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Check out these new screens of FF XIII... on the PS2 photo

While Final Fantasy XIII is most assuredly a current generation game from all we've seen development on it started before the PS3 (or the 360) were around. In two new books that Square Enix has published they're showing off a lot of the early work on the game and that work was all done on the PS2 with assets from previous Final Fantasy games.

You can check out the screens and artwork below. I know the cartoonish look on some of the characters is simply because it was easier to do while they were designing the kinks of the gameplay, but it does look pretty sweet. I think Zelda proved that a major shift in art style for a game series welcomes nothing but anger and derision no matter how good the game is, but this different look does make you wonder how different FF could be. It's cool to get a peek at how long this game has actually been in development and what the early plans were.

Final Fantasy XIII’s Early Beginnings [Gamesugar]

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ikiryou's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2010 19:09
ikiryou
The art style reminds of Crimson Tears. Only CT had a bit more female skin showing. Just a bit more, though.
Cataract's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2010 19:10
Cataract
I would so buy a cel-shaded Final Fantasy game, and I don't even like RPG's that much.
rapper97's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2010 19:14
rapper97
I saw these screens yesterday, but looking at that lead picture again it gives off the impression of some sort of strange meld of FF and a Suda51 game.

I really wish we could get PSX, "Summer of Adventure" era Square back. They were much better when they were a developer that wasn't afraid to have fun and take risks; rather than a scaredy-cat anime soap-opera sweatshop.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2010 19:17
Xzyliac
That looks amazing. I never thought I'd he disppointed in the art direction XIII is going in but the fact that it was, even in tech demo form, cel-shaded and awesome looking makes me a little sad that it's no longer that way.
SleepyInsomniac's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2010 19:18
SleepyInsomniac
Looks like they were going to do Final Fantasy X-3; unless Yuna and Rikku appear in Final Fantasy XIII somewhere.
Shiro Shishi's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2010 19:20
Shiro Shishi
So I take Yuna and Rikku were only placeholders to test the battle system?

If not,give us X-3. Just to see the internet explode in rage >:)
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2010 19:26
The Silent Protagonist
@Sleepyinsomniac - there actually was a plan for an FFX-3, but they decided against it. Guess they thought FFX-2 wrapped it up well enought. It kinda did on a character level, I suppose.There was a lot of closure and people embraching the future in the story by its end.

Always wanted to see a prequel with Auron in his younger days, but he did get that awesome cameo in KH2. He was the only FF character that ever directly joined your party in that series.

Unless you want to count the Omnislash slight in Chain of Memories, then Cloud helps out.
kefkaesque's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2010 19:28
kefkaesque
I actually really like the style in the header pic and all that. Kinda hope they do a game like this in the future.
lewness's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2010 19:32
lewness
Reminds me of Rogue Galaxy. Sweet, I loved that game too.
KingSigy's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2010 19:32
KingSigy
Cel-Shading is awesome. I wish more games would make use of it. I'm getting tired of everything being so realistic.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2010 19:33
Xzyliac
@LoopholeJumper
It was the first foray into realistic graphics. Plus that very first trailer hinted at something with a sort of epic middle-earth feel. I think people just felt cheated at the time.
Butternine's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2010 19:34
Butternine
Gotta love cell-shading. 1/10 the polygons (I don't really know), and twice as good looking. It'll still hold up 5 years from now. All on a system almost 10 years old. :) Good job, Squeenix.
Camiwaits's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2010 19:37
Camiwaits
Looks cooler than the current gen version
Ball Buster's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2010 20:10
Ball Buster
@Camiwaits

Agreed. Those screens actually look pretty badass. Now what I'd really like to see would be the resources for when FF7 was still being made for the SNES.

I'm always up for something to spice things up. Some of my favorite entries in game series come from the odd ducks. Zelda II doesn't get the love it deserves. Metal Gear Acid 2 was a blast, what with its radioactive colors, Rambo-esque brawling and blatant fanservice. (The original Acid changed the gameplay, but as far as art direction and story go, it's traditional MGS fare. ) And Megaman X Command Mission was a solid RPG in its own right.
koehler83's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2010 20:37
koehler83
Looks like prototyping, similar to Dead Space on Xbox.
Strandli's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2010 21:47
Strandli
Maybe a Final Fantasy spin-of could have Cell-shaded graphics, but I expect the main series to always be around to push the tech and be ahead of the curve, and of course give some cool cutscenes which could make it's own feature film. I don't think cell graphics would do that for me, would just be.. wrong.

