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Could the BBFC face the axe? Manhunt 2 fiasco has 'bruised' credibility
by Jim Sterling on 03.20.2008 23 comments

Could the BBFC face the axe? Manhunt 2 fiasco has 'bruised' credibility screenshot

In the wake of the BBFC being overruled in its attempts to keep Rockstar's Manhunt 2 banned, pundits are now predicting that the ratings board could face losing the ability to rate videogames. PEGI, Europe's dedicated games rating system, would likely have sole control over videogame releases in the UK if the BBFC gets kicked aside.

"The grudging nature of the BBFC’s statement, that it now has "no alternative" but to grant the title a certificate, coupled with the fact the body went to the High Court, twice rejected the game itself and tried to overturn the original judgment of the VAC leaves the organization with its credibility bruised," claimed BBC News technology index editor Darren Waters.

The BBFC went to extraordinary lengths to keep Manhunt 2 from store shelves, and seemed to win itself no fans in the process. Tanya Byron, who is expected to publish her report on videogame violence for the British government very soon, is also said to favor PEGI over the BBFC. It seems that the board's jurisdiction over videogames could soon be heading into numbered days. 

Given the BBFC's aptitude for smugness, it would be quite funny to see the board slapped down, especially after declaring its wishes to rate every game in Britain. The BBFC announced it was up to the challenge of rating my home country's videogame content, but it would appear that not many outside of the BBFC itself share that sentiment.  I wouldn't miss the BBFC, at any rate.

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Latest comment by HarassmentPanda |view all 23 comments
I don't know much about European ratings groups at all, but is PEGI any better?...





Snaileb 's Avatar
Snaileb at 03/20/2008 10:49

Mission accomplished Mr.Sterling.
MrSadistic's Avatar
MrSadistic at 03/20/2008 10:50

Well that sucks. I mean for the BBFC that is.
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F Whipple at 03/20/2008 10:51

Destructoid 1-Corporate douchery 0
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Jetsetlemming at 03/20/2008 10:53

Good.

Wait, what's PEGI's stance on bullshittery and inane chillun protection?
king3vbo's Avatar
king3vbo at 03/20/2008 11:02

I place all the blame on Mr. Sterling
Crapsh00t's Avatar
Crapsh00t at 03/20/2008 11:05

This is relevant to my interests.

Wait. I was incorrect in my previous statement.
Holyetheline's Avatar
Holyetheline at 03/20/2008 11:10

so much fuss over such a crappy game. I know, I know... It's the principal of the matter. yay
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Jim Sterling at 03/20/2008 11:12

It's not really a Manhunt 2 issue anymore. This will affect every videogame release in Britain. I think that's pretty important for our British readers.
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Gemsi at 03/20/2008 11:18

PEGI has always seemed to be pretty good, if they replace the BBFC and aren't asses it could be a great thing
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Miguelcar808 at 03/20/2008 11:21

It will be good news for the UK because PEGI can't prevent games from being released.
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superhobo at 03/20/2008 11:26

PEGI aren't asses. We get every european release here in Ireland. Except for the fact that Manhunt 2 was actually rated by the Film Censors Office here for no apparent good reason. Bullshit, seeing as how every other game is handled by PEGI.
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Crapsh00t at 03/20/2008 11:27

However, the precedent for legally enforced game ratings has been set... either PEGI's standards will be taken as the new enforceable standard or a new board will be created, I would think.
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brad drac at 03/20/2008 11:30

Yup, no complaints about PEGI. Hurray for the notion of the BBFC getting the fuck out of our internets.
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JustLikeBuck at 03/20/2008 11:31

I think the BBFC dilute the rating system. The BBFC rate things on violence, sex, and language; nothing else.

So I think a lot of games have been screwed over by this because they had too much of the above, or none at all. Thus their market were torn in half.

PEGI seem ok; whilst their ratings aren't (as far as I'm aware) legally unenforceable in the UK, they do seem to have a better grasp of which games will be suitable from which age.

I believe they also provide a brief description of the themese present in a game, something the BBCF doesn't do and thus giving off the "Mother knows best" airs.
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Murumasa123 at 03/20/2008 11:44

The moment a ratings board rufuses to classify anything thats not snuff its appaling in the world of internet.

As Jim has said before id like the oppotunity to look at a game and go- " i dont wanna buy that, but im glad i could"

I hope they classify the original version too...
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Professor Pew at 03/20/2008 11:49

Hurray for free speech!
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Anus Mcphanus at 03/20/2008 12:26

Does that mean that the PEGI ratings will be legally enforced like the BBFC ratings?
Either way this is sweet! Let's just hope PEGI doesn't get drunk with power and make us want the BBFC back.
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brainderailment at 03/20/2008 12:28

sweet
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Evo at 03/20/2008 15:27

It would be truly great if the BBFC was to lose its video game rating credentials and have them passed onto the PEGI.

PEGI for life!
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WeAreTheLolocaust at 03/20/2008 15:46

Not that deferring to the PEGI system would change much really.

After Manhunt 1 was implicated in a murder case, many shops simply refused to sell it, as a result of that it was nigh on impossible to find.

When any rating is granted it is no way a guarantee of actually getting the choice to buy the game. The government can still block release, as can local authorities, for example if Cambridgeshire County Council decide a game is unsuitable, they can affectively 'ban' it from sale in the area.

While I personally favour a single ratings board for games, I can't blame the BBFC for doing a fantastic job 99.9% of the time. Two games banned in twenty years is hardly the sign of an outdated, single-minded organisation.

Instead of crying victory for Destructoid, or by extension Jim, we should instead remember that most of the decision will fall upon Tanya Byron's report, not the continued rantings of a blogger on a gaming site.

Nothing personal Jim, I leave that kind of hate to Bouncybhall, but you have to admit that you had no part in this decision, and letting people state "Mission Accomplished Mr. Sterling" is only ego boosting, and purely speculative.

I wrote a statement to Byron, I have been contacting the BBFC for over a decade on a number of matters, and I have spoken to my local MP about getting a better system of ratings in local stores where general ignorance on the part of indie shop owners and parents alike often resulted in underage gamers getting mature titles. At no point do I claim any victory, because we all contribute to the results, one way or another.
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mistic at 03/20/2008 17:55

Well it would be better to get a unified system for the whole of europe... now germany should still follow suit and throw out there ridiculous rules...
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WeAreTheLolocaust at 03/20/2008 18:39

@mistic

Bollocks to that, one unified system for the whole of Europe would be worse than the BBFC.

It's all fine and well inpractice, but there have to be regional differences, and I think the UK should most definitely come under seperate scrutiny by the one group.

If PEGI had to make rating decisions based on an entire continents ideology and view on censorship/gaming/the word cunt, well it would be farcical.

As things stand, the PEGI rating in the UK is suggestion, not law, and this should continue. However, the retailers should be made responsible for materials, under new laws that encapsulate the PEGI ratings. No amount of ratings and critics can stop a dodgy retailer selling a copy of GTA IV to a kid.
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HarassmentPanda at 03/23/2008 19:22

I don't know much about European ratings groups at all, but is PEGI any better?

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