price ranges, and the glasses don't set you back 200+ bucks and require batteries.
And when 3D Blu movies don't cost an extra 10 bucks over the 2D versions.
And when 3D starts becoming integrated and less gimmicky instead of being forced into games that hardly utilize it.
And not until 3DTV's are within comparable price ranges, and the glasses don't set you back 200+ bucks and require batteries.
And when 3D Blu movies don't cost an extra 10 bucks over the 2D versions.
And when 3D starts becoming integrated and less gimmicky instead of being forced into games that hardly utilize it.
still dont really want it. something that plays on my mind is this:
A lot of us gamers are older these days. We have girlfriends/wives/families etc.. We also use the main living room television. 3D gaming means that ANYBODY who is sat in the room needs to wear glasses to appreciate it, or even stop it from being a grey, blurry mess. My girlfriend will not want to sit reading her magazines with the glasses on just so that she can glance up at the television every-so-often when i say:
"baby, look quick... QUICK! CHECK THIS OUT!!!... too late" :\
My point is that its not easy to get a good gaming session in on the household TV and this is going to make it even harder as it alienates the non-players in the room.
A lot of us gamers are older these days. We have girlfriends/wives/families etc.. We also use the main living room television. 3D gaming means that ANYBODY who is sat in the room needs to wear glasses to appreciate it, or even stop it from being a grey, blurry mess. My girlfriend will not want to sit reading her magazines with the glasses on just so that she can glance up at the television every-so-often when i say:
"baby, look quick... QUICK! CHECK THIS OUT!!!... too late" :\
My point is that its not easy to get a good gaming session in on the household TV and this is going to make it even harder as it alienates the non-players in the room.
I don't believe interest in 3D television is low at all. I can't tell you how many people have asked about it, or brought it up for discussion. Interest in buying one in the next year? That's very low, which it always is for new technology. Early adopters are rare, and with good reason.
It probably will become standard, eventually, several years from now, with much improved technology, just as HD televisions are now standard. Why you are upset by this, I do not know.
It probably will become standard, eventually, several years from now, with much improved technology, just as HD televisions are now standard. Why you are upset by this, I do not know.
That's fine if other people like it, but i cant stand 3d. It's irritating and tiring on my eyes for any extended period of time, and i honestly think it adds little to any movie i've seen. I cannot see myself donning glasses in my home to play games or watch movies and now that awesome 2d hdtv sets have started dropping to reasonable prices I really think the price premium on 3d sets and accessories that we're expected to pay seems like madness for the privilege.
Personally I don't think it will catch on until the glasses aren't needed... and even then, I think it may be problematic for some people.
No, it won't. Not until you can watch a 3D TV without glasses. People with glasses freaking hate the idea of wearing a SECOND set, and the fact that the screen looks like crap without it means that people walking by think it's crap.
Not to mention it'll kill the concept of people enjoying something in the same damned room if the glasses stick around - "Hey Bobby, gonna have us guys over to play (Game X) this weekend?" "I'd love to Steve, but I've only got two extra sets, and you're the odd man out. Maybe you can come over next weekend and we'll leave Bill out?"
Not to mention it'll kill the concept of people enjoying something in the same damned room if the glasses stick around - "Hey Bobby, gonna have us guys over to play (Game X) this weekend?" "I'd love to Steve, but I've only got two extra sets, and you're the odd man out. Maybe you can come over next weekend and we'll leave Bill out?"
Hey great another we hate 3D bitch session. I'm gonna copy and paste my comment from yesterdays article by the lovely Collette Bennett about the possibility of a 3D Pixil Junk Monsters and see what answers I get here.
I still don't understand all the pissing and moaning over 3D. What the hell is the problem??
At first I thought it was just another thing for Sony haters to jump on, but there are 3D games on the way for the 360 so that can't account for all of it.
So far the games that are playable in 3D only have it as an option and it's not like you can't play the game without a 3D tv so it can't be that.
A lot of people bitch as if a 3D tv will cost them as much as a loaded BMW, but in actuality the price tag isn't that big a leap over an HD tv. I guess we can chalk that one up to people being misinformed?
It doesn't look like we have anything to worry about in the graphics dept. I've only had a chance to see MLB The Show in HD myself but it looks great. And as long as GT5 looks just half as good in 3D as it does running normally then there's nothing to worry about there.
Apparently there is a possibility that viewing 3D for some people will cause their eyes to cross, their brains to melt, and they'll collapse to the floor writhing in agony, but that's been a pretty standard warning since the earliest days of gaming. If you happen to be one of those people who are at risk you still be able to play the game in the standard view.
Even if you do just think 3D is a passing fad it's just an option, and it doesn't look like it going to cost you anything more to have it even if you don't want it. Someone explain to me where the downside is.
I still don't understand all the pissing and moaning over 3D. What the hell is the problem??
At first I thought it was just another thing for Sony haters to jump on, but there are 3D games on the way for the 360 so that can't account for all of it.
So far the games that are playable in 3D only have it as an option and it's not like you can't play the game without a 3D tv so it can't be that.
