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So the visuals are the only thing that's good about this game? Good to know, I won't be getting it when I get my PS3. Meanwhile I'll enjoy the lovely visuals and stellar gameplay in Super Mario Galaxy 2.
Well, yeah. On the Wii, lul? Lul! On the 3DS it could be pretty awesome though. The graphics wouldn't deteriorate that much, I would think.
@rexwolf2 A more subtle, less provocative "You're obviously a Wiifag" is a compliment to you?
@Matt Welch I'd probably buy it even IF visuals was the only thing going for this game.
@rexwolf2 A more subtle, less provocative "You're obviously a Wiifag" is a compliment to you?
@Matt Welch I'd probably buy it even IF visuals was the only thing going for this game.
@bigmoose and Dusty
I know that it wouldn't be very great on the Wii, but I was simply irked by his sudden, rude dismissal and pretentious manner.
I know that it wouldn't be very great on the Wii, but I was simply irked by his sudden, rude dismissal and pretentious manner.
The product manager is not financially neutral enough to be a product manager.
If your reason for not doing something is graphical power, fine. If your reason for not doing something is because you want a screen resolution superior to 480p, then you clearly do not understand consumer behavior (and eyesight) from this console generation enough to be put in a position that determines which consoles will receive ports.
If your reason for not doing something is graphical power, fine. If your reason for not doing something is because you want a screen resolution superior to 480p, then you clearly do not understand consumer behavior (and eyesight) from this console generation enough to be put in a position that determines which consoles will receive ports.
What? She completely dismisses the pure awesome that the 3DS is?
The Wii I understand, but the fucking 3DS too?
The Wii I understand, but the fucking 3DS too?
i wish ubisoft all the luck in the world. i mean, how many games that are about sound and graphics do you remember being classics? that's right, none. don't worry you nintendo fans, ubisoft doesn't make good games, so you're not missing out on anything special. (i note red steel 2 as an exception to that statement)
I'm pretty sure it's that developer's policy to hire only smug anti-Nintendo douches, like James Mielke.
Oh well.
Oh well.
Lindsay really wasn't rude. He was frank, which I really appreciate. You usually just get the run around at these things, which I doesn't do anyone any good.
I hope I didn't make him sound like a jerk in the post, because he's actually quite nice and engaging.
I hope I didn't make him sound like a jerk in the post, because he's actually quite nice and engaging.
Wow. It is incredible the fickle things people will be dicks over.
"lol u liek nintendo so stfu hd4liefz"
That said I could never see this on the Wii. It's just absolutely stunning the way it is. I don't think he's being pretentious. I think he's telling the truth. This game relies heavily on visuals. It's part of what sells it. Love it or hate it it's a fact. It's very much a pretty, interactive, HD screensaver and I wouldn't have it any other way.
"lol u liek nintendo so stfu hd4liefz"
That said I could never see this on the Wii. It's just absolutely stunning the way it is. I don't think he's being pretentious. I think he's telling the truth. This game relies heavily on visuals. It's part of what sells it. Love it or hate it it's a fact. It's very much a pretty, interactive, HD screensaver and I wouldn't have it any other way.
Their game makes use of HD where they believe is how their game is best experienced. Sure it can work on non-HD devices, but its clear that Lindsay Gray does not believe the game would be suitable for the other platforms, which is perfectly fine.
Also keep in mind that theres a good chance that Lindsay's opinion probably doesn't represent the developer as a whole, maybe another member would love to do such a thing.
I can understand why he laughed, it doesn't seem like he did it to be a douche but rather its like asking Nintendo to port Wii Sports to the 3DS. Sure, it can work, but it would destroy the game's focus (In Wii Sport's case, motion control. In Children of Eden's case, a graphical "experience") and would undermine the game as a whole.
TL;DR Don't hate because a developer isn't interested in moving their game to other platforms, this has been going on for years. Yeah it sucks, but don't take it as an insult.
Also keep in mind that theres a good chance that Lindsay's opinion probably doesn't represent the developer as a whole, maybe another member would love to do such a thing.
I can understand why he laughed, it doesn't seem like he did it to be a douche but rather its like asking Nintendo to port Wii Sports to the 3DS. Sure, it can work, but it would destroy the game's focus (In Wii Sport's case, motion control. In Children of Eden's case, a graphical "experience") and would undermine the game as a whole.
TL;DR Don't hate because a developer isn't interested in moving their game to other platforms, this has been going on for years. Yeah it sucks, but don't take it as an insult.
