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I want the 3DS to succeed because I bought one but wouldn't it be sort of ironic if Nintendo's two 3d consoles were it's two failures. I'd bet they would stay away from 3d for a little while.
This is really disappointing. This, Sonic Generations, Cave Story delayed. Mega Man canceled. Fuck 3DS, I'm getting a Vita first.
The 3DS isn't doing good because Nintendo hasn't announced a new 3D Pokemon game. Once they do that, it'll sell like hot cakes covered in crack babies. MMMMMM, crack babies.
I'm getting sick of these developers holding back because a new system isn't selling well. Make games and gamers will come.
I wonder if the same thing will happen with the PS Vita and every new system in the future if they don't sell a bajillion units in the first few months.
I wonder if the same thing will happen with the PS Vita and every new system in the future if they don't sell a bajillion units in the first few months.
You can't blame a small developer for waiting to pick the best moment to release. Unlike bigger games, which can actually sell systems, smaller games need the exposure that comes with a larger installed base. Let some major title do the heavy lifting first. Nintendo needs to get this thing kick-started on their own. Pokemon, Mario, whatever they've got. That's really all it would take.
I think Sony, on the other hand, is doing the right thing with Vita by featuring a top level first-party IP like Uncharted as a launch title.
Honestly, I thought OoT had secured some solid momentum for the 3DS, but last week saw it dip back below the PSP--that's like 35k units under the DS.
I think Sony, on the other hand, is doing the right thing with Vita by featuring a top level first-party IP like Uncharted as a launch title.
Honestly, I thought OoT had secured some solid momentum for the 3DS, but last week saw it dip back below the PSP--that's like 35k units under the DS.
Get back to me when they delay or cancel Super Mario Kart 3DS or Kid Icarus: Uprising because we know for damn sure that ain't happening.
as long as the 3ds has FF,dq, pokemon, mario, kid icarus lined up for the holidays (like they do)they will be fine
No games on console = no sales = even less games on console = even less sales =... wooaaahh.
Just like GoofierBrute said... It does seems like Pokémon is the great ruler of handheld, with Black&White that could be responsible of the great sales of the DS right now. Nintendo better get a 3DS Pokémon game coming up quick... and if this doesn't work, this is totally the end of everything. Because, boy, I have no hope in the WiiU right now. Add the NoA/Operation Rainfall situation on the top of that and my vision of Nintendo's future isn't great. Fanboys are sad and feel cheated, casuals aren't loyals to them or anything at all (isn't the Nintendo Wii some Apple product, they say), 12 years old aren't playing their Call of Duty on Nintendo. Man!
Just like GoofierBrute said... It does seems like Pokémon is the great ruler of handheld, with Black&White that could be responsible of the great sales of the DS right now. Nintendo better get a 3DS Pokémon game coming up quick... and if this doesn't work, this is totally the end of everything. Because, boy, I have no hope in the WiiU right now. Add the NoA/Operation Rainfall situation on the top of that and my vision of Nintendo's future isn't great. Fanboys are sad and feel cheated, casuals aren't loyals to them or anything at all (isn't the Nintendo Wii some Apple product, they say), 12 years old aren't playing their Call of Duty on Nintendo. Man!
@stealth. Man I hope your right but I doubt it. Only reason I played my 3ds was for Zelda. I know Mario should be out soon. Haven't heard anything about the others. Including kid Icarus. I bet they will be out by the holidays. In 2012.
@sat
way to over react, blow everything out of proportion, and be the fanboy you describe
all in 1 huge paragraph
no offense
way to over react, blow everything out of proportion, and be the fanboy you describe
all in 1 huge paragraph
no offense
@Sat: Pretty much. Though I'd say the Wii U has a very positive buzz coming from the media. I don't get the "amagad, it's doomed, stock crash!" I found it kind of "meh"(though I'm not sure what I was expecting, to be honest), but I'm buying it and I'm quite baffled that the media in general liked the thing.