A lot of people bitch as if a 3D tv will cost them as much as a loaded BMW, but in actuality the price tag isn't that big a leap over an HD tv. I guess we can chalk that one up to people being misinformed?
It doesn't look like we have anything to worry about in the graphics dept. I've only had a chance to see MLB The Show in HD myself but it looks great. And as long as GT5 looks just half as good in 3D as it does running normally then there's nothing to worry about there.
Apparently there is a possibility that viewing 3D for some people will cause their eyes to cross, their brains to melt, and they'll collapse to the floor writhing in agony, but that's been a pretty standard warning since the earliest days of gaming. If you happen to be one of those people who are at risk you still be able to play the game in the standard view.
Even if you do just think 3D is a passing fad it's just an option, and it doesn't look like it going to cost you anything more to have it even if you don't want it. Someone explain to me where the downside is.
I didn't care about 3d until Shigeru Miyamoto pointed out that it gives the player depth perception, and would be useful in platformers and such. With that in mind, I can't wait to play Starfox 64 3ds because you would be able to tell how far away a shot is when it is coming straight at the camera.
I'm all for 3D. It's the next obvious step. I'm unsure if the screen is the best way, but something in 3D is definitely the way forward.
3D won't take off for the simple reason that it is not actually usable by everyone. In this day and age with the console companies broadening their markets as far as possible I can't see them fully supporting a technology that would segregate a portion of their user base resulting in loss of potential sales.
I say this though the 3DS is being released with only 1 analogue nub, Nintendo hate lefties :(
I say this though the 3DS is being released with only 1 analogue nub, Nintendo hate lefties :(
What I find amusing is how people, when talking about the future, think the prices and technology WILL ALWAYS BE THE SAME AS NOW. It's kind of like when people said CDs would never catch on because they were too expensive and you couldn't record on them.
Well, I welcome 3D, but logically it won't really be a commercially viable option for another 5 years or so. (for me, that is).
I've only seen two 3D films at the moment, and found I need a 30 minute 'warm-up' to get my eyes adjusted to it. Can't wait to see it in gaming though.
I've only seen two 3D films at the moment, and found I need a 30 minute 'warm-up' to get my eyes adjusted to it. Can't wait to see it in gaming though.
3D is so fucking pointless to put in movies or games, what is the god damned point? You want to see shit flying at you? Work at a golf course, it'll blow your mind if you want things whipping at your face.
It's so boring to boot, oooohh ahhhh, that laser kinda sorta looked like it moved past the TV a bit. Who the fuck cares? Are we all suddenly 5 years old and we've lost touch of common technology sense that this is being embraced at all?
Damnit all to hell. I'm going to go stand in my screen door and bitch at kids.
It's so boring to boot, oooohh ahhhh, that laser kinda sorta looked like it moved past the TV a bit. Who the fuck cares? Are we all suddenly 5 years old and we've lost touch of common technology sense that this is being embraced at all?
Damnit all to hell. I'm going to go stand in my screen door and bitch at kids.
See here is the thing, 3D is like Motion Control .... not every game needs or will benefit in any way from it. In fact games that have it tacked on as a bandwagon afterthought will likely suffer from its addition.
Yes there are games that will be freaking awesome in 3D just like there are games that just don't work without Motion control. However those games are few and far between.
Yes there are games that will be freaking awesome in 3D just like there are games that just don't work without Motion control. However those games are few and far between.
@sprldr - Took over ten years for HDTV to become the standard - scratch that.
It took over ten years before HDTVs started selling.
In terms of broadcasting, it really wasn't the standard til last year. SO i'm curious where you've been.
As far as 3D goes, in my mind Nintendo has set the standard to meet. Glasses-free or GTFO.
It took over ten years before HDTVs started selling.
In terms of broadcasting, it really wasn't the standard til last year. SO i'm curious where you've been.
As far as 3D goes, in my mind Nintendo has set the standard to meet. Glasses-free or GTFO.
It's pretty obvious it's going to become the standard as far as I'm concerned. Maybe not next year and maybe not in 5 years but it's definitely going to happen. Bitching won't stop it either.
Also, once it's the standard all of you are going to be all excited about the 3D remakes of the games you love today. An' imma think to myself "told you so duh" and feel all good about myself. Oh yeah.
Also, once it's the standard all of you are going to be all excited about the 3D remakes of the games you love today. An' imma think to myself "told you so duh" and feel all good about myself. Oh yeah.
@ Tablet
Why not make everything 3D, but have a 2D switch on every television and portable system? Wouldn't that satisfy everyone?
Also, I don't think segregating a section of their potential market will necessarily dissuade companies from supporting 3D. It didn't stop Ubisoft from segregating all PC gamers who don't have 24/7 high-speed internet access.
Why not make everything 3D, but have a 2D switch on every television and portable system? Wouldn't that satisfy everyone?
Also, I don't think segregating a section of their potential market will necessarily dissuade companies from supporting 3D. It didn't stop Ubisoft from segregating all PC gamers who don't have 24/7 high-speed internet access.
