The Wii's game catalouge is looking better and better...
A couple of more cool titles and I'll probably go back on my word and buy the Wii.

Bowser Jr. and the Koopalings together at last! I love it.

God, I can't wait for this game... Screw everything else right now. My childhood is screaming with joy.

Mario Galaxy, Smash Bros., and now this! Koopa's freaking kids!

Time to officially add a Wii to the long list of reasons I need a job sooner than later ;)

bah forget this, gimme more Mario & Luigi RPG, or some Zelda. >:)

I'm choking and happy! Is this what you call "fetish"?

@NoMoneyLeftBoy

Holy shit, who the fuck is that on your avatar? And by "who the fuck" I mean AWSUM.

There's no reason anyone could have to actually look foward to this game while LittleBigPlanet exists. All this really shows is that fanboyism is stronger than any real grasp of worth. If any of you have passed on the game with the most comprehensive level editor for a 2D game (if not any game) ever and are still looking foward to this, well, you're sending a clear message about which is more important, sequels or innovation.

@ GohanGVO

Spoiler that shit next time please. How the heck was I supposed to know that

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Peach has been kidnapped. Please rescue he.

What are you going to say next, that Bowser was the kidnapper?

Yeah, except the controls/charm/art design of NSMB Wii is VASTLY superior to LittleBigPlanet. Seriously, for a game built on platforming, LBP has some craptastic, floaty physics.

Yoshi can eat hammers now? Talk about overpowered..

@Indigo

You don't think this game deserves success? You're one of those people who'd much rather play Carnival Games, huh?

The Wii gets minigame compilations, and people complain. The Wii gets a good game, and people complain. God, quit being a fanboy.

If LBP, Mario Vs. DK DSi and Flipnote Studio have proven anything to me, its that games with user generated content only prove why gutting PC games of mod tools is a crime against humanity.

People just copy or create the easiest things they can think of in user-generated games. Just go look at some of the highest-rated user-generated content for those games are. Its actually quite depressing.

I feel like I abandoned the Wii a little too soon. Then again, this could just be another SMB3. Yes, behold, the one living Mario fan (or person for that matter) who doesn't think SMB3 is the greatest fucking thing ever.

@FistfulOAwesome

Since when did LittleBigPlanet fail? That's news to me.

"That's why we buy games. To play things made by professionals."

That sucks man. You completely missed the boat on User created modifications for a plethora of games on the PC? You actually are missing out.

And LOL at whipping out a Yahtzee video. Here's a quick fun fact for you..................... his opinion doesn't have to be your opinion! You're allowed to branch away from what he thinks about things (which he just says to get a laugh anyway). His stuff isn't reviews so much as entertainment. And yes, I do watch them.. but I'm not so naive as to actually put any merit to them.

@ToadofSky
Yes I do, my good man. It's practically one of the things I'm known for on this site.

@runtheplacered
Sony hyped the shit out of LBP. It was set up as the PS3's savior (i.e. something to steal those "Casuals" away from the Wii). It only sold about 2.5 million copies. That's a pretty big failure (considering what it was supposed to do).

VGChartz page of LBP: http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=12390®ion=All

As for the user modifications on PC games, you forget that the most popular of the user-modificated games (like Doom or Starcraft) did not rely on user-modification. They shipped with huge campaigns and tons of maps of professional content, and those was those games selling points. The user-modification is a bonus, but never replaces the professional content.

I didn't link to Yahtzee's video to share in his opinion. I happen to have the same opinion, and I felt he covered what I felt nicely. As for just getting a laugh, while Yahtzee exaggerates anger in his videos, he doesn't pick on something for the sake of picking on it. He seems to honestly dislike or like whatever he mentions in his videos, while being entertaining at the same time.

I hope this game isn't as slippery as NSMB was.

The whole game felt like running on ice. Terrible.

They brought the Koopa kids back? About time.

Ludwig > Iggy

@Magnalon
2.5 Million is a failure. Sony's got plenty of other games that make money. LBP's purpose was to make customers, and it absolutely failed in that regard. In no way did that game up the sales of the PS3 and thus increase it's amount of customers.

I didn't say that LBP was all user-content. I said it relied on it. The professional levels, while nice, don't have staying power like the levels in games like Mario or Sonic. Couple this with the game's weird control (floaty/loose), and you don't have much of a replayable campaign. But that was going to be okay because there would be tons of great levels to play on the games online mode, except there weren't. Media Molecule forgot Sturgeon's Law, which states that 90% of everything is crap. Looking for good levels in LBP's online mode makes you think that Sturgeon was being too merciful.

Which leads into your "Brand Recognition" point. Tell me, what brand recognition did Pac-Man have before it was released? Super Mario Brothers? Sonic? Wii Fit? Any successful first game ever didn't have a brand to build off of, yet they went on to millions of sales through the absolute best advertisers a business could hope for: A satisfied customer. Word-of-Mouth is more responsible for sales than anything else, and every great product has had fantastic word-of-mouth. From the sales, it seems few customers were singing LBP's praises from the rooftops, which means few other customers were rushing out to get it. It may be a good game, but it isn't a timeless game.

As for NSMBW, maybe LBP has more levels, but are they as fun as the ones in NSMBW look to be? Are they replayable for infinity (previous Mario games certainly are, and if NSMBW is great, than it should be too)? You mention amount of content, but not quality or demand, meaning do these levels hold up to classic Mario (which NSMBW is trying to beat) and do people even want to play in LBP's playstyle (the floatiness of the controls is one of the game's most common complaints)? NSMB's sales seem to put the odds (and the customers) in NSMBW's favor.

I don't hate LBP, but I don't sing its praises either. After beating the professional campaign, there is nothing left for me to do (since it isn't timeless like classic games are). Compare that to 2d Mario games, which are replayable to infinity (something I hope NSMBW will hold up (looks likely)). It's pretty obvious which series will continue getting my cash, and which one won't.

Who are these "most consumers" for you. Are they LBP's 2.5 million customers, or NSMB's 19.5 million customers? Also, online play is nice (and might be implemented into the next game) but it isn't necessary for what'll be the majority of NSMBW's customers (parents buying for the kids). As for the 4-player play, I assume what you've played of it is in crowded events (i.e. uncomfortable) over your home (comfortable). Perhaps your tune will change once you have the full game in your hands.

From what I've seen the stomp mechanics are integral to the multi-player. Competitively you could slam your opponent down to be damaged or get something before them while Cooperatively you can use it to gain height to reach pipes or items or bosses that would be tougher to get solo. Similarly, all the preview vids I've seen (there are a ton on the American NSMBW site) don't seen to suggest any problem with the camera. Of course, I haven't played the game and you have so you have more experience than me, but from what I've seen I don't think I'll have a problem with the game.