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Will environmental destruction make their game better? No.
I also hear giggling coming from Naughty Dog's offices.
I also hear giggling coming from Naughty Dog's offices.
Personally, I'm just about ready for the next gen of consoles. Show them to me at E3 next year, and sell them to me next Christmas. That sounds just about perfect.
I'd take some new consoles, as long as the new ones offer backwards and forwards compatibility.
I wanna be able to use the controllers i got, i want the dlc and downloadable games i have to work, things like that.
It would make transitioning to a new console such a smoother experience instead of starting from scratch all over again.
I wanna be able to use the controllers i got, i want the dlc and downloadable games i have to work, things like that.
It would make transitioning to a new console such a smoother experience instead of starting from scratch all over again.
I hope some developers will take this opportunity to stop pushing the glitter and focus on gameplay hooks
A console is dead when innovative games stop coming out, not when the hardware is maxed IMHO
A console is dead when innovative games stop coming out, not when the hardware is maxed IMHO
What about consoles reaching their limit?
Consoles died a generation or so ago (you know when the first Xbox launched). For you see what we have now are not consoles but stripped down PCs with all the flaws that PCs bring.
Consoles died a generation or so ago (you know when the first Xbox launched). For you see what we have now are not consoles but stripped down PCs with all the flaws that PCs bring.
If Codemasters are as bad of a developer as they are at publishing and running online games, their word pretty much doesn't even count.
@Tristrix: Or you can go the Nintendo route and show them to you next E3 and not release it till March :D.
Codemasters is pushing the boundaries? DICE, sure, but Codemasters? Maybe. I think we're at the point where basic coding will bring you up against the wall quickly, but really good coding can still get a lot more done in the same amount of memory/processes. This is where we see the really high level developers separate themselves from the second level, at least in terms of big budget releases.
Still, games don't need to have destructible environments to be good. Even if present consoles are at their limit, that limit still allows for some amazing content. Since I never buy a console until after the first redesign/price cut, it doesn't matter that much to me personally.
The first year of a new console is usually the worst for gaming, anyway. If Sony and Microsoft launch a new console at roughly the same time, then we're going to have a period where people are trying to get a handle on the new technology, and trying to incorporate all the new features and gimmicks, as well.
Still, games don't need to have destructible environments to be good. Even if present consoles are at their limit, that limit still allows for some amazing content. Since I never buy a console until after the first redesign/price cut, it doesn't matter that much to me personally.
The first year of a new console is usually the worst for gaming, anyway. If Sony and Microsoft launch a new console at roughly the same time, then we're going to have a period where people are trying to get a handle on the new technology, and trying to incorporate all the new features and gimmicks, as well.
@scuffles umm... im pretty sure they are consoles. Im not an expert though. (-.\) "ill take condescending for 500 Alex."
If anything.. I'd prefer to see a Playstation 3.5 or an Xbox 540. Essentially the same console but with more memory and CPU power, but with backwards compatible games. Meaning all of the games developed for future consoles would work on our current consoles. Basically a PC-like console thing.
@Scuffles: I agree with you 95%. But when you install a game on a console, it usually runs, which is no small thing.
Moar explosions, moar graphics, SAME gameplay. i think some developers are just focusing too much on how far they can go with specs instead of bringing a full experience of gaming.
Second day in a row featuring fat doggies. It is the current generation of floors that cannot support these canines. The consoles are doing fine.
@Cryotek
I think you're generalizing a bit. A lot of people really just don't care past a certain point. I have a BluRay player, but most everything I watch is low quality streams. For me, content is is 1-9, with video quality taking 10th place. I have a gaming PC, but for me, I decide which platform I buy a game for based on gameplay, with visuals being a complete after-thought.
A lot of people are aware that games could look somewhat better, but it's just not that big of a deal to them.
I think you're generalizing a bit. A lot of people really just don't care past a certain point. I have a BluRay player, but most everything I watch is low quality streams. For me, content is is 1-9, with video quality taking 10th place. I have a gaming PC, but for me, I decide which platform I buy a game for based on gameplay, with visuals being a complete after-thought.
A lot of people are aware that games could look somewhat better, but it's just not that big of a deal to them.
Either we console owners demand new hardware from Sony and Microsoft, or we all purchase high-end PCs.
