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Conduit 2 dev accused of trashing game reviewer's book photo

Conduit 2 developer High Voltage stands accused of attempting to "Amazonbomb" a man's book in retaliation for a negative Conduit 2 review. Michael T. Murdock called Conduit 2 "appalling" and trashed the graphics, voice acting and story -- even revealing a big spoiler in order to tear it apart. 

High Voltage took notice, and art director Matt Corso thought it would be fun if the Conduit 2 team looked up Murdock's book, The Dragon Ruby, and provided a little criticism of their own via Amazon's user review system. 

"Michael was kind enough to recently provide us with a Conduit 2 review," said Corso in a staff email. "And so in turn you all should feel at liberty to (of course read it first) and then return the favor by writing a reader review for Michael’s book for him."

Such reviews were provided, though if it was an attempt to Amazonbomb, it was a bad one. Four reviews popped up, all at the same time, and one of them was quickly removed after the accusations started flying. Since the story broke this week, more negative reviews from trolls have popped up, but not enough to do much more damage.

High Voltage Chief Creative Officer Eric Nofsinger confirmed with Wired.com that Corso's email was genuine, but denied that it was a serious attempt to cause trouble. 

"I think he wrote it in a very tongue-in-cheek kinda way," he told Wired. "We would want to never attack anyone for their opinions on a game."

Corso said he didn't mean any harm, and sincerely wanted to check the book out: "My mind really wasn’t in that dark of a place when I wrote that. In fact I seriously considered buying the book myself. I wanted to know how good it really was that this guy felt so in the right to trash our game and give away the ending like he did. And then post a plug to his book at the end, implying that we suck and he is totally great."

Meanwhile, Murdock isn't buying it, and thinks High Voltage is trying to backtrack. 

"They don’t honestly care about what happened, and they’re trying to get their hands out of the cookie jar before they get smacked," stated the reviewer in an email to Wired. "They simply have no remorse for what they’ve done, and they think the industry and everyone else will just laugh it off. I hope that doesn’t happen. A game company shouldn’t just keep shooting themselves in the foot, hoping their limp goes away."

Whatever way you look at it, Murdock's been punished for giving his opinion of a videogame. Be it through High Voltage's chicanery or the trolls that have attempted to stir shit since the story blew up, a man's book was trashed not because of its quality, but because people were angry over a videogame review. That's pretty pathetic, whatever way you slice it. 

Makes me scared to finish my book ... available in all good stores soon!

Conduit 2 Developer Calls for Internal Retaliation Against Author of Negative Joystiq Review [Marooner's Rock]
Leaked E-Mail Suggests Retaliation for Negative Game Review [Wired]








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Ilostmycookie's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 09:08
Ilostmycookie
Who takes user reviews seriously again?
Bloodyghost's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 09:17
Bloodyghost
Wow. Either take criticism like a man so you can make a better product, dont act like your in elementary school.
thebill's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 09:21
thebill
"even revealing a big spoiler in order to tear it apart. "

In other words, this guy is a hack and shouldn't be paid attention to?

sounds like the devs are more upset he was a d-bag and gave away a huge spoiler in the game, just to be a jerk. To me that makes him an awful reviewer in the first place. Neither side is in the right here, but at least the devs aren't pretending to be good reviewers.
Aaron Mxy Yost's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 09:22
Aaron Mxy Yost
Sounds like a mature and classy way to handle a bad review. I wonder who leaked the email, someone in the company who thought it was tactless?
Wedge's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 09:23
Wedge
High Voltage's investment funding must be running out right? They can't have ever made any money from their actual work...
Damnation02's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 09:24
Damnation02
"Makes me scared to finish my book ... available in all good stores soon!"

Book? Does that mean that Jim Sterling: The Game was canceled? :O
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 09:28
The Silent Protagonist
I remember the first thing one of my friends showed me about FFVII was the death of Aeris. Gee, thanks for that. Kinda doesn't have the same impact when you just show her getting skewered before getting to know anything about her. If my friend wanted to show me why FFVII was awesome and used that, he failed horribly.

When you spoil a game in review just to make your point, your review also fails horribly. People don't read reviews for spoilers.