The 3DS, however, I can see totally picking up tremendous steam down the line. It released in the shittiest of timeframes for consoles. A gaming cnsole is a big investment for most people and the holidays are when most are inclined to make this sort of economical commitment towards hardware. I also fail to see the whole "Oh boy, look at VIta, 3DS is doomed".
People forget that Nintendo software sells. The quality is there, whether you see it or not, and even if you don't grant me that, you have to recognize the appeal. Get Mario, Mario Kart and Pokémon in it and sales will skyrocket. Specially if you take into account that there will be a reasonably solid library backing those titles up, like Zelda, Kid ICarus, Star Fox and Metal Gear.
The 3DS, however, I can see totally picking up tremendous steam down the line. It released in the shittiest of timeframes for consoles. A gaming cnsole is a big investment for most people and the holidays are when most are inclined to make this sort of economical commitment towards hardware. I also fail to see the whole "Oh boy, look at VIta, 3DS is doomed".
People forget that Nintendo software sells. The quality is there, whether you see it or not, and even if you don't grant me that, you have to recognize the appeal. Get Mario, Mario Kart and Pokémon in it and sales will skyrocket. Specially if you take into account that there will be a reasonably solid library backing those titles up, like Zelda, Kid ICarus, Star Fox and Metal Gear.
The ds was in worse shape gamewise early on. With a worse sales position.
Nothing matters at 4 months.
Nothing matters at 4 months.
@Stealth I know I over react :D One day I'll be one of those old men yelling out that the apocalypse is coming soon.
Yet I can't see a bright future for Nintendo right now, I can't see the casuals getting the WiiU as much as they did with the Wii, and I'm afraid of what the upcoming Sony/Microsoft consoles might do to the "bringing back the hardcore" plans that seems to rely on ports of 360 and PS3 titles (already useless to me, and useless to a lot of people if the WiiU isn't cheaper than a 360/PS3, unless getting Mario and Zelda with that is enough). If they do get 3rd party developers making game for the console... well that's another thing.
I'll probably look like a fool once the consoles get their games and make the consoles sells rapidly.
Yet I can't see a bright future for Nintendo right now, I can't see the casuals getting the WiiU as much as they did with the Wii, and I'm afraid of what the upcoming Sony/Microsoft consoles might do to the "bringing back the hardcore" plans that seems to rely on ports of 360 and PS3 titles (already useless to me, and useless to a lot of people if the WiiU isn't cheaper than a 360/PS3, unless getting Mario and Zelda with that is enough). If they do get 3rd party developers making game for the console... well that's another thing.
I'll probably look like a fool once the consoles get their games and make the consoles sells rapidly.
the wii u is another issue all together
aLL i know is the fate of a system isnt decided within the first 3 years
aLL i know is the fate of a system isnt decided within the first 3 years
@GoofierBrute it's sad but true. And it's really a shame that they're delaying this because I would've put down full price for this game, I'd really like to expand my library beyond 2 games.
Game publishers need to start taking their goddamn ritalin. I think its absurd to think that any console is going to sell gangbusters before it has a decent library. Publishers can do two things about that, help improve the library so your next game will have a larger market, or STFU and be patient. At least wait until after the holiday season before nailing the 3ds into its coffin.
Thankfully Sega is just pushing the game back and not cancaling the game out right (looking at you Capcom).
Thankfully Sega is just pushing the game back and not cancaling the game out right (looking at you Capcom).
Makes sense, in all honesty I wouldn't buy the game unless it was budget priced or was on sale. Not that it looked bad, but I like the art direction of the PSP version better, and I feel the 3D in this game would get annoying because you're constantly shifting perspective. I think this game would get more attention if it was a 3DSWare game because it would be a big fish in a little pond.
I hope no other developers start shying away from the console. Oh god, what if Heroes of Ruin was cancelled? I would be so sad!This, however is understandable. It's a small developer who could make much more money when everyone has a 3DS.