I also agree with Holmes last line. The sheer amount of "LOOK AT THIS. THIS IS AMAZING, NO?" I would do in public on the 3DS would be all the advertising Ubisoft and Nintendo would need.
You know, after I'm done showing everyone my PURE FLYING POKEMON.
You know, after I'm done showing everyone my PURE FLYING POKEMON.
You know, I only have an HDTV because that's the standard and all that's sold now, at the end of the day, though, I still feel like this:
You might have been able to sell me this on a 3DS, though. Maybe. Its published by Ubi Soft, though, that makes me a little iffy outside of No More Heroes
You might have been able to sell me this on a 3DS, though. Maybe. Its published by Ubi Soft, though, that makes me a little iffy outside of No More Heroes
Seeing that this kind of genre works a LOT on wii (Beat + on rails) and we've seen Bit Trip Series, I believe that Child of Eden has the potential to be on the wii, Graphics?, see brawl, see galaxy 2, see MP3 Corruption and M:OM you can make it work easily with a Dual Layer Disc. Only on 480p.
Well, I will still playing thi- Oh wait, I'm not gonna buy a motion controller, and I'm gonna buy the 3DS... Fuck this game...
Well, I will still playing thi- Oh wait, I'm not gonna buy a motion controller, and I'm gonna buy the 3DS... Fuck this game...
The glasses-free 3D would be quite a kickass way to not have to waste several thousand dollars to get the full "experience" this game's going for.
@ rexwolf2- you're not a douche. That's a natural reaction after all the bashing the Wii has taken from gamers, developers, and publishers over the years.
Just clarifying, Mr. Gray wasn't bashing the Wi or the 3DS. He was just engaging in "real talk".
Just clarifying, Mr. Gray wasn't bashing the Wi or the 3DS. He was just engaging in "real talk".
This, as much as anything else, is making me consider motion controls. Really, though, I have no idea why anyone thinks this kind of game would be appealing on a handheld unit. Really, why? Also, it baffles me that someone would compare the visuals of this game with that of something like the Mario games on the Wii. Galaxy looks amazing because it uses bright colors and bold solids, which is fine, but that approach does NOT work with all games, or even most games, and most cases is no substitute for high resolution.
@ everyone- I really wish I could tell you more about the visuals and the controls of Child of Eden, but I totally can't.
Let's just say that the game we talked about at PAX Prime has something to do with why I thought Wii/3DS for this game.
Is that vague enough?
Let's just say that the game we talked about at PAX Prime has something to do with why I thought Wii/3DS for this game.
Is that vague enough?
Wow, an audio/visual experience? As opposed to movies and videogames, which are nothing like that? Amazing.
Well, it certainly looks beautiful, but I think it's already been established that the Wii can put out some breathtaking graphics. HD is overrated in this respect.
But whatever, Ubisoft. You do what you like.
Well, it certainly looks beautiful, but I think it's already been established that the Wii can put out some breathtaking graphics. HD is overrated in this respect.
But whatever, Ubisoft. You do what you like.
I can understand where he's coming from, if your game was built to utilize HD to its maximum potential, then I'm sure it'd be terrible to have to compromise with something that is technically inferior.
Still, he didn't have to laugh about it. It's pretentious douchebags like that that make me wonder what direction the industry is going in.
Still, he didn't have to laugh about it. It's pretentious douchebags like that that make me wonder what direction the industry is going in.
@ Gee-Man:
I can understand that as well.
But if you can't make a game while even knowing the limits of the hardware, and try to push it further, doesn't that seem a bit lazy? No wait, it is.
I see this game being in the bargain bin, just like Rez was...
And before some of you say, bet you never played Rez, I did, and loved it. And I still understand WHY it tanked.
I can understand that as well.
But if you can't make a game while even knowing the limits of the hardware, and try to push it further, doesn't that seem a bit lazy? No wait, it is.
I see this game being in the bargain bin, just like Rez was...
And before some of you say, bet you never played Rez, I did, and loved it. And I still understand WHY it tanked.
Wasn't Q? Entertainment support to be doing a rhythm game for the Wii? It was announced like two years ago and it was to be published by Atari. But then it just fell of the face of the earth and it hasn't been heard of since. Was it this game and they just moved it the 360/PS3? Wasn't their other games audio/visual experience? They we're on the PS3/PSP for god sakes, so I'm sure they could be on the 3DS as well.
