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Amazing numbers! Now count half of that to people rebuying their xboxs more than twice. Amazing! Now microsoft has more moneys to make even more on rail games! Amazing! Mow microsoft can make more ips with all that precious moneyz.
@Jim Sterling
Didn't you say that if Kinect sold 5 million units by Christmas you'd do an episode of the Jimquisition in a dress?
also, boners
Didn't you say that if Kinect sold 5 million units by Christmas you'd do an episode of the Jimquisition in a dress?
also, boners
I may have to join that 8 million because the only 360 games coming out this year is crappy kinect shovelware. Either that or I'll buy a sega saturn or some game console I missed out on.
@llort het and as jayson would say get a god damn ps3 with all those god damn exclusives coming out in 2011. Wait wait, I think that actually makes some sense. ^^
I'm waiting for the same people who always shit in the Sony articles about shipped = sold to come in this article and celebrate like it's the second coming of Christ.
Yeah, I started it. :)
Yeah, I started it. :)
"Didn't you say that if Kinect sold 5 million units by Christmas you'd do an episode of the Jimquisition in a dress? "
I don't think I said that. I actually resigned to the fact that Kinect would succeed as soon as MS got Justin Bieber on board.
I don't think I said that. I actually resigned to the fact that Kinect would succeed as soon as MS got Justin Bieber on board.
Yeah all the casuals at my job fell for kinect so I'm not surprised, however for me and my brother this is rock bottom for the system in my house. It's time to renew his xbox live subscription , problem is he doesn't have a reason too nothing on the horizon he's even remotely interested in that isn't multiplat.
Looks like my home is about to become a two ps3 household . Hope that rumored pricecut happens soon.
Looks like my home is about to become a two ps3 household . Hope that rumored pricecut happens soon.
Well with that many kinect units sold at least there's a chance developers will actually make stuff for it past the six month mark.
This doess not surprise me...
Though every time i hear microsoft boast about how much xbox 360 has sold i cant help but feel a bit of disgust....Mostly cause i had to buy 2...after the first one broke about 4 times and they didnt wanna fix it for free anymore...
I know sold is sold...i get it but really theres not alot to be proud off...Especially when you are pretty much laughing in our faces how faulty hardware made you sell us your console multiple times.
I am not saying i havent enjoyed the console but i could do with a bit less rubbing it in our faces...
Though every time i hear microsoft boast about how much xbox 360 has sold i cant help but feel a bit of disgust....Mostly cause i had to buy 2...after the first one broke about 4 times and they didnt wanna fix it for free anymore...
I know sold is sold...i get it but really theres not alot to be proud off...Especially when you are pretty much laughing in our faces how faulty hardware made you sell us your console multiple times.
I am not saying i havent enjoyed the console but i could do with a bit less rubbing it in our faces...
8 Million... WTF. I should have known when I got 3 Kinect games for Christmas (none of which I actually asked for). You also have to admit a 16% adoption rate (higher if you believe the screams of fanboys saying the number is actually much lower due to RRODs) is very impressive. Now give me Steel Batallion and I will be a happy boy.
So everyone I know with a 360 had to buy at least 2 when one RRODed, they've sold 50 million so let's figure 25 million are actually still working, yet live has 30 million gold subscribers... That math just doesn't add up.
Hey nay-sayers: the Kinect is fun. That's all that matters.
It's incredible how oblivious and terrified some of you are about the casual market. It's kinda sad. You're probably the same dickholes that shit on the Wii every chance you get.
*shakes head in disapproval*
It's incredible how oblivious and terrified some of you are about the casual market. It's kinda sad. You're probably the same dickholes that shit on the Wii every chance you get.
*shakes head in disapproval*
What MS isn't telling us (probably because they can't accurately give them numbers and wouldn't even if they could) is that they're probably only netted about 35-40 million customers of which at least 10 million have had to buy another console due to warranty issues or being fed up with having to send it back in for fixing every six months.
As for Kinect, it's a good piece of tech that is sadly being used for the wrong purpose. For PCs it'll develop into a wonderful tool. For gaming, it's a long ways from being practical for much at all. A cool showcase of the technology that will help push forth the next generation of GUI software and interaction, but that's about it.
Kinect isn't going to achieve much more than SONY's Eyetoy did last generation. The only real difference is that MS knows how to sell hype to the average idiot American consumer who has more money (and time... can't forget time...) to waste on something as unworthy as Kinect. So of course it is selling well. But much like the Wii, I think most of them will be collecting dust in the not too distant future as people go back to their controllers that still provide a much better gaming experience.
