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Yeah, I don't live in Chicago, so I can't say for sure there, but I know I've seen ads for Sex and the City in the public transportation here.
I'm pretty sure GTA IV doesn't even need to advertise in the first place. That game along with franchises like Madden, Halo, and Guitar Hero pretty much sells itself.
Chicago native here. Didn't see any around today, not that I would anyway after this. However, this might be a victim of circumstance although I somewhat doubt it. This weekend 38 people were shot and 8 people died in those shootings in Chicago. Not saying it justifies this move, but it doesn't surprise me that much. Would they have been removed had we not had a particularly violent weekend? Probably, but at this point we'll never know.
Yeah, what Corak said. There's been some really rough gang violence in the past week. It's not exactly shocking to think that some people might be sensitive about a game based largely on gang and urban violence.
Overreacting? Probably. Maybe we need to get these kids inside and get a controller in their hands instead of a gun.
Overreacting? Probably. Maybe we need to get these kids inside and get a controller in their hands instead of a gun.
For it to truly be censorship there must be some inalienable right to place an ad on a CTA bus or train.
Unfortunately, the first amendment only gives us lame rights (like freedom of speech, freedom of association, and freedom of religion, etc.) and misses out on the cool rights we'd rather have (right to have our videogame ads on buses, right to have AO games at Wal-Mart, etc.)
Why? Why do you mock us, founding fathers?
Unfortunately, the first amendment only gives us lame rights (like freedom of speech, freedom of association, and freedom of religion, etc.) and misses out on the cool rights we'd rather have (right to have our videogame ads on buses, right to have AO games at Wal-Mart, etc.)
Why? Why do you mock us, founding fathers?
At least this ad campaign didn't trigger a bomb scare. Remember that?
"Oh noes, that Lite Brite is a bomb!" Morons.
"Oh noes, that Lite Brite is a bomb!" Morons.
THANK GOD OUR CHILDREN ARE SAFE FROM ADVERTISEMENTS. LUCKILY THEY HAVE REAL GUNS WITH WHICH TO DEFEND THEMSELVES.
THANK GOD OUR CHILDREN ARE SAFE FROM ADVERTISEMENTS. LUCKILY THEY HAVE REAL GUNS WITH WHICH TO DEFEND THEMSELVES.
I mean fucking seriously, CONTROL THE FUCKING GUNS YOU FUCKING MORONS. video games are keeping kids inside away from real bullets.
RAAAAAAAAAAAGE
I mean fucking seriously, CONTROL THE FUCKING GUNS YOU FUCKING MORONS. video games are keeping kids inside away from real bullets.
RAAAAAAAAAAAGE
@boatorious: Although censorship gets thrown around incorrectly quite a bit, it's not totally far-fetched in this scenario. It tends to depend on whether or not the CTA was making subjective determinations about the content of the game (viewpoint discrimination).
I am sure that after I read the book Grand Theft Childhood, that I'll be writing to Fox News and telling them to read the book before talking about anything related to video game violence.
Why is nobody blaming the Chicago violence on 420? Is it finally getting acceptance? I personally hate the stuff.
Was it help from "Fox" as in "Fox News" or "Fox" and in Family Guy, The Simpsons, Arrested Development "Fox". If it's from who I'm already thinking it is (Fox News), then they're gayer than I had already thought they weree
@bahamutzero
"I mean fucking seriously, CONTROL THE FUCKING GUNS YOU FUCKING MORONS. video games are keeping kids inside away from real bullets."
This is true, if only people would realize that. However, tighter gun control laws will not curb gun violence. Criminals will always, always, always find a way to get guns no matter what restrictions are in place, the same is true of drugs. Washington DC has had a handgun ban for quite some time, and the gun violence there has not dropped, in fact I believe its one of the more violent cities in the country.
"I mean fucking seriously, CONTROL THE FUCKING GUNS YOU FUCKING MORONS. video games are keeping kids inside away from real bullets."
This is true, if only people would realize that. However, tighter gun control laws will not curb gun violence. Criminals will always, always, always find a way to get guns no matter what restrictions are in place, the same is true of drugs. Washington DC has had a handgun ban for quite some time, and the gun violence there has not dropped, in fact I believe its one of the more violent cities in the country.