The author behaved like a douche in his review. Being a douche tends to breed douchiness, so he shouldn't be remotely upset that some returned his way on any front.

The guy from High Voltage could have taken the high ground though. A lot of developers out there would be better off not responding to critics in any way, no matter how much of a douche the reviewer might be. If the reviewer is a douche, people will know.
Barry Burton's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 09:32
Barry Burton
Game developers are soooooo far from being mature and professional. Sadly.
Evergreen's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 09:35
Evergreen
Well, now people are more aware of his book... I wouldn't be surprised if Murdock notices a slight bump in sales as a result of this.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 09:42
Chris Carter
I believe it - Conduit 1 and 2 were awful, and would have been laughed off the 360 and PS3. At best, it should have been an XBLA game that was bumping week one, and then have the community ditch it after that (like most failed XBLA shooters). I remember playing Conduit 1 at E3, and feeling like it was an alpha version - it was the final build (lol).

@Jim
I'll bite :D - what's the title of your book, and the expected release date? I'd pre-order the shit out of that (does it come with an official Gamestop poster and DLC costume code?)
UltorOscariot's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 09:44
UltorOscariot
Murdock shouldn't have spoiled anything, but retaliating? Way to keep it classy, High Voltage.
Script-br's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 09:44
Script-br
Why there's no "Amazonbomb" option in Game Dev Story?
MasterBalls's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 09:47
MasterBalls
I love how these guys so desperately attempt to pander to an audience on Wii that blatantly isn't there.
Nunchuckles's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 09:50
Nunchuckles
Isnt there a rule where you shouldn't spoil the ending in a review. Or is that just common sense. Cunt face deserves whats coming to him, not because of all the trashy things he said about the game, but because he spoiled the ending and also had the audacity to plug his own book. And who even cares about user review's? People can just look up critic reviews just as easily, if critics even spent the time to even read his book.
Epic-Kx's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 09:51
Epic-Kx
@Magnalon
Battlefield 1943, Section 8: Prejudice, Quake Arena Arcade, and Duke Nukem 3D invalidates your statement.


Also, the reviewer spoiled the ending--isn't that something professionals should not do? Jim, answer me this: don't reviewers have a code of conduct regarding the ending and not mentioning details of it, or is it just common courtesy to not mention it.

Otherwise, I loved Conduit 1 and I dug Conduit 2 (JON ST JOHN IS IN IT!) But this was a dick move from both the dev and HVS.
MuddBstrd's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 09:56
MuddBstrd
This sounds like it would be a great first episode for my new reality show, "Douchebags Douching Douchebags".
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 09:58
Chris Carter
@Epic
Read my comment again. "Like most failed XBLA shooters". You mentioned 4 successful ones (I also have Duke 3D XBLA, and I don't see anyone online - I'd agree with the other 3).

How many XBLA shooters are there out there? 50 at least? I'm talking Breach level of failure here.

Note that I said most.

@Epic again
As a reviewer myself, I have a policy of not spoiling endings/major plot points. However, if your review states that the game is such a piece of crap that you should never play it, I can see how that would be ok.

Again, personally, I wouldn't do it, but if your recommendation is to skip the game, as a reader, I wouldn't care.
TheNephilym's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 10:00
TheNephilym
That's pretty pathetic. Plain and simple. Jim, don't plug any books in your reviews. That's kind of pathetic, too.
sofik88's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 10:01
sofik88
i've read his "review" and it was same level of quality as Conduit 1 review(from gamespot or other big site) where guy gave the game 3-4/10 without even playing the game which he stated in almost every single paragraph of the 2 pages long review. also considering earlier reviews of his book which called it generic i'm not sad by the whole situation at all. i'm on the High Voltage side on this one.