So far, the best cell shaded graphics I've seen on any platform is ironically on the cell-powered PS3. And I can't actually believe openly mentioning this in public internets, but Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm had some of the best graphics I've ever seen, the cell was amazing. You should totally YouTube that!

But Final Fantasy should stay as it is. And to you who all say that looks more awesome than current FF13 are all stupid, sort of. Not saying it wouldn't be better, but judging simply from cell vs 'realistic' look? come on.
Camiwaits's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2010 22:10
Camiwaits
The look of FF13 is boring. Too glossy, generic and not impressive in detail like some other available PS3 games.
tirkaro's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2010 23:31
tirkaro
Looks pretty cool. I'd like an FFXIII Wii game in this style.

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Monodi's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2010 23:31
Monodi
@LoopholeJumper

because for them GAIMZ NEED 2 L00K REALIZTIK N HD 2 B EPIC OMG
RIMoonlight's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2010 23:57
RIMoonlight
I sometimes suspect the people who complained the Wind Waker was too cartoony were the same people who complained Twilight Princess was too realistic.
HijackedFlavor's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2010 23:58
HijackedFlavor
That looks kind of awesome. Anyone who dislikes Wind Waker because of the graphics is a fucking idiot.
buri3's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2010 00:14
buri3
TBH, wind waker did have alot of other problems aside from graphics (which weren't a problem)

But final fantasy has a niche aesthetic amongst games, and it's somewhat unnecessary to change it. If you're going to change how the game plays radically and the graphics style completely, might as well call it something else.
Gilgamesh1317's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2010 05:07
Gilgamesh1317
Part of me wishes that Square Enix would just do a cartoony, Wind Waker-esque Final Fantasy once in a while. And I don't mean a spinoff (they've had plenty of light-hearted spinoffs at this point), I mean a proper FF.

If FF15 had HD graphics with a style similar to Wind Waker, I'd import it at the first chance I got, then buy about three copies of it when it arrives in the UK.
Anjo's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2010 05:10
Anjo
You know, that looks really cool.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2010 08:45
Xzyliac
@Strandli
How are we stupid? It's been 10+ years. A radical art shift could help refresh things a bit. No one here is saying FFXIII looks bad. Just more of the same. A franchise like FF can do and be whatever it wants. It'd be nice to see them take advantage of that and take some risk.

I'm not really offended or bothered but to call us "stupid"? C'mon.
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2010 09:33
The Silent Protagonist
I tire of realistic presentation all the time and I've been a fan of cel shading since Jet Grind Radio on Dreamcast. And when you look around, you can do a lot more with cel-shading than make things look cartoony, check Ico, Okami and Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne or Digital Devil Saga, for example.

You can add a nice does of surreal and dreamlike qualities from the style.

Valkria Cronicles makes it look like watercolor. And they are using the watercolor for Final Fantasy: The 4 Warriors of Light on the DS.

A lot of people don't understand that graphics can have a visual style beyond photorealism. The goal is photorealism only if you're an unimaginative tech-whores, not those with broader artistic tastes.

Every style out there has a function and purpose to it, nothing becomes obsolete just because technology improves. Why else would we still have RPGs running on random encounter and dice rolls or 2D platformers.

Its not just for nostalgia, its commonplace. Those things are stylistic elements and they have merit to them.
Strandli's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2010 11:19
Strandli
@Xzyliac:
Sorry, bad mood.
But a graphical style like cell shading does not change the gameplay. I can understand that it would feel refreshing with something new graphically, but by looking at some magazine scans by a PS2 powered FF13 with Cell-shading, saying "that game is better than current FF13", is just "stupid".
To look at it from another view: there isn't that many good games with the same presentation as FF either, so I have to rely on that fix once every 5 years. I like high-budget cutscenes, cheesy storyline, and 'realistic' graphics, and few does that as good as FF, so changing that up would most likely disturb my inner peace. Or something.
And also: internet is super serious.

This post made very little sense I think
Gee-Man's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2010 13:25
Gee-Man
Looks pretty cool I have to say. If FFXIII was released on the PS2 and never on the PS3, I'd say this would be an awesome direction to take it in. Never understood the Windwaker hate though. Sure, hate on the sailing and triforce fetch quest, but the graphics? Beautiful. Everything from the little smoke swirls to the surprisingly expressive characters made the game a treat to play. Windwaker has always been near #1 for my favorite Zelda of all time.

On topic, as much as I'd love to see something like this, Square has too much money resting on the FF franchise. As long as these trends continue to stay the same, Square will always go the safe route for the main FF's artstyle. They seem to reserve quirky or unique artstyles for games like TWEWY where they're intentionally doing something different.
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