@Corak
When you get outside the political triangle near downtown DC, it's the most dangerous city in the US. Moreso than New York or LA.
Kind of ironic, considering the entire American Government is more or less based out of there.
When you get outside the political triangle near downtown DC, it's the most dangerous city in the US. Moreso than New York or LA.
Kind of ironic, considering the entire American Government is more or less based out of there.
@maxvest
You're probably right, although I'd still say that the gov't should not be held to a higher standard than a private group in that regard (even though in fact that may not be the case).
But, addressing that case you linked -- it's easy to imagine "Go to our church" or "Change our laws" as a certain viewpoint and as protected speech. Harder to imagine "Buy our game" garnering all the same protections. ;)
You're probably right, although I'd still say that the gov't should not be held to a higher standard than a private group in that regard (even though in fact that may not be the case).
But, addressing that case you linked -- it's easy to imagine "Go to our church" or "Change our laws" as a certain viewpoint and as protected speech. Harder to imagine "Buy our game" garnering all the same protections. ;)
I am not surprised. Given the frequency of homicides recently (in addition to the 6 over the weekend, there have be 27 school children killed this school year), it's the natural instinct of the gov't to get rid of the most obvious potential signifiers of violence. While I don't think GTA causes violence anymore than violent music or tv, they all contribute to the general American culture of the 21st century, which is curiously both more sheltered and more exposed to violence.
You know what really causes violence? War. And yet you never cease to see Army ads.
It's a real shame, too. I remember the first time I saw a bus ad for Vice City (in Chicago, mind). I thought "wow, video games have really arrived." I wonder when they left?
You know what really causes violence? War. And yet you never cease to see Army ads.
It's a real shame, too. I remember the first time I saw a bus ad for Vice City (in Chicago, mind). I thought "wow, video games have really arrived." I wonder when they left?
i'm assuming they refunded the ad money, and as a result rockstar ended up getting several days of free advertisement.
Yeah, I'm a part of the league of Chicago DToiders and I haven't noticed any GTA4 ads. In fact, when Fox News was advertising their report, they showed videos of GTA: San Andreas on the buses, not GTA4.
However, in response to this article itself, I don't remember seeing any R rated movies on the trains/buses/platforms, unless if War is R. Internets sleuthing is beyond me right now.
However, in response to this article itself, I don't remember seeing any R rated movies on the trains/buses/platforms, unless if War is R. Internets sleuthing is beyond me right now.
another chicago resident here, and this move dissapoints, but doesn't shock me. the cta has been under a lot of criticism as of late (rightfully so, as i was one of the hundreds that had to crawl through a city service entrance last monday morning.) i don't recall ever seeing any r rated adverts on any bus/train/platform either. there is still a ton of advertising by way of gigantic buildboards and guerilla marketing going on in chicago for gta4.
Ron Huberman is a pussy.
Wait, I'm sorry.
I'm sure RockStar is heart broken over the CTA's pussy move.
How will they ever get the GTA name known? I'm sure am glad that FOX (Married... with Children, Method & Red, Stacked, Women in Prison, Killer Instinct, etc) has high morals and will break them to get the story out.
Wait, I'm sorry.
I'm sure RockStar is heart broken over the CTA's pussy move.
How will they ever get the GTA name known? I'm sure am glad that FOX (Married... with Children, Method & Red, Stacked, Women in Prison, Killer Instinct, etc) has high morals and will break them to get the story out.
We call this free publicity!!! Don't they know that all this press will just fan the flames and make the game sell even more copies? And they call us the "uninformed masses".
i live in chicago and LOL @ THIS BEING AFTER THE EVE OF A 32 PERSON KILLING SPREE IN CHICAGO THIS WEEKEND
I don't get what the big deal is. Sorry to bust your fat bubble (excuse the pun) but Faux News isn't the only people bashing video games. Oh, it's the entire media. Good way to boost up your hits.. ya know, posting the same recycled garbage daily about how wrong it is to be against video games. You see, Jim, in this great (and not-so-great) country we live in, we have freedom of speech. I know you Brits like it one way, but we have multiple views. The great thing about this country is I can have my opinion (unless it's religious) and they can have theirs. I don't care if an ad was pulled. Just don't ban the game, like most Europe countries tend to do.