to people who question High Voltage(and other developers of core/more serious wii games) try reading some of those reviews and frankly you probably would do the same. metacritic/gamerankings is filled with "reviews" from big gaming sites where the whole purpose of those "reviews" was to trash the wii without even trying to play the actual game. i remember one of Mario Kart Wii reviews where guy gave the game low score after 1 hour of playtime simply because he couldn't win a single race.
Rokco's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 10:02
Rokco
I have played neither Conduit 1 or 2. I would like to check out conduit 2. It seems very immature of High Voltage to try and Amazonbomb the reviewer's book, but it's also really douchey to give spoilers in a review and shamelessly plug your own book at the end.
bobyoko's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 10:02
bobyoko
this just in, hvs is lame.
TheNephilym's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 10:05
TheNephilym
Oh, and Murdock shouldn't have put a major spoiler in his review. That's a pretty shit thing to do for the people actually interested in the game if anything. Suppose they read his review to get a second opinion before grabbing the game. Even if they saw through all his hyperbole that big slap in the face at the end may just change their mind all together. So yeah... There's some major douchebaggery at work on both sides of this squabble.
tahmidk's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 10:08
tahmidk
conduit 2 is the worst game of 2011 so far anyway
Kaden101's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 10:16
Kaden101
@The Silent Protagonist

Aeris dies?!! You bastard, you completely spoilt FFVII for me. There's now no point playing a game I had no plans to play anyway.

Thanks for that. ;-)
Dr-Peace's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 10:17
Dr-Peace
I just read the mans review of Conduit 2...


What a complete JACKASS. He DESERVES all the fun the High Voltage employee's had with him. He doesn't give the game a chance, spoils the ending, gives opinions that are madness at this point (Conduit having bad controls...), and just outright lies about the games quality.

Hate breeds hate, especially when you're trashing a game that tons of people put countless hours and resources into, far more than your piddling book.
Phoenix Gamma's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 10:17
Phoenix Gamma
Did you SEE the ending to Conduit 2?!

I mean...SERIOUSLY. That shit's fucking hilarious, and I don't think they intended it to be.

If ANYONE knows awful writing, it's High Voltage!
jaybob's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 10:22
jaybob
"They don’t honestly care about what happened, and they’re trying to get their hands out of the cookie jar before they get smacked," stated the reviewer. "They simply have no remorse for what they’ve done, and they think the industry and everyone else will just laugh it off. I hope that doesn’t happen. A game company shouldn’t just keep shooting themselves in the foot, hoping their limp goes away."

What an absolute hypocrite. Does he feel any remorse for his trashing of the game and the devs. Bet you he doesn't. And no, it was not a review, it was simply trashing people's work for his own pleasure.
Elsa's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 10:26
Elsa
Unfortunately the actions of the devs probably gave this man far more attention than he deserves.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 10:32
Chris Carter
You guys are forgetting devs are professionals, and represent the company.

I don't care if the reviewer gave it a 0/10 on a napkin: the dev could have responded in a mature manner, on a blog, but he didn't.
Zantetsuken's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 10:34
Zantetsuken
All these people bitching about him spoiling the ending seem to miss that he gave ample warning that he was going to spoil it.

Glad I don't have to play it now because the ending is fucking retarded.
Wolfy-Boey's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 10:41
Wolfy-Boey
@Script-br

I Loled.
TheNephilym's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 10:53
TheNephilym
http://www.joystiq.com/2011/05/03/conduit-2-review/

Read it for yourselves. It's actually pretty tame IMO, and he does give clear warning before the spoiler. He played the game, too, despite what another poster says. He played it and has full right to his opinion which he clearly presented here without mincing words. Shame on him for doing his job, right? If that review is what pissed these Devs off then they need to grow up and just concentrate on making a better game next time.

Personal highlight: "The creativity of the level design is ... well, it's non-existent. I know players complain about FPS games having the same maps over and over, or every room looking the same, but only Conduit 2 does it and has the guts to comment on it three-quarters of the way through. Ford asks, "Hey, wasn't I just in here?" and your little metal ball gives a big explanation about companies saving money on construction by making rooms very similar, "like they sometimes do in modern video games." Ha-ha! It's okay as long as it makes fun of itself, right?"
Firelordzero's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 10:55
Firelordzero
Just a little bit curious, a lot of people are bashing both the conduit and the conduit 2, but did anyone actually play them? I played the first one and it was legitimately not that bad, it wasn't that good either mind you, but it certainly didn't deserve the level of hate it gets from some people.
jaybob's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 11:01
jaybob
@TheNephilym

His job? come on. He was being an ass. He was doing the same thing they did to him. They have a right to their opinion too right?
PEICanada7's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 11:12
PEICanada7
“Whatever way you look at it, Murdock's been punished for giving his opinion of a videogame. Be it through High Voltage's chicanery or the trolls that have attempted to stir shit since the story blew up, a man's book was trashed not because of its quality, but because people were angry over a videogame review. That's pretty pathetic, whatever way you slice it.”