Am I the only one who is willing to look past the various disadvantages of the Xbox 360 and the PS3 in favour of each console's numerous advantages? I love my Xbox 360 but whenever I say so I'm looked at as if I have leprosy or necrosis.
We're so damned spoiled.
Am I the only one who is willing to look past the various disadvantages of the Xbox 360 and the PS3 in favour of each console's numerous advantages? I love my Xbox 360 but whenever I say so I'm looked at as if I have leprosy or necrosis.
We're so damned spoiled.
The tech part of this gen may be reaching its full potential, but there's a long way to go as far as gameplay, variety, and innovation are concerned.
Different people have different definitions of 'inferior'. The average consumer doesn't care, or even know what an FSAA setting is. Ease of use is the most important factor, and that is PC gaming's biggest weak point. The ability to walk into a store, grab something off the shelf, and get an experience they are familiar with is worth more than the tweaking and modding options that they are likely to ignore anyway.
It's kind of like the difference between iOS an Android. They are both viable options, but provide different experiences. Android is great for custom ROMs and personalization. iOS is great for "just let me text".
It's kind of like the difference between iOS an Android. They are both viable options, but provide different experiences. Android is great for custom ROMs and personalization. iOS is great for "just let me text".
@Cryotek: Its not every day I find someone who agrees that playing on consoles is more expensive. Also don't forget about peripherals that shit will break the bank right there lol.
@Cryotek: Its not every day I find someone who agrees that playing on consoles is more expensive. Also don't forget about peripherals that shit will break the bank right there lol.
@Spaz
Amazon has great deals on physical games, and you can be smart about peripherals. Besides, there's no temptation to purchase expensive upgrades for a console.
Amazon has great deals on physical games, and you can be smart about peripherals. Besides, there's no temptation to purchase expensive upgrades for a console.
The 360 especially has been at its limit for a long time. Choosing to stick with DVD was a bad idea from the start. Most games are being undercut by the inadequate storage capacity in order to fit in the 360, which adversely affects the PS3 and PC releases as well.
Case in point, a good chunk of LA Noire was cut to fit on the 360. It's time to step it up across the board, as a PC owner it's especially annoying to see games still restricted to 2005 standards.
Case in point, a good chunk of LA Noire was cut to fit on the 360. It's time to step it up across the board, as a PC owner it's especially annoying to see games still restricted to 2005 standards.
no to new consoles now, they will cost too much and these idiot companies will rush them out underdeveloped, not to mention that the games and DLC will cost more too, maybe in three years i say
I can see it. The thing that bothers me is that we still aren't getting games that run natively at 720p. Look at Red Faction Armageddon and Trenched the both run sub 720p. It's 100% unacceptable.
Console gaming can be pretty cheap, unless you buy everything Day One. For example, I check Amazon every single day to see what the DoD is, if there are any games on lightening deals, and if there are any $20 bonus deals going. My magic number is usually $40, which most new releases hit within a month or two. I buy the game, beat it, and if I don't want to keep it, I trade it back to Amazon, usually for a credit of around $30. There have been a couple of instances where I paid $40 and traded back in for $40, KillZone 3 and Dead Space 2 most recently. LA Noire I paid $40 and traded back in for $30 because I kept the game for awhile. If the value of a game falls really fast, as with BulletStorm, where I paid $40 but the credit offer sank below $25, then I ship the game off with Goozex instead, which gives me a full 1000 points for it.
The main reason I play certain games on my PC is for titles where the community is really into modding, like the Fallout series, or if the gameplay clearly favors the mouse, as with Dragon Age games.
The main reason I play certain games on my PC is for titles where the community is really into modding, like the Fallout series, or if the gameplay clearly favors the mouse, as with Dragon Age games.
Consoles reached their peak a long time ago. They are frankly abysmal hardware at this stage in the game. The fact that nearly everything only pretends to be the resolution it is through upscaling to the point where BLOPS runs at lower than 1024x768 is just crazy.
It's not just resolution though. Battlefield 3 is a great example of where consoles are just too outdated for what developers want to do, what with a significantly lower player cap and much smaller maps.
Oh, and Codies are FAR from the first developer to mention how the current consoles just simply aren't powerful enough.
It's not just resolution though. Battlefield 3 is a great example of where consoles are just too outdated for what developers want to do, what with a significantly lower player cap and much smaller maps.
Oh, and Codies are FAR from the first developer to mention how the current consoles just simply aren't powerful enough.
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