For the New York Yankees’ sake, I sure hope Philadelphia Phillies pitcher Cole Hamels continues his sub-par playoff performance tomorrow night in Game 3 of the World Series. But as much as I want to see him crash and burn against the Yankees, I have to hand it to him -- this public service announcement imploring Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 players to avoid throwing grenades randomly is pretty damn funny (its NSFW language contributes to that).
At this point, I’ve just about hit “information overload” on Modern Warfare 2 -- the game’s going to be out in a week and a half, and I’m just going to play it when it releases. But unlike some controversial footage from earlier in the week, this doesn’t spoil anything; it’s just a good bit of fun. (And for some reason, I find it funny to hear a baseball player swear. I can’t explain it.)
I, for one, strongly suggest that you all follow Hamels’ sage advice, because like him, I’m tired of seeing a killcam replay where someone merely runs forward and tosses a grenade as far as they can in the general direction of the opposing team. Remember: that bush-league stuff is for pussies.
[Update: For the record, everyone, I completely missed the "Fight Against Grenade Spam" thing the first time around, and I didn't realize it until after I saw everyone lambasting Infinity Ward on Twitter and the Web. Obviously, that (apparently anti-gay) message is not something that Destructoid or I endorse, and had I noticed it before this story went live, the tone of the post would've been completely different.
As it turns out, Infinity Ward has pulled the video; you can check out their official response here. -Samit]
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Well, when video games become a real way to prove one's manhood, I'll start worrying about being a "pussy" when I throw random grenades. It's not like we're talking about kicking one's balls during a fight or something. I'm pretty sure the top of the CoD 4 leaderboards aren't filled with the toughest people on the face of the planet. Actually, it's pretty much just shut-ins.
Also, I don't usually indulge in trolling, but knowing that so many people hate random grenades makes it that much sweeter when one kills an opponent. It's the same way with martyrdom. You toss a random grenade (or in the case of martyrdom, simply die) and then a moment later you see that wonderful "+10" on the screen. So awesome.
So, snow ghillie suits, silenced snipers and a new look for grenades confirmed?
Also, random grenades aren't always random. A lot of spots that are areas of high congregation. If you've played any FPS there's going to be strategic points to lob grenades.
Here's an idea -- if you, the designers of a game, want the players of your game to not throw grenades randomly, then maybe you can DESIGN A FUCKING GAME WHERE RANDOMLY THROWING GRENADES IS NOT A REASONABLE STRATEGY.
Seriously though, a lot of the 'random grenades' are actually strategically thrown. It just looks like they are random because seasoned players throw them without even having to think about it. They just target spots where there is high traffic and n00bs just happen to be there to complain about it when the 'nade kills them.
My grenades just have a way of finding people dumb enough to try and chase me. Nothing random about that.
If the game had throwing knives, I'd just use those. Much more fun than shooting people. Grenades and Proxy Mines are the next best thing, particularly in bottlenecked areas. Vehicles in inappropriate corridors can also be fun.
Really though, I have yet to play any FPS that didn't consist of whiny brats crying about "random grenades" or how using a sniper rifle is "cheating."
@Zippyduda, Preacherman: just because you know where the high traffic areas are, and you know how to arc your grenade from across the map to hit that area, doesn't mean it's not a douchey tactic. It may not be "random" in the truest sense of the word, but my view is that grenades are for when you know an enemy is in a fortified position, where simply rushing in would spell death, the more honorable player can flush them out. Yeah, you are putting it in a place that statistically has a better chance of hitting somebody, but you don't *know* people are there, and that you can kill somebody from across the map based almost entirely on luck is ridiculous.
@Dexter245
I see your point. I myself do not throw random grenades and to be honest I don't have a problem with those that do. I do however understand that it is apparently a big issue within the community.