CNN hates video games! Oh noes!
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/07/29/uk.manhunt/index.html
CNN hates video games! Oh noes!
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/07/29/uk.manhunt/index.html
More double standards at play. Not at all surprised, as if they'll ever let games just be like other media. Stupid fuckers.
Well with a "CTA" with 35 shootings this weekend. Probably in honor of 4:20.
I can see why the cities officials would pull the ads. Because they're afraid they would get wacked GTA style. By all the Crypts & Bloods.
@ DryvBy
Nice name! : P
BTW I still love me some CNN.
I can see why the cities officials would pull the ads. Because they're afraid they would get wacked GTA style. By all the Crypts & Bloods.
@ DryvBy
Nice name! : P
BTW I still love me some CNN.
@BS3 Owner:
Surprisingly, the shootings weren't 4/20 related. They took place between Friday night and Sunday morning. And we don't really have Crips and Bloods. It's mostly Kings and GDs. Bloods and Crips is more of a West Coast thing.
*spends too much time on Wikipedia*
Surprisingly, the shootings weren't 4/20 related. They took place between Friday night and Sunday morning. And we don't really have Crips and Bloods. It's mostly Kings and GDs. Bloods and Crips is more of a West Coast thing.
*spends too much time on Wikipedia*
@ video cognito
I'm from Janesville, WI originally. Latin Kings & Ganstah Disciples, ahh I remember the days of my tender high school years now.
I didn't go south with all that shit till arizona.
( MM13 & Blood & the Crypts )
I'm from Janesville, WI originally. Latin Kings & Ganstah Disciples, ahh I remember the days of my tender high school years now.
I didn't go south with all that shit till arizona.
( MM13 & Blood & the Crypts )
@dryvby "boosting hits", "fat bubble"? u_u That tone is old and dry, are u sure your even a gamer? I shouldn't even go there, but, you sorta sound more like a fox news fan or old digg brigader...I'd rather get my news stories via quality internet media, than all the sensation on tv news (see tv terms like 'teaser', 'bumper roll' and 'news crawler' just to name a few). And, I, for one am glad DTOID covers stories such as this as it does affect many gamers on a local level, (as u can see from the comments), fu to faux news and their panic mongering/fluff whipping! I'm done. /end rant.
Jim is gonna give himself a heart attack over all this censorship going on! The worst part? Here in New Zealand we get the crappy Australian edited version of GTAIV because those pussies don't have a rating system for 18 and it's logistically easier for them to shunt us with the shitty edited one too. At first I was pointing and laughing at the stupid Australians but when we got the same schtick, it was divine karma coming to bite us in the ass. Suck.
Jim you realize that now those naughty, violent, obviously offensive adverts have all been pulled down off public transportation, I can finally go back to not ever taking the bus anywhere, ever.
Let me see here, hmmmm yes I'll make a fat joke, make a first amendment reference out of left field, and surround these two golden points with a lot of poorly-chosen words. I believe you have been burned, sir.
DryvBy, you fucking twat. I was about to go to sleep until I stumbled across your little kernel of wisdom, and now I can't because letting such stupidity go unanswered is a crime almost as grotesque as the debridement of a burn victim. Almost. Let's begin.
I don't get what the big deal is. Sorry to bust your fat bubble (excuse the pun) but Faux News isn't the only people[sic] bashing video games. Oh, it's the entire media.
Wow, hell of a pun there. Somebody tell Ralph Malph not to quit his gig at Arnold's. This is actually the one section of your entire post that has some merit, in that Fox News AREN'T the only ONES discriminating against the video game community. And as such, Jim has reported on them as well, from Mtv to the BBC, and many points between.
Good way to boost up your hits.. ya know, posting the same recycled garbage daily about how wrong it is to be against video games.
The story was posted on a Fox local affiliate yesterday. Also, in order to recycle a story, shouldn't it require, oh, I don't know, a previous write up of AN IDENTICAL STORY? Use your search bar, or ask a fucking adult to help you.