I don't know what will happen with Move. Don't really care, to be honest. It has the most potential to succeed in gaming (combining the strengths of the Wii and MS's controller-less, or button-less [take your pick] add campaign). But it really comes down to the devs and this applies to Kinect, too, even though I'm skeptical of the gaming applications that will come from Kinect's narrowed focus of interactivity.
As for Kinect, it's a good piece of tech that is sadly being used for the wrong purpose. For PCs it'll develop into a wonderful tool. For gaming, it's a long ways from being practical for much at all. A cool showcase of the technology that will help push forth the next generation of GUI software and interaction, but that's about it.
Kinect isn't going to achieve much more than SONY's Eyetoy did last generation. The only real difference is that MS knows how to sell hype to the average idiot American consumer who has more money (and time... can't forget time...) to waste on something as unworthy as Kinect. So of course it is selling well. But much like the Wii, I think most of them will be collecting dust in the not too distant future as people go back to their controllers that still provide a much better gaming experience.
I don't know what will happen with Move. Don't really care, to be honest. It has the most potential to succeed in gaming (combining the strengths of the Wii and MS's controller-less, or button-less [take your pick] add campaign). But it really comes down to the devs and this applies to Kinect, too, even though I'm skeptical of the gaming applications that will come from Kinect's narrowed focus of interactivity.
Mamma mia! That's a lotta kinecta!
There is some unnecessary venom in this comment thread. Chill my babies.
There is some unnecessary venom in this comment thread. Chill my babies.
@ Drakengard: For my money, the move offers the most fun (& i believe versitile) experience.
But who know what will happen. Sony hopefully will give it great first party support and hopefully it sells enough to encourage third party publishers to give it some attention.
Sony should do all it can to get Move support in games that found benefit from it. For example Metal Gear Rising is a clear example of a game thT would potentially benifit from solidly integrated motion controls. At the same time I don't what it shoehorned into every game under the sun if it doesn't make sense and doesn't result in fun.
But who know what will happen. Sony hopefully will give it great first party support and hopefully it sells enough to encourage third party publishers to give it some attention.
Sony should do all it can to get Move support in games that found benefit from it. For example Metal Gear Rising is a clear example of a game thT would potentially benifit from solidly integrated motion controls. At the same time I don't what it shoehorned into every game under the sun if it doesn't make sense and doesn't result in fun.
It's incredibly sad and bad (incredibad) that people have nothing better to do than piss on this. Whatever way you look at it kinect is a success.
Perhaps the rage is because that 8 million figure is actually 8 million kinect units in peoples homes instead of however many move units have been sold (see: shipped) to shops.
@the Haters
What does it matter to you? Really? In the grand scheme of things it's just 8 million people that aren't you buying something they want. If you get mad over that than you need help.
Perhaps the rage is because that 8 million figure is actually 8 million kinect units in peoples homes instead of however many move units have been sold (see: shipped) to shops.
@the Haters
What does it matter to you? Really? In the grand scheme of things it's just 8 million people that aren't you buying something they want. If you get mad over that than you need help.
@Dakilazical
your typical retarded fanboy, huhhh, i thought the day of people(jealous fanboys) bashing on the red rings were gone, these people live in the past, and are the same ones who criticize the wii for not having good/great games
your typical retarded fanboy, huhhh, i thought the day of people(jealous fanboys) bashing on the red rings were gone, these people live in the past, and are the same ones who criticize the wii for not having good/great games
MS sure schooled Sony on how to market products. That's what you get when you use casual icons and the other is showing great games to the informed.
I own a kinect and its fun as hell. Dance Central is great. @ Drakengard your a jackass if you think 10 million ppl returned broken 360s. Also that was those ppls choice 2 buy a new 360. If the shit broke on you, you had the option to say screw M$. Instead ppl throw their money away and bitch and moan like they had 2 buy a new system.
@sofik88 you sounded a little bit like a fan boy on the move part buddy. anyways i got to admit kinect is pretty fun when you have friends around. the only games i played were kinect adventures and dance central. are there any games out or coming out that are good? i heard about steel batallion not sure how theyre going to pull it off but hope its good.
I'm a little worried about the Kinect. Every commercial about the Xbox 360 lately has been about the Kinect. Microsoft is pushing the Kinect really hard. Heck, we've heard more than one account of how developers are being hounded to put Kinect-support into their games.
