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Comic-Con 08: New Marvel: Ultimate Alliance 2 trailer is a let down

2:38 PM on 07.24.2008, Hamza CTZ Aziz 40 comments

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When I saw the debut teaser for Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 Fusion during E3, I got pretty excited. The teaser said that we'd be able to fuse Marvel's greatest heroes powers together. As it turns out, Activision meant something completely different from what people were probably expecting.

All of the attacks shown in the trailer have nothing to do with fusion. What's really happening is "team attack". THE HULK PICKING UP WOLVERINE, SPINNING HIM AROUND AND THEN THROWING HIM IS NOT FUSION. Now the Hulk receiving Wolverine's claws (albeit pretty pointless) would be fusion. 

When I think fusion, I think of Dragon Ball Z where Goku and Vegeta become one body (this is where I would link to a clip of said fusion except everything on YouTube related to DBZ is a sh*tty AMV set to Linkin Park). Hell, even the Fantastic Four 2 movie had a fusion deal at the end where the Human Torch absorbed Mr. Fantastic and The Things powers to confront Dr. Doom.

Ugh. I'm going to go fuse a knife into my eyes now. 


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s0lesurviv0r's Avatar
s0lesurviv0r at 07/24/2008 14:43
Hey, I thought it was only Wolverine and Colossus that did the "Fastball Special"
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Cutie Honey at 07/24/2008 14:44
As a Marvel fan, this trailer was exactly what I thought they would do when they're talking about fusion. I even guessed the Hulk would throw people at other people.

I'm suprised people took it as literally fusion.
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HarassmentPanda at 07/24/2008 14:46
As big of a Cap fan as I am, I just couldn't get into the first Marvel: Ultimate Alliance. I just got bored with the game, like the LEGO games. I hope this one bring some more exciting/varied gameplay to the table.
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F Whipple at 07/24/2008 14:48
I loved the original, can't wait for this one
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foxhound421 at 07/24/2008 14:49
just what we need, more gimmicks.
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AgentMOO at 07/24/2008 14:49
Hmmm... gimmick team moves
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taterchimp at 07/24/2008 14:54
Reminds me of Invader Zim. A good fusion just needs some duct tape. And maybe a juice box.
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GuitarAtomik at 07/24/2008 14:59
Eh, it could still be cool. I never played the first but I liked the X-Men:Legends games so I'll probably check this out.
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Hamza CTZ Aziz at 07/24/2008 15:01
tater: DAMN IT! I can't believe I didn't work in the Zim joke ...

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Def JM at 07/24/2008 15:01
Where the hell is thor?
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heretrix at 07/24/2008 15:05
I feel exactly the opposite about this. I was relieved when I heard it wasn't a literal fusion of powers, as it would rob the characters of their individual personalities (kinda). I don't want to see The Hulk turn invisible or any other nonsense like that because then he would no longer be The Hulk. Superheroes are pretty much defined by their powers and mixing them up would throw all kinds of fuck into that equation...
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taterchimp at 07/24/2008 15:13
Yessss....thats what im talking about.
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CjnLion at 07/24/2008 15:32
I agree with heretrix, I'd much rather have team attacks than some kind of fusion. Also, I'm pretty sure this was cleared up before E3 in GameInformer. I don't usually read game magazines, but I happened to flip through one and read about Alliance 2's fusion attacks a few weeks ago. From what it described, I might give it a try.
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aaronf at 07/24/2008 15:47
I expected Fusion to be another way to describe a "team attack". I don't know why you expected the characters to "mind meld" and become one.
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ghettobelmontes at 07/24/2008 16:08
I can't believe people thought that "fusion" would mean two super heroes (or at least their powers) actually and literally "fusing". Thats ridiculous. But what is also ridiculous is people thinking that the team attacks is something new. Xmen legends had it and so did UA. OPTIC CLAW! LIGHTNING SMASH!
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maxhavoc2000 at 07/24/2008 16:11
The fusion is between the powers. Not the heroes themselves. I dunno why anyone thought it would be the heroes fusing together. I think that would have been lame.
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brainderailment at 07/24/2008 16:14
That's not fusion, it's team work.
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qazwsx1298 at 07/24/2008 16:15
For me the let down has nothing to do with the "fusion." Rather I don't want to believe that the enemies stand perfectly still in order for you to completely execute the attack. Also, the animation quality is a bit low :\
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Usedtabe at 07/24/2008 16:20
@Brainderailment: Exactly. Poor choice of wording for what amounts to "teamwork".
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PaperBowser0 at 07/24/2008 16:25
Where's fusion again?
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Christiangamer at 07/24/2008 16:37
Why even have the Thing as a playable character when the Hulk is in the game?
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king3vbo at 07/24/2008 16:42
Fusion requires less pants
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TrailerParkJesus at 07/24/2008 16:56
I just read about this on GI, didn't think fusion meant anything fancier than what's in game.

