Simple answer - fuck MicroSHAFT unleash it on PS3!

Free online, mature user base, Blu-ray, universal HDD - the PS3 is the PERFECT MMO machine!

Some HDD's, some without, Payed online, greedy provider, mainly 12-16 year old userbase (griefers) - So uh yeah, the 360 is obviously the best place to put MMO's - fuck off.

Microsoft with an MMO that uses an already priced online subscription service not getting its cut of the pie??? This is purely a delay to figure out what profit percentage they want.

@sexualchocolate

You consider yourself to be apart of the mature PS3 userbase?

True Fantasy Live Online will always have a place in my heart. :(

We too are baffled. However it is probably the stance that Microsoft has on updates and patches that is the culprit.

This makes me sad because many of my Final Fantasy 11 friends play on the 360 due to their PC being out-dated and they prefer to use the game console they have to play it. So this blow balls because when I get into FF14 I want them to play with me no matter what system.

This is the reason why Square-Enix gave the "go" on the PS3, because they don't have any issues with PSN. Microsoft should give silver account access to all MMO games because people are already paying a monthly subscription to the MMO game.

Its simple. MMOs cost too much money and time. They also lack the structure of a normal games. Add the huge amount of games 360 receives into its catalogue everyweek, and the people that buy them, and you'll understand why MMOs would cut into such gaming.

On PC, there's less competition from other games, larger hard drive space.

I'd be surprised if anyone that plays MMOs, plays more than a select three of them (some of which will be free to play). Anymore than this, and those gamers may be compromising work, life and everything else.

Its also about the type of universe devs are trying to sell. If something like CrimeCraft or APB comes on 360, then I'm more likely to buy and play. Champions Online I can't say I will, be cause I hate generic superheroes/villains, and it doesn't appeal to me.

So if an MMO is
1: Free to play

2: Has a unique universe and gameplay, that appeals and is more than just more boring fantasy guff.

3: Works around the players time, not the other way around.

If an MMO can meet these requirements on console, then I'd check one or two out.

I don't understand... Didnt' they work all of this logistical shit out with FFXI? You only needed a Silver membership to play it, and Square-Enix takes the monthly membership. Or does MS only care about this latest one because it would have a larger user base?

I actually can't believe there isn't a Monster Hunter MMO anywhere.

I would actually get into the series if that were true.

@Sexualchocolate You know the PS3 user base isn't much better. It's filled with stupid arrogant geeks that get angry over the most stupidest thing.
True, not every user is like that, but the same can be said about the 360.

@ShadowWiii

So what you want is an edited community that only consists of post of which you approve?

Sure, it's ridiculous that some people feel they need to chime in and dis MS/praise Sony at every chance they get (or the other way around), but it's not like they're legitimately ruining anything.


And on topic, my question is, why does MS need to get a slice of the MMO subscription pie when they already get the fee for Live itself?

Doesn't make much sense to me since Sony seems to be more accepting even without an online fee.

I hope MS doesn't gouge the MMO companies TOO much. It's hard enough to make it in the MMO business as it is.

Wonder if it has something to do with the need for dedicated servers. You obviously can't run an mmo over p2p.

no WASD


what is so baffling?

1. Servers. They would need to be run by and maintained by Microsoft. That would also mean they would get that cut of the monthly fee and would cause issues communication between them and the Devs, the result would probably be longer down time. This might solve the cost issue if its say 15$ a month and Microsoft gets X% that would go to server maintainence normally. Server techs are a separate team from Devs to begin with so this might not be a big problem, but I highly doubt you can find a game company willing to split their profits.

Another side to this is if the servers are Microsoft run then there wont be cross PC/Console play. Microsoft would need to develope their own MMO specifically for consoles, which might not be a bad idea.

2. Hard drive space. Many people still have 20gb HDs, and if you have played any MMOs recently you can see where the problem is there (keeping in mind you dont actually get anywhere near the 20gb to use). With constant patching/content updates that comes with any MMO this can cause problems. It might work for something like say... Guild Wars. Especially with that games control structure (limit to 8 abilities). But whose going to play an older MMO thats probably got a relatively dead community?

3. Controls. There are very few MMOs that dont require you to use 20+ keybinds, and that dinky little keyboard attachment wont cut it. Add to that the sheer amount of menus you have to use and youve got a very clunky control scheme. They would have to completely remake the interface and tailor it for a console, and we all know how lazy devs are. Im not saying you cant get an MMO to port to consoles but I wouldnt expect any existing games to be ported, I hope upcoming MMO games take this into consideration early on in the development.

Theres also the lack of chat. I mean, voice chat is great and all but do you really want regular chat voiced? Think Trade and Barrens chat, do you want 20-50+ 13 year olds screaming in the same channel?

The loading times would be ridiculous if they did that. Doesn't GW only download the area the first time you go there, and then it stays on your HDD?

@Yehat: why should there be a discount? Microsoft's live service doesnt even cover the price of servers that aren't completely unrelated to them. What you're asking for is like going to a cable company, getting their cable service, then going to the phone company and demanding cheaper DSL

I certainly don't regret the lack of MMO games on Xbox Live, but that's just me and my lack of interest in MMO games in general.

(Hey, if The Reborn and Sexualchocolate can come into these threads and spout the same tired stuff, so can I!)