I've got no problem with Microsoft trying to expand their audience, but it really seems like they are putting all their eggs in one basket. It's basically looking just like what everyone accused Nintendo of doing with the Wii - forgetting the established gamer to go after the blue ocean - except that Nintendo still had games like Zelda: Twilight Princess available at launch. Kinect doesn't have a similar game to complement it's launch, and we won't be seeing one from Microsoft until Forza 4 comes out sometime this year (hopefully).
I've got no problem with Microsoft trying to expand their audience, but it really seems like they are putting all their eggs in one basket. It's basically looking just like what everyone accused Nintendo of doing with the Wii - forgetting the established gamer to go after the blue ocean - except that Nintendo still had games like Zelda: Twilight Princess available at launch. Kinect doesn't have a similar game to complement it's launch, and we won't be seeing one from Microsoft until Forza 4 comes out sometime this year (hopefully).
I would put money down that 50 million 360's sold includes at least 10 million replacement consoles.
Also interesting to see PS3's global sales, because last year I'm sure i read they were at about 47 milion. And while some of those would be replacement consoles, it would be far far far fewer than the 360's.
I bet he mumbled the "US" in: "top selling US console" a bit.
Also interesting that of 50 million consoles, only 30 million have LIVE accounts. Maybe some of the missing 20 million are the replacement consoles eh?
Also interesting to see PS3's global sales, because last year I'm sure i read they were at about 47 milion. And while some of those would be replacement consoles, it would be far far far fewer than the 360's.
I bet he mumbled the "US" in: "top selling US console" a bit.
Also interesting that of 50 million consoles, only 30 million have LIVE accounts. Maybe some of the missing 20 million are the replacement consoles eh?
@SexualChocolate
45.6m
http://www.vgchartz.com/home.php
Don't forget though, that the PS3 has an 8% failure rate and Sony are very harsh on the warranty. If you're a day out, they want £200 so I'm sure quite a few of them are replacements too.
45.6m
http://www.vgchartz.com/home.php
Don't forget though, that the PS3 has an 8% failure rate and Sony are very harsh on the warranty. If you're a day out, they want £200 so I'm sure quite a few of them are replacements too.
I love my Kinect and i love my wii. To me, if they make me smile and give me a nice bit of satisfaction whilst playing, they have done their job. End of!
@Sofik.
A. Your 20% failure rate is actually more like 7-8%. (Remember 54% on the Xbox, never forget)
B. Are you saying 13-15 million PS3's are used only as blu-ray players? 13-15 MILLION people bought the most expensive games console available, just to play Blu-rays?!?!?
You sir, are on some kind of awesome killer super-crack.
@Hasney, thanks dude!
PS3 45.6m - 8% failure rate = around 42 million working consoles.
360 50m - 40% failure rate (being VERY generous for arguments sake) = around 30 million working consoles.
Hang on a moment, how many LIVE subscriptions were there again???
An extra year on the market (rush out borked console) - a fuckload of sales.
An almost criminal (in fact legally forced to offer 3 year warantee makes it pretty much criminal) failure rate - a fuckload of sales
Locking users into a subscription, and purchase of over priced (transferable) hardware - a fuck load of REPLACEMENT sales.
Appealing to the lowest common denominator (the Stupid American) - a fuck tonne of sales (In America) ooh Rah!
Making a truely next gen console, with the most varied and interesting library, advancing storage media type, advancing proccessor use, offering a free online system, with true global appeal, a real LUXURY, "next gen" product (read: not a PC with a beefy graphics card crammed into a box and locked down to XBL) and STILL only losing out less than 10% of sales to the competition?
PRICELESS.
Round eyed American's really struggle to comprehend that outside of your little island the rest of the world doesn't really rate the 360 quite like you do.
I've got one, it's not as good as my PS3.
A. Your 20% failure rate is actually more like 7-8%. (Remember 54% on the Xbox, never forget)
B. Are you saying 13-15 million PS3's are used only as blu-ray players? 13-15 MILLION people bought the most expensive games console available, just to play Blu-rays?!?!?
You sir, are on some kind of awesome killer super-crack.
@Hasney, thanks dude!
PS3 45.6m - 8% failure rate = around 42 million working consoles.
360 50m - 40% failure rate (being VERY generous for arguments sake) = around 30 million working consoles.
Hang on a moment, how many LIVE subscriptions were there again???
An extra year on the market (rush out borked console) - a fuckload of sales.
An almost criminal (in fact legally forced to offer 3 year warantee makes it pretty much criminal) failure rate - a fuckload of sales
Locking users into a subscription, and purchase of over priced (transferable) hardware - a fuck load of REPLACEMENT sales.
Appealing to the lowest common denominator (the Stupid American) - a fuck tonne of sales (In America) ooh Rah!