You see, Jim, in this great (and not-so-great) country we live in, we have freedom of speech. I know you Brits like it one way, but we have multiple views. The great thing about this country is I can have my opinion (unless it's religious) and they can have theirs
Where to begin? You criticize someone for giving an opinion on a subject, by showing him the importance of not criticizing people for their opinions? Is that a double-negative thought? How do you exist on this plane?
Also, freedom of speech does not exclude one from criticism of it(I think I heard that on Fox News).
[i]I don't care if an ad was pulled. Just don't ban the game, like most Europe countries tend to do.
CNN hates video games! Oh noes![/i]
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/07/29/uk.manhunt/index.html
Uh oh, here comes the smoking gun! A four year old story about the original Manhunt on CNN.com! Stop the presses, this was breaking news!
Internet Mattlockery at its finest. Or is it douche-baggery? I report, you decide.
I don't get what the big deal is. Sorry to bust your fat bubble (excuse the pun) but Faux News isn't the only people[sic] bashing video games. Oh, it's the entire media.
Wow, hell of a pun there. Somebody tell Ralph Malph not to quit his gig at Arnold's. This is actually the one section of your entire post that has some merit, in that Fox News AREN'T the only ONES discriminating against the video game community. And as such, Jim has reported on them as well, from Mtv to the BBC, and many points between.
Good way to boost up your hits.. ya know, posting the same recycled garbage daily about how wrong it is to be against video games.
The story was posted on a Fox local affiliate yesterday. Also, in order to recycle a story, shouldn't it require, oh, I don't know, a previous write up of AN IDENTICAL STORY? Use your search bar, or ask a fucking adult to help you.
You see, Jim, in this great (and not-so-great) country we live in, we have freedom of speech. I know you Brits like it one way, but we have multiple views. The great thing about this country is I can have my opinion (unless it's religious) and they can have theirs
Where to begin? You criticize someone for giving an opinion on a subject, by showing him the importance of not criticizing people for their opinions? Is that a double-negative thought? How do you exist on this plane?
Also, freedom of speech does not exclude one from criticism of it(I think I heard that on Fox News).
[i]I don't care if an ad was pulled. Just don't ban the game, like most Europe countries tend to do.
CNN hates video games! Oh noes![/i]
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/07/29/uk.manhunt/index.html
Uh oh, here comes the smoking gun! A four year old story about the original Manhunt on CNN.com! Stop the presses, this was breaking news!
Internet Mattlockery at its finest. Or is it douche-baggery? I report, you decide.
@timtheterrible:
well said.
i was just about to flip a shit after seeing this on the "news," but this weekend was utterly insane. crazy ass shooting spree. worst part of it all? the people doing the shootings missed their intended targets. all the people that died or were shot were innocent bystanders.
and so, bullshit news goes and blames all this violence, not on gun control, not on parenting (which i'm sure is a huge issue in all of it too), but on completely non-violent ads for a video game. how true Fox, how true. Non-violent ads for video games must be a direct cause of violence for the violence this weekend because they're advertising a violent game. that makes perfect sense! Artards.
next time there's an election, there's no way I'm gonna vote for Mr. I-spend-money-to-submit-bills-that-are-unconstitutional-anyway Blaglablablah (fuck spelling his name right. he doesn't deserve it.)
well said.
i was just about to flip a shit after seeing this on the "news," but this weekend was utterly insane. crazy ass shooting spree. worst part of it all? the people doing the shootings missed their intended targets. all the people that died or were shot were innocent bystanders.
and so, bullshit news goes and blames all this violence, not on gun control, not on parenting (which i'm sure is a huge issue in all of it too), but on completely non-violent ads for a video game. how true Fox, how true. Non-violent ads for video games must be a direct cause of violence for the violence this weekend because they're advertising a violent game. that makes perfect sense! Artards.
next time there's an election, there's no way I'm gonna vote for Mr. I-spend-money-to-submit-bills-that-are-unconstitutional-anyway Blaglablablah (fuck spelling his name right. he doesn't deserve it.)
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