Once Nintendo releases the first 3DS Pokemon, and 90% of the world's population has a 3DS, things will go uphill.
Once Nintendo releases the first 3DS Pokemon, and 90% of the world's population has a 3DS, things will go uphill.
Wait, a game that uses a 3 in its title but not as an "E"? I read the title as "CRUSH3D" not Crush 3D. Damn you, video game/movie industry!!!!
If a special edition bundle 3ds and* big title game* get put together. ... sales may shoot up, look at the pokemon dsi bundle. .. as soon as I saw that I traded my ds lite for that bad boy
A stronger launch lineup absolutely would have helped sales IMO, but let's wait and see what the holiday brings. I'm one of many that are probably waiting to see what limited edition bundles they may come up with - or a snazzy new color. :P
Y'know, there are enough first party games in the pipeline that this shouldn't be too worrisome, but this attitude is kind of frustrating and concerning. 'Man, this system isn't doing so hot because there aren't a lot of games on it. Maybe we should NOT release this game we're developing for it...' doesn't make a lot of sense. The economy is not in a place where people are going to buy systems on the promise of good games sometime in the future. They're going to buy a system when a game they absolutely must have (or alternately a bunch of games that all look pretty interesting) make it a worthwhile purchase. That means people have to actually, you know, release games for that to work. I understand being worried sinking money into a project destined to fail, but if you don't take risks on a new system, you pretty well doom it to fail.
I really want the Vita to squeeze Nintendo hard. Maybe when the fire is under them for a change they'll get their asses in gear and we'll see the return of Nintendo circa 1990.
I really want the Vita to squeeze Nintendo hard. Maybe when the fire is under them for a change they'll get their asses in gear and we'll see the return of Nintendo circa 1990.
If Pokémon Grey or the Hoenn remakes finally ditches the DS for the 3DS, I can guarantee that 3DS sales will mother fuck!ng skyrocket!! Yet again, there are people from Serebii.net who doesn't want a 3DS just to play the next Pokémon game. Well, I already have a 3DS and if Star Fox and Mario Kart 3D don't get delayed till next year, 3DS sales will increase. Not skyrocket like Pokémon would do, just increase.
Yeah, wait until there are more games that people will buy instead, great job Sega. This does look pretty good though.
I like my 3DS, but seriously nintendo, let's get some fucking support here. I don't care what you're sitting on for Holiday 2011. Fucking launch it already.
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@Dv8thwonder
18 months doesnt matter either
The ds was dead as a doornail sales wise until 2 years later
18 months doesnt matter either
The ds was dead as a doornail sales wise until 2 years later
I want 3DS to succeed, but at the same time I don't think it's much to ask for there to be titles there for me to actually buy. Why the hell isn't Kid Icarus out yet? Just as importantly, why hasn't Star Fox 64 (an enhanced port) not been released? This is what hapens when you release a handheld/console too early with little to no games. As it is I'm going to wait either for a good games library to come out or the thing, a price drop or a hardware revision (here's a hint Nintendo, a second circle pad wouldn't kill you).
It's like nobody remembers owing a 3DS in 2005 and how the situation pretty much exactly mirrors this one.
Sales were slow, and everyone thought it would crumble under the might of the fast approaching, more technically advanced Sony handheld.
Many promising titles were cancelled (Hello Black and White: Creatures for the DS)
And our only big title was a remastered port of a highly successful N64 title, and Nintendogs.
I know a lot of people are convinced that this generation will be downfall for Nintendo, but history has a habit of repeating itself.
And seriously, if a mediocre Assasin's Creed or port of a Saints Row XBLA game had sold you on the system, you need a headcheck. Megaman Legends 3 is the only tragedy here, and it's useless to pretend any different.
Call me when Kingdom Hearts/Metal Gear/Resident Evil gets cancelled.