Making a truely next gen console, with the most varied and interesting library, advancing storage media type, advancing proccessor use, offering a free online system, with true global appeal, a real LUXURY, "next gen" product (read: not a PC with a beefy graphics card crammed into a box and locked down to XBL) and STILL only losing out less than 10% of sales to the competition?
PRICELESS.
Round eyed American's really struggle to comprehend that outside of your little island the rest of the world doesn't really rate the 360 quite like you do.
I've got one, it's not as good as my PS3.
It's amazing considering how much the actual manufacturing cost of a Kinect is and seeing how much they sold, thata's some bank alright, sir.
Also, the damn thing was released costing about 500U$ here in Brazil (actually, only a few thousand units were shipped on the whole country) near christmas and it was sold out in a few hours, so EVEN MORE bank.
Also, the damn thing was released costing about 500U$ here in Brazil (actually, only a few thousand units were shipped on the whole country) near christmas and it was sold out in a few hours, so EVEN MORE bank.
Kinect was a success. Move (like all past Sony Playstation peripherals) was a failure.
Moving on!
This just proves that the 360 still has a heartbeat. Despite Blu-Ray, despite 3D, despite the Cell, the PS3 still manages to stay behind Microsoft's console.
And last night's conferences were proof of just how different these two companies are.
Sony's conference was about them telling us what we want and what we need. Microsoft's, on the other hand, was about telling the user that it listens and it delivers based on our feedback.
I have no problem saying that MS is evolving and becoming an entirely different company, while Sony is slowly adopting the arrogance of the 1990's Microsoft.
Moving on!
This just proves that the 360 still has a heartbeat. Despite Blu-Ray, despite 3D, despite the Cell, the PS3 still manages to stay behind Microsoft's console.
And last night's conferences were proof of just how different these two companies are.
Sony's conference was about them telling us what we want and what we need. Microsoft's, on the other hand, was about telling the user that it listens and it delivers based on our feedback.
I have no problem saying that MS is evolving and becoming an entirely different company, while Sony is slowly adopting the arrogance of the 1990's Microsoft.
Even taking into account the failure rate if you look at xbox live subscribers then you've got 30 million. Kinect has sold 8 million. So just over 1/4 of those people bought kinect. That's impressive I think.
@sexual chocolate
We don't know if those 20 million are silver accounts, do we? There's a few guys where I work who have xboxes but don't have live accounts at all. Not everyone bought this generations consoles with the intent to play online.
@sexual chocolate
We don't know if those 20 million are silver accounts, do we? There's a few guys where I work who have xboxes but don't have live accounts at all. Not everyone bought this generations consoles with the intent to play online.
@sexual chocolate
Last time I saw a picture of you your eyes looked pretty round, just saying.
Also.
"Our rules for banning are pretty straightforward: spamming, trolling, racism...."
Sexual chocolate....
"Appealing to the lowest common denominator (the Stupid American)"
It's almost like you want to get banned.
Last time I saw a picture of you your eyes looked pretty round, just saying.
Also.
"Our rules for banning are pretty straightforward: spamming, trolling, racism...."
Sexual chocolate....
"Appealing to the lowest common denominator (the Stupid American)"
It's almost like you want to get banned.
The Kinect isn't garbage, considering how much news, and use it's had in terms of the technology: it will get there. It's a pretty simple situation right now: if you like popular games and/or have family members who aren't gaming saavy, buy it. If you don't like popular things, don't buy it.
The thing is evolving the way we're going to look at a lot of games, and gaming in general. When the Wii came out, I think there was one story about how people used two Wii-motes to simulate "flapping your wings" on a PC devkit, and a few other ones that basically talked about the old Bluetooth technology it uses. The Move - nothing happened...at all.
The thing is evolving the way we're going to look at a lot of games, and gaming in general. When the Wii came out, I think there was one story about how people used two Wii-motes to simulate "flapping your wings" on a PC devkit, and a few other ones that basically talked about the old Bluetooth technology it uses. The Move - nothing happened...at all.
No doubt 2010 was a killer year for the 360. There were a ton of great games and Kinect is revolutionizing entertainment. We'll see if they can keep it up in 2011. Right now for 2011 I'm favoring the PS3 lineup for the first time since launch.
You never know though, MS has been much more innovative in the gaming space than Sony.
You never know though, MS has been much more innovative in the gaming space than Sony.
@Bakewell, the roundeyes thing could be seen as a little comical racism, but my eyes are indeed round too, but "Stupid Americans" no way. There are stupid people all over the World! Those used panties machines in Japan appeal to "Deviant Japanese" doesn't mean all japanese people are deviants.
