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looks really cool, I always get everything nintendo lol
Fighting games are still my primary shit though so hopefully this system will finally get some decent ones to at least warrant me dual modding my arcade stick to run on it.
Also are those analogs sliders like on the 3ds or are they actual sticks like ps3/360? If not I can see them having trouble snatching some of that more traditional market this device is supposed to appeal more to.
Fighting games are still my primary shit though so hopefully this system will finally get some decent ones to at least warrant me dual modding my arcade stick to run on it.
Also are those analogs sliders like on the 3ds or are they actual sticks like ps3/360? If not I can see them having trouble snatching some of that more traditional market this device is supposed to appeal more to.
Here's my view on the Wii-U:
Just give me first party games, Nintendo. I'll play the shit out of them and will buy every one like I do now.
Please let me use the regular Wii-Mote.
I hope I don't have to use that Fischer-Price Tablet.
Just give me first party games, Nintendo. I'll play the shit out of them and will buy every one like I do now.
Please let me use the regular Wii-Mote.
I hope I don't have to use that Fischer-Price Tablet.
"No longer. What Nintendo has designed here is a thing of beauty."
Once again I have to point this out, that everyone who actually plays the thing, has nothing but good things to say about it. Yet for months now, the people who haven't played it AKA “jump to conclusion fanboys” act like the Wii U controller is nothing but shit.
I think its just people wishing that its bad, so they won't want to get one, but everyone who has actually held the thing in their own hands, think that its fantastic. People need to just chill out about the Wii U, because last year was just a tease for the system. So until this years E3 is over, than we won't know the full picture of the system.
Once again I have to point this out, that everyone who actually plays the thing, has nothing but good things to say about it. Yet for months now, the people who haven't played it AKA “jump to conclusion fanboys” act like the Wii U controller is nothing but shit.
I think its just people wishing that its bad, so they won't want to get one, but everyone who has actually held the thing in their own hands, think that its fantastic. People need to just chill out about the Wii U, because last year was just a tease for the system. So until this years E3 is over, than we won't know the full picture of the system.
@ Magnalon: Fischer Price tablet? I dunno man. I read on Engadget that the screen was brighter and clearer than an iPad, something I find hard to believe. But until we know how good the screen is and what's inside this controller, we shouldn't pass judgement on it.
I'm thinking quality screen, but very little on the inside of the thing in terms of any sort of processing power.
@ Conrad: What did you think of the screen quality?
I'm thinking quality screen, but very little on the inside of the thing in terms of any sort of processing power.
@ Conrad: What did you think of the screen quality?
I don't doubt that it's comfortable, but is it practical? Can you imagine yourself playing ninja gaiden with the wiiu tablet and it's tiny buttons/ analogue nubs?and if you can, do you think it would control as well as a traditional controller? If yes, then I guess I'll try to reserve judgement until release. If no, then this is just another instance of nintendo trying to shove a gimmick down our throats even at the cost of hindering core games.
That's a relief somewhat. I still hope for a couple minor changes like analog stick buttons (or L3 and R3 if you prefer), not sure why Nintendo hasn't capitalized on that feature given how important it is in some games. Hoping E3 brings good news.
@Eternal
No multi-touch means it's already 3 years behind every tablet - even the Kindle Fire, which isn't really a tablet.
No multi-touch means it's already 3 years behind every tablet - even the Kindle Fire, which isn't really a tablet.
Makes me wonder how expensive the Wii-U is going to be. That controller alone looks like a $300+ device. Is Nintendo willing to put a $600 system out there in a bad economy?
In regard to the comfort of the controller, I think having your hands farther apart would be more comfortable, too. Regular controllers can create some tension in the shoulders with your hands so close together. Most people even hunch forward a little sometimes while playing. One thing I like about kb/mouse is that I can use a big desk and spread my arms comfortably out to the side to each device (I keep my keyboard a good bit to my left while gaming). I wonder if anyone would make a "wide" version of a 360/PS3 controller - no screen, but with a wider center area.