Sales were slow, and everyone thought it would crumble under the might of the fast approaching, more technically advanced Sony handheld.
Many promising titles were cancelled (Hello Black and White: Creatures for the DS)
And our only big title was a remastered port of a highly successful N64 title, and Nintendogs.
I know a lot of people are convinced that this generation will be downfall for Nintendo, but history has a habit of repeating itself.
And seriously, if a mediocre Assasin's Creed or port of a Saints Row XBLA game had sold you on the system, you need a headcheck. Megaman Legends 3 is the only tragedy here, and it's useless to pretend any different.
Call me when Kingdom Hearts/Metal Gear/Resident Evil gets cancelled.
LOL to me this shows total lack of confidence in their own game, they are waiting for the 3DS to sell more so that when they put out their crap they hope to sell it to enough people to turn a profit. Even with current system sales, look at Ocarina and it's sales numbers. So it's possible to make the bucks, but not if you know your game sucks and no one will buy it.
This doesnt make any sense to me. If youve already got the game working on 3DS then release it! I will probably buy it because there is nothing else on the 3DS at the moment. Release it later when Metal Gear and Luigis Mansion and everything else are out and i probably wont buy it. Also them not releasing it makes it seem like they have no confidence in the game at all. Like they believe it will only sell if there are plenty of extra chumps willing to take a chance on some shovelware. Even though if its just a port of the psp version i know its not shovelware. Its a great game!
"This is really disappointing. This, Sonic Generations, Cave Story delayed. Mega Man canceled. Fuck 3DS, I'm getting a Vita first."
Yeah that's the right attitude to have. I'm sure that will help get more games on the 3DS, if more people like you, just don't buy it. If you were never going to buy a 3DS, in the first place, than why would you even care about this? The thing is, the 3DS sales are really not that bad, considering that it has to around 5 million by now, if it sold 3.6 million by the end of March. So that took 4 month to sell what the original DS sold in 6 months, because Nintendo announced at E3'05, that the DS has sold 5 million unite in its first 6 months.
So I don't see how that's dire-straights for the 3DS. People see that the DS has sold over 146 million units and they think that all happened over night, but it took years for the DS's install base to gradually get that high. The 3DS is on better pace right now, than the DS was, at the same time in its life cycle, so people are just over-reacting at this point. A couple of games getting delayed or canceled happens to every console in its first year, but that doesn't take away from all the other great games, that are still coming out for the system!
Yeah that's the right attitude to have. I'm sure that will help get more games on the 3DS, if more people like you, just don't buy it. If you were never going to buy a 3DS, in the first place, than why would you even care about this? The thing is, the 3DS sales are really not that bad, considering that it has to around 5 million by now, if it sold 3.6 million by the end of March. So that took 4 month to sell what the original DS sold in 6 months, because Nintendo announced at E3'05, that the DS has sold 5 million unite in its first 6 months.
So I don't see how that's dire-straights for the 3DS. People see that the DS has sold over 146 million units and they think that all happened over night, but it took years for the DS's install base to gradually get that high. The 3DS is on better pace right now, than the DS was, at the same time in its life cycle, so people are just over-reacting at this point. A couple of games getting delayed or canceled happens to every console in its first year, but that doesn't take away from all the other great games, that are still coming out for the system!
..... this is why the effing Wii failed ....
"we have a game that won't suck but we are waiting for the sales to pick up so we can feel comfortable releasing this game that would increase sales...."
NEWS FLASH.... if you don't start releasing games ..... sales will never pick up........
"we have a game that won't suck but we are waiting for the sales to pick up so we can feel comfortable releasing this game that would increase sales...."
NEWS FLASH.... if you don't start releasing games ..... sales will never pick up........
More like they have very little faith that anyone will give two shts about their game. Delaying it gives it med coverage so more people are aware of it. Even if every person in the US owned a 3ds, this isn't going to be a best seller.
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