The 3DS looks as close as you can get to HD, without it actually being HD and the 3D effects is something that you can't really get anywhere else on the go. So I think this guy should just get over himself. If this game sells like crap on the 360/PS3, then I bet this guy will be eating his words in a year, or two from now, when it gets ported to the 3DS!
The 3DS looks as close as you can get to HD, without it actually being HD and the 3D effects is something that you can't really get anywhere else on the go. So I think this guy should just get over himself. If this game sells like crap on the 360/PS3, then I bet this guy will be eating his words in a year, or two from now, when it gets ported to the 3DS!
Oops I meant PS2/PSP. You know the two non HD systems before the 360/PS3 and lets not forget about the DreamCast. So I guess ReZ was not a real audio/visual experience, before it was ported to the 360?
I suppose I can understand this, but then I look at games like Brawl and Galaxy/Galaxy 2, and I wonder why people think those graphics are inferior. Brawl has 360-level graphics. Just try hard and you can make it happen on the Wii -- It's been done before.
Video games just aren't good without HD. Before the 360, video games were merely tantamount to sticks and mud. Oh what a very slightly increased resolution has done to society.
Uh, this is pretty obvious being as though the Wii is a shit console for kids and old people, not people who play cult classics.
And any thoughts (from the readers, not the editors) on the 3DS are pretty much Moot as I bet most of you are just guessing what it's capable of.
I'm predicting the same as the DS, lower power and graphical ability than other handhelds, (obviously more than the DS) but a fancy gimmick (3D / Touchpad) and a fuck-tonne of casual games to get the massive sales to soccer moms and children, again.
And any thoughts (from the readers, not the editors) on the 3DS are pretty much Moot as I bet most of you are just guessing what it's capable of.
I'm predicting the same as the DS, lower power and graphical ability than other handhelds, (obviously more than the DS) but a fancy gimmick (3D / Touchpad) and a fuck-tonne of casual games to get the massive sales to soccer moms and children, again.
"Uh, this is pretty obvious being as though the Wii is a shit console for kids and old people, not people who play cult classics."
Really, so you don't think Muramasa: The Demon Blade will become a cult classic someday? If anything I think its the opposite of what you're saying. I think a lot games on the Wii will become cult classic as we get into the next generation. Little King's Story will be a cult classic. Zac & Wiki, and the NMH games are already cult classics and games like MadWorld, HOTD: OverKill, Dead Space: Extraction and Silent Hill: Shattered Memories will all become cult classics eventually.
See time changes peoples perception about things. In 5 to 10 years from now, most people won't be thinking of the Wii as a console for kids, and old people. They'll be thinking fondly of it as being their first console, just like we did as kids with the NES, or SNES depending on your age. Zelda SS, Metroid, SMG, SSB: Brawl, and Mario Kart will all become they're classics just like they we're for us back then!
Really, so you don't think Muramasa: The Demon Blade will become a cult classic someday? If anything I think its the opposite of what you're saying. I think a lot games on the Wii will become cult classic as we get into the next generation. Little King's Story will be a cult classic. Zac & Wiki, and the NMH games are already cult classics and games like MadWorld, HOTD: OverKill, Dead Space: Extraction and Silent Hill: Shattered Memories will all become cult classics eventually.
See time changes peoples perception about things. In 5 to 10 years from now, most people won't be thinking of the Wii as a console for kids, and old people. They'll be thinking fondly of it as being their first console, just like we did as kids with the NES, or SNES depending on your age. Zelda SS, Metroid, SMG, SSB: Brawl, and Mario Kart will all become they're classics just like they we're for us back then!
Personally, I think you wouldn't need HD to get the full experience of this game. There's what you call art direction you know - the same thing that makes Kirby's Epic Yarn or Epic Mickey (wtf, they're both EPIC!) or the new DK look absolutely good even if it's on the graphically-inferior-Wii.
Although, if they did decide to let go of the HD thing, they'd still have a hard time releasing it on 3DS if the game is huge (even with watered-down textures).
Although, if they did decide to let go of the HD thing, they'd still have a hard time releasing it on 3DS if the game is huge (even with watered-down textures).
He sounds like a fanboy. A bad fanboy as long as there is things to look at and the music is good enough it is fine.
what is the matter with you people. not a soul among you would have ever thought this game was ever going to come out on the Wii or 3DS, not a single one. this guy basically confirms it and you come out and bitch about it? who cares if he laughed. i would have too if someone asked me if they wanted to know if Eden might be coming to the 3DS.
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