Also, how does this feel/compare to project Fiona?
In regard to the comfort of the controller, I think having your hands farther apart would be more comfortable, too. Regular controllers can create some tension in the shoulders with your hands so close together. Most people even hunch forward a little sometimes while playing. One thing I like about kb/mouse is that I can use a big desk and spread my arms comfortably out to the side to each device (I keep my keyboard a good bit to my left while gaming). I wonder if anyone would make a "wide" version of a 360/PS3 controller - no screen, but with a wider center area.
Also, how does this feel/compare to project Fiona?
"The position of the analog sticks"
to be fair they're circle pads. And as someone with a 3DS I can say that those pads take a little adjusting to get used to how they don't have a "throw", but have some resistance when moving them.
to be fair they're circle pads. And as someone with a 3DS I can say that those pads take a little adjusting to get used to how they don't have a "throw", but have some resistance when moving them.
Very happy to read this, as the controller was my primary concern regarding the console. (And, truth be told, I trust Conrad's opinion on matters like this more than most, so this is double plus good news.)
Yeah, great work Nintendo! Way to go, making that controller not too heavy and all. I bet that took years of research. When I saw how they gave you two flat surfaces for your hands, as a way of holding it, my jaw dropped to the floor. And the buttons are close to the edges, so you can push them with your thumbs! I bet it can even communicate with the WiiU and play games and stuff!
This is like the fifteenth article I've read that says that the Wii U controller feels fantastic to play with, and yet STILL there are hundreds of whiny scrubs bawling about the controller being too large... Do all these people have tiny little girl hands or something?
I trust Conrad and Holmes, but I feel like this is never going to leave the realm of "seeing is believing" for me. Or in this case, touching. It just doesn't look like a comfortable controller at all. It may be light, but it's still bigger than and as rectangular as the Game Gear.
@aeriusastrum
Yes, I've also read articles saying the controller was comfortable, but I've yet to hear someone address the question I made in my post. I'm just having a hard time believing that Ninja Gaiden, Street Fighter, etc will play as well with this tablet as they would with a traditional controller, even if it "melts into your hands" or whatever.
I'm also not a huge fan of having a battery draining screen on my controller even when I'm playing games that don't use the screen very much, but I guess that's a small gripe assuming it has a decent battery life.
Yes, I've also read articles saying the controller was comfortable, but I've yet to hear someone address the question I made in my post. I'm just having a hard time believing that Ninja Gaiden, Street Fighter, etc will play as well with this tablet as they would with a traditional controller, even if it "melts into your hands" or whatever.
I'm also not a huge fan of having a battery draining screen on my controller even when I'm playing games that don't use the screen very much, but I guess that's a small gripe assuming it has a decent battery life.
Good hardware, good first party games, lacking online, terrible third party support. These things are synonymous with Nintendo these days.
The last two descriptors are what make/breaks the Wii-U for me. I felt burned by the Wii and don't know if I can take it again :( .
The last two descriptors are what make/breaks the Wii-U for me. I felt burned by the Wii and don't know if I can take it again :( .
I always thought the controller looked big, clunky and unwieldy. Then I actually saw a picture of someone holding it.
With this and the previous article, Im glad were finally starting to shed some light on this thing. Cant wait for E3!
With this and the previous article, Im glad were finally starting to shed some light on this thing. Cant wait for E3!
Can you really be so sure after using the thing for a brief moment? I used to love the PS controller. Extended use however, gave my hands a much more painful memo than I expected.
"I'm just having a hard time believing that Ninja Gaiden, Street Fighter, etc will play as well with this tablet as they would with a traditional controller"
Street Fighter play just fine on the 3DS, so I can't see it being any different on this thing. In fact it would probably be better, because this has more traditional controls!
Street Fighter play just fine on the 3DS, so I can't see it being any different on this thing. In fact it would probably be better, because this has more traditional controls!