Why are they instantly correlating it, to workers at HVS doing this? Couldn't it easily just be angry fans of the game doing it on their own? I find it ironic, because so many people at Joystiq loved the fact, that the women who talked bad about Mass Effect on Fox News, book got bombarded with bad 1 Star reviews after it. Its not so nice now, that the shoe is on the other foot. LOL!
TheNephilym's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 11:15
TheNephilym
@jaybob

Um.. no. He was payed to give his opinion, which he did. That's his job. They got their panties in a wad about it and trashed his book as an act of revenge. He wasn't being an ass. He thought the game was terrible and said so. He made clear and valid points throughout. Jim Sterling has given MUCH more critical, over the top reviews than this guy. Should the guys who made Socom 4 start trolling Jim now?
InternetBatman's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 11:24
InternetBatman
That was just a douchey review. I don't feel bad at all for him and he deserved it. I normally respect that reviewers have different opinions even when I disagree, but the tone of that article was awful. It's adolescent, negative, hyperbolic, attention seeking. This is coming from someone who would have given Alpha Protocol a 6 or 7 and still found Jim's review informative.
TheNephilym's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 11:34
TheNephilym
@InternetBatman

Well, in my opinion your opinion of his opinion is wrong. lol
pokota's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 11:36
pokota
Regardless of anything else, the email did not direct employees to do anything unethical, which does lead me to believe it was tongue-in-cheek. I doubt he thought anyone on the staff would actually read the book.

Based on the wording, this is a non-issue.
Davoidbot's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 11:47
Davoidbot
Meh, I never read at Joystiq, but I read the review in question. It seems like Murdock is trying to be the Simon Cowell of that site. I don't think High Voltage should've even implied to give that person's book a bad review as a retaliation, but I can't really bring myself to feel sorry for Murdock at all.
DAVYDOCK's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 11:53
DAVYDOCK
Assassin Creed brotherhood's story is bollocks.



........Sorry what.
Pumpkin King's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 11:57
Pumpkin King
How fucking immature. Not the reviewer, but High Voltage. He gave a review, so what? He can bash a game as long as he has valid reasons. He gave a warning before the spoiler. So many game developers out there today don't know how to act professional.
Kakujo's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 12:00
Kakujo
More and more, I doubt the usefulness of Amazon's review system...
ismegamanthere's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 12:03
ismegamanthere
Eh, just read the review. It was fine, I love brutal honesty. The devs need to get the sand out of their vaginas.
ikiryou's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 12:03
ikiryou
Someone please wake me when the dev and the reviewer have a pitched but naturally short sword battle featuring 110 lb. buster swords in an empty parking lot? Thanks!

**SPOILER**

They both give up *shrug*.
Gamernerd101's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 12:05
Gamernerd101
Both are stupid, but I have to give more leeway to High Voltage since the reviewer didn't write a review giving anyway perspective on the game just used it as a bash fest for reasons that were not clearly definded throughout the review. I understand if the game sucked but if you're writing it you should clearly define WHY it sucked. Not just give the general statement because I said and I hate this game.

Still if the reviews were jokes than I guess it may be tolerable at best. Since they weren't that's stooping to the low the reviewer was at in the first place and they're both asses.
The Average Guy's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 12:30
The Average Guy
@thebill: Which is more likely, that a developer is pissed because a reviewer spoiled the neding or that the developer is pissed that the reviewer completely trashed the game?
Cudgeon's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 12:33
Cudgeon
Don't get it. He trashed a game and a lot of work and now complains that they trash his book?
Sometimes Reviewer have a warped mind...
The Average Guy's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/22/2011 12:36
The Average Guy
@Cudgeon: If he thinks the game is trash, then he kind of has the right to review it as if it were trash. =D
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