I totally agree Samit, making fun of gay people is hilarious! I hear the gayness removes their feelings, so you don't have the guilt like when harassing minorities and such.
they should make an achievement for random grenade throwing
because the games A.I. will be able to tell the difference between a random grenade and a strategic one
I mean I can tell when someone sees an enemy then throws a grenade
v.s.
when someone just thinks an enemy is there
right ...
Hey, for the record, folks, I legitimately missed the "F.A.G.S." thing until someone pointed it out on Twitter. (Call me stupid, but I have a knack for missing stuff like that.) That's definitely not funny, and it's not cool, either.
Personally I would like to see Destructoid update the article to point out they don't support the FAGS message. What a bunch of idiots (activision/IW) Online gaming is really going to become a horrid place to be if we let things like this slide.
if you throw a grenade, and it kills someone, you did good. if you throw one and it doesn't kill someone, you're a grenade down and you should have saved it.
stop whining about it, you pussy bitches. stop trying to homogenise COD.
WE CAN'T STOP YOU THROWING RANDOM GRENADES BUT DON'T LIKE IT DON'T DO IT... PLEASE ;_;
I for one are in support of random grenades, although Martyrdom can go DIAF. Until they think of a way to prevent grenade kills from spamming, then I'll happily continue spamming grenades.
Yeah, hopefully the AI doesn't have a gigantic bucket of grenades that they each carry around and toss handfuls at a time like its a fucking parade. That made me want to end my life. Also, I'm all for getting rid of martyrdom. I hate that perk so much. It's just sad that you have to train yourself to avoid dead bodies, which is what happens unless you want some stupid asshole getting a cheap kill on you. Its not like it even helps with a kill streak, you're already dead! Very lame.
So, I guess with the F.A.G.S thing, IW/Activision are just proving that they have just as much of a mentality as the 13 year olds on xbox live. I'm usually not that bothered by things, but honestly what the fuck were any of them thinking?
Fuck the Phillies and fuck the Yankees. This is like some AvP shit, no matter who wins, we lose. Props to Cole though for doing the sketch. Side note: Did anyone else notice that the player's tag in the video was "Blunt Trauma", with a little weed leaf next to it? Good to see IW officially endorsing the stoner user base that makes up the tolerable demographic of Xbox live.
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But will the AI stop throwing grenades like they're going out of style? I doubt it.
Also, random grenades aren't always random. A lot of spots that are areas of high congregation. If you've played any FPS there's going to be strategic points to lob grenades.
Seriously though, a lot of the 'random grenades' are actually strategically thrown. It just looks like they are random because seasoned players throw them without even having to think about it. They just target spots where there is high traffic and n00bs just happen to be there to complain about it when the 'nade kills them.
@casualweaponry
Only rookies get hit with martyrdom...which is why I'm hoping it gets nerfed the shit out of
http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-34640480252896_2073_17071686
If the game had throwing knives, I'd just use those. Much more fun than shooting people. Grenades and Proxy Mines are the next best thing, particularly in bottlenecked areas. Vehicles in inappropriate corridors can also be fun.
Really though, I have yet to play any FPS that didn't consist of whiny brats crying about "random grenades" or how using a sniper rifle is "cheating."
I see your point. I myself do not throw random grenades and to be honest I don't have a problem with those that do. I do however understand that it is apparently a big issue within the community.
because the games A.I. will be able to tell the difference between a random grenade and a strategic one
I mean I can tell when someone sees an enemy then throws a grenade
v.s.
when someone just thinks an enemy is there
right ...
That said, Cole Hamels is awesome. GO PHILLIES!
stop whining about it, you pussy bitches. stop trying to homogenise COD.
WE CAN'T STOP YOU THROWING RANDOM GRENADES BUT DON'T LIKE IT DON'T DO IT... PLEASE ;_;
I for one are in support of random grenades, although Martyrdom can go DIAF. Until they think of a way to prevent grenade kills from spamming, then I'll happily continue spamming grenades.
Random grenading for points goes away if grenades TK and players spawn in random locations at the start
Just sayin...
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