I call GameStop daily to see if they're taking reservations for the Wii U. I haven't been this excited for a console in a long time... Well, since the first Wii, really.
I'm getting it. Haven't missed a Nintendo system since the Virtual Boy, and I don't plan on starting any time soon. Just hoping we don't have to wait years and years for some more sweet Zelda action (we probably will).
@Magnalog - Why does it need to be multitouch. Multitouch is nice, but I think if you need to use the Wii U controller for a game, most of what ends up on the screen is stuff you'd just reach over to tap anyway.
Plus multitouch would add some serious cost to the device..
Plus multitouch would add some serious cost to the device..
@blindingofalex
Why should age matter? I'm older and very excited for the wii-U. Some my favorite gameplay experiences came on the wii this gen. Skyward sword, super Mario galaxy 2, new super Mario brothers wii.
Why should age matter? I'm older and very excited for the wii-U. Some my favorite gameplay experiences came on the wii this gen. Skyward sword, super Mario galaxy 2, new super Mario brothers wii.
I was very interested in the Wii U, but the lack of support for multiple display controllers really hurts it.
Sounds great, it does look abit uncomfortable, but nearly all of the hands-ons I've read are saying that the console is comfortable to hold.
As for the Multitouch debate, Single touch is actually better for gaming because it's more precise. "Resistive screens are more suited to drawing and writing as they work with styluses." At first I thought Nintendo was just being lazy and cheap when they didn't make the 3DS and Wii U multitouch, but after I looked into they made the right choice. Firstly multi-touch is mostly not needed when you have buttons, and after comparing a handful of tablets and smartphones with the 3DS touch screen I've found the mutlitouch to be more precise even when I'm using my finger on a singletouch screen.
In simple terms writing with a pen is more precise than dipping your finger in ink and writing with that. Multi-touch is better for tablets and smartphones because it makes them easier to navigate because they have no buttons. The Wii U is mainly just gaming and has buttons, so single-touch was the best decision for the consoles.
As for the Multitouch debate, Single touch is actually better for gaming because it's more precise. "Resistive screens are more suited to drawing and writing as they work with styluses." At first I thought Nintendo was just being lazy and cheap when they didn't make the 3DS and Wii U multitouch, but after I looked into they made the right choice. Firstly multi-touch is mostly not needed when you have buttons, and after comparing a handful of tablets and smartphones with the 3DS touch screen I've found the mutlitouch to be more precise even when I'm using my finger on a singletouch screen.
In simple terms writing with a pen is more precise than dipping your finger in ink and writing with that. Multi-touch is better for tablets and smartphones because it makes them easier to navigate because they have no buttons. The Wii U is mainly just gaming and has buttons, so single-touch was the best decision for the consoles.
I bought a Vietual Boy. I loved it. I am going to get this because I think it looks awesome. I'm not a Nintendo only guy, as I have owned every major console or handheld ever released. Regardless, I hope Nintendo does have a real app store or widgets for Hulu, Amazon, Netflix, etc. Could we be able to play DSiWare games on the tablet? Also no more shitty clock apps.
no shit? interesting, I want to hold one now. and I mean NOW! I had lots of reservations about how this could possibly feel comfortable at all but Nintendo has always been at the forefront of controller design and ergonomics even if hindsight makes some of those controllers look ridiculous (n64).
I will remain sceptical until I try one, but it is good to see that you enjoyed it, Conrad.
But I have to admit, I really like the idea of having two screens in a home console. The DS became my favorite console past generation because of that. We'll see how they decide to handle the touch one.
And I think this will be a lot better if it has a resistive touch screen and a stick, like the DS. I just don't like rubbing my fingers against a screen, thank you very much.
But I have to admit, I really like the idea of having two screens in a home console. The DS became my favorite console past generation because of that. We'll see how they decide to handle the touch one.
And I think this will be a lot better if it has a resistive touch screen and a stick, like the DS. I just don't like rubbing my fingers against a screen, thank you