But then right before I read the chart that showed some examples of the possible combination attacks, the idea of actually fusing powers came to mind. Although it would only make sense in a game where they allowed you to makes your own superhero/villian. Then I thought that would be cool feature to include, but probably not gonna happen.
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KGBrAm at 07/24/2008 16:58
You guys never fail to amaze me.

Literal fusion of heroes? Come on...

This is an upgrade to the Team Attack system in place since the X-Men Legends 1 game.

Except this time instead of having 'Optic Claw +2 Dam' show up on screen when Cyclops teams up with Wolverine it seems like the 'fusion' actually creates a new effect.

Look at the trailer, it has 2 examples...

Sue Storm creates a force field, Iron Man fills it up with energy.

So we have one defensive move: The Force Field
We also have a single target damage power: The Energy Bolt.

Fuse them together, what do we get? A throwable object that explodes to create an area of effect bomb.

The other example...

Spidey ties up a few bad guys and 'roots' them into place.
Iron man zaps the webs and they become electrified.

This is a bit gimmicky, I'll agree. It's not meant to be the second coming of Christ, it's a upgrade of the previous system. It just seems that this time we will be able to create different game effects/mechanics instead of just getting a Damage increase.

Get info before commenting, it helps.


A bit disappointed on the reporting of this story, the X-Men and Ultimate Alliance games have always been well made and well received critically. Nothing in these games can really qualify as UBER innovative or awesome, but the design, visuals and gameplay are solid.

This should be no exception.
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BattyAdroit at 07/24/2008 17:08
You honestly seem surprised that there is no literal fusion.

Who wrote this article? Oh, Hamza.

Par for the course, fail.
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Professor Pew at 07/24/2008 18:15
Very disappointing, why even call the game Fusion when it's like this? Like anyone wants to waste more than 3 seconds at any time in Marvel UA :/
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AgentMOO at 07/24/2008 18:32
This is like a business meeting when some fucker goes on about creating "synergies".
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Puppy Licks at 07/24/2008 19:15
"Ugh. I'm going to go fuse a knife into my eyes now."
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MechaMonkey at 07/24/2008 20:40
Ummm... didn't they combine powers in the first game too? I don't see how this is different.
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Sheikh Yerbouti at 07/24/2008 22:58
I was more afraid they actually fuze the heroes into one. That'd suck. Maybe they improved team combos. Here is just look like it is a cinematic. Maybe that's it.

So what. As a comic fan, they had me at Marvel.
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Hamza CTZ Aziz at 07/25/2008 00:53
What the fuck is the point of hyping up a game based on fusion when it's just team attacks. Sorry, I don't want more of the same as the last game. I actually want to see the Hulk and Spiderman or whoever to fuse together for a short period of time. I still want this game, but it's not what I was expecting.

RobotFart: I love you.
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Niero at 07/25/2008 01:44
I thought they meant that as well. You know, like fusion cooking, etc. I don't know what else they would call it, but I understand why people are upset about the use of the word.

I guess 'borrowing' is underwhelming?
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pizzaface at 07/25/2008 05:16
FYOO! SHUN! HAH!
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Butmac at 07/25/2008 07:50
Wow.

I completely 100% agree with KGBrAm

If you were hoping Wolverine and The Human Torch were going to FUUUUSEEEE TOGETHERRRRRRRR - that would have been the gayest thing of all time and everyone would have bashed it. Why can't fusion be combining powers to make more powerful attacks.

WHY IS THERE NO SATISFYING THE MOB??
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KGBrAm at 07/25/2008 13:07
I have no clue Butmac...no clue at all.

I will probably blame teh internets and the school system :P
(Everybody else does)
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