3D is, at least in the implementations I've seen, simply an incremental improvement in visuals (i.e. you don't gain or lose any new possibilities of interaction, as opposed to motion controls for example). Its more like the switch to HD. So sure it will catch on. The question is when, not if.
Why does every new feature need to get bashed around here? As long as games offer 3D and don't enforce it (2D still available), I'm happy. And the earliest I'd buy a 3D TV is in a few years. Still happy.
Why does every new feature need to get bashed around here? As long as games offer 3D and don't enforce it (2D still available), I'm happy. And the earliest I'd buy a 3D TV is in a few years. Still happy.
One day a 3D TV will be invented that requires no glasses and can be viewed at any angle, until that day 3D TVs won't go far.
@LittleBigD Personally for me it's not the price of a 3D tv that makes me not want 3D, it's the fact at E3 when they were showcasing 3D games for the playstation 3 (i.e motorstorm: armageddon)the 3D actually hindered the gameplay because you couldn't tell clearly where the walls were due to the 3D, which made it difficult to play the game properly. Now if 3D can be used properly i will be fine with it, however i don't see 3D as anything but something to add on, for 3D to become the way games are played will probably alienate a lot of people who can't see 3D. When Avatar came out in the theaters there was a huge jump in people going to see eye doctors because they couldn't see 3D the current estimate is between 2 and 12 percent of people can't see 3D. If 12 percent of gamers can't see 3D and it becomes the norm that's a big chunk of change that developers will be alienating and losing cash from, based on the fact people believe 69% of the world play video games, your looking at 4 billion people roughly and 400 million of those can't see 3D (roughly, so that would roughly be 29 billion dollars the game companies would alienate in possible cash? does it make sense to make 3D the standard if you could possibly lose that much money?
So is this what video games have been reduced to now gimmicks? What happened to releasing good games. Ow yeah Bobby Kotick came along.
@asojax
You're a prime example of how most everyone has the wrong idea about 3D.
3D might become the standard, but it'll be a long time before a game will be unplayable without a 3D tv. They just mean that developers will start developing their games to optimize 3D instead of tacking it on.
Also have you actually seen a 3D tv in action? There is a pretty big difference between a 3D movie in the theatre, and new 3D tvs. 3D movies you see in the theatre rely on the same tech they've used to create the experience for decades. 3D tvs use current tech to create a far better picture. There's no comparison.
I should also say that I haven't seen Avatar myself, but everyone I know and their pet monkey did. If anyone of them, or anyone they know who saw the movie actually had to see an eye doctor after watching the movie I'll eat my hat.
You're a prime example of how most everyone has the wrong idea about 3D.
3D might become the standard, but it'll be a long time before a game will be unplayable without a 3D tv. They just mean that developers will start developing their games to optimize 3D instead of tacking it on.
Also have you actually seen a 3D tv in action? There is a pretty big difference between a 3D movie in the theatre, and new 3D tvs. 3D movies you see in the theatre rely on the same tech they've used to create the experience for decades. 3D tvs use current tech to create a far better picture. There's no comparison.
I should also say that I haven't seen Avatar myself, but everyone I know and their pet monkey did. If anyone of them, or anyone they know who saw the movie actually had to see an eye doctor after watching the movie I'll eat my hat.
@Matthew Blevins
Now that sounds really innovative. 3D might not be the revolution that the industry would like us to believe, but if they manage to create a split screen experience from splitting the signal.. now THAT would be worthwhile.
Now that sounds really innovative. 3D might not be the revolution that the industry would like us to believe, but if they manage to create a split screen experience from splitting the signal.. now THAT would be worthwhile.
Dammit Cryteck shut up with this bs. I dont want to hear any more proclamations from you until you let Crytek UK finish Timesplitters 4...
"It just strikes me as rather childish to see game developers rush all over it and declare it the inevitable future just because 3D gaming is a "new" concept". Thank you Jim, now I know I'm not alone.
as long as it's not mandatory, an optional choice ( just like anti-alias,SSAO, or even HDR ), i'm good with that. :)
Since I can't even view 3D anyways--I clearly don't need to plunk down a few more hundred dollars on newjunk that works about as well as my current stuff...
They should concentrate on games with 8X anti-aliasing, 60 fps, and no screen-tearing instead of 3D.
Honestly, the only place I can really see 3D working well is handhelds (see: 3DS).
With TVs, you get a choice of stupid glasses that waste MORE of your money, or no glasses but a fairly precise "sweet spot" that you can't really move out of... With 3D handheld(s- someday there'll be something besides 3DS I bet you), you can move it until you're right in the sweet spot and constantly adjust. Unlike with a big ass TV...
IMO handheld gaming is the only kind that 3D will truly become standard for.
With TVs, you get a choice of stupid glasses that waste MORE of your money, or no glasses but a fairly precise "sweet spot" that you can't really move out of... With 3D handheld(s- someday there'll be something besides 3DS I bet you), you can move it until you're right in the sweet spot and constantly adjust. Unlike with a big ass TV...
IMO handheld gaming is the only kind that 3D will truly become standard for.
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