You're just dying to get me banned, eh?
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You're just dying to get me banned, eh?
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Oh and Sofik. Dude.
Really?
It was posted here, right here on Dtoid about the 360 having a 54% failure rate, the PS3 having (if I remember correctly) about 10% or 12% and the Wii had something like 6%.
You're really trying to tell me that the PS3 has a 100% failure rate.
You're really trying to tell me the WORST batch of 360's had a 16% failure rate.
Yeah Sofik. Yeah.
Oh and my launch model 60GB PS3 is still going strong, even if it does get a little noisy after a long session.
100% failure rate, you're fucking funny Sofik, real funny.
My brand new 1 month old 360 Slim sounds like a fucking jetplane.
If your friends have PS3's and don't know that it plays games, then dude, you need to get some new friends. Seriously?
Really?
It was posted here, right here on Dtoid about the 360 having a 54% failure rate, the PS3 having (if I remember correctly) about 10% or 12% and the Wii had something like 6%.
You're really trying to tell me that the PS3 has a 100% failure rate.
You're really trying to tell me the WORST batch of 360's had a 16% failure rate.
Yeah Sofik. Yeah.
Oh and my launch model 60GB PS3 is still going strong, even if it does get a little noisy after a long session.
100% failure rate, you're fucking funny Sofik, real funny.
My brand new 1 month old 360 Slim sounds like a fucking jetplane.
If your friends have PS3's and don't know that it plays games, then dude, you need to get some new friends. Seriously?
They are probably about even in console sales. Now lets all hug, make up, and go play some games regardless of system.
@sexual chocolate
It would be a shame if you got banned because 1% of the time you post you're a really cool, witty guy, the other 99% of the time you post it's flame baiting, idiotic bullshit
Whether I want you to be banned is not important, it's not like I'm tricking you into posting the same repetitive shit everyday, is it?
It would be a shame if you got banned because 1% of the time you post you're a really cool, witty guy, the other 99% of the time you post it's flame baiting, idiotic bullshit
Whether I want you to be banned is not important, it's not like I'm tricking you into posting the same repetitive shit everyday, is it?
There's no doubt I'm a 360 hater, but I am a fan of motion controls so I'm not surprised that Kinect would be popular. 8 million units is just impossible to believe.
Maybe Sony's product is just more popular in my neck of the woods, but stores where I live have had there shelves stuffed with Kinects since they rolled out. I just can't picture it happening unless there are places where people are just horny for everything 360. Not every 360 fan is like Sofikk, and I'd bet money even he doesn't have one.
I'm not saying Move should be selling better by the way. Sony's numbers are just more believable. I went to pick up a 2nd Move controller the other day, and I had to hit 2 stores. They were on sale at Wally mart. Every bundle was sold, and only the one local had controllers on their own. Easy to picture Sony's sales numbers.
I still swear MS is cooking the books.
Maybe Sony's product is just more popular in my neck of the woods, but stores where I live have had there shelves stuffed with Kinects since they rolled out. I just can't picture it happening unless there are places where people are just horny for everything 360. Not every 360 fan is like Sofikk, and I'd bet money even he doesn't have one.
I'm not saying Move should be selling better by the way. Sony's numbers are just more believable. I went to pick up a 2nd Move controller the other day, and I had to hit 2 stores. They were on sale at Wally mart. Every bundle was sold, and only the one local had controllers on their own. Easy to picture Sony's sales numbers.
I still swear MS is cooking the books.
Dude, this is my first "heated debate" of the year! I've not been posting this "same bullshit everyday," i've barely been here since Christmas eve as i've been off work!
Also, my posts were a response. I'm not here preaching about how every Xbox ever made will definitely break (like Sofik) I'm just weighing in on others comments and you know, discussing things.
Dude, i like you. i hate it when we fight. Let's kiss and make up?? x
@Nyktharas - Sounds like a good idea bro! As soon as I finish work I'ma get my game on. Although i'm currently playing Splinter Cell conviction's single player campaign. (on Xbox 360)
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Also, my posts were a response. I'm not here preaching about how every Xbox ever made will definitely break (like Sofik) I'm just weighing in on others comments and you know, discussing things.
Dude, i like you. i hate it when we fight. Let's kiss and make up?? x
@Nyktharas - Sounds like a good idea bro! As soon as I finish work I'ma get my game on. Although i'm currently playing Splinter Cell conviction's single player campaign. (on Xbox 360)
The internet: where differing opinions clash and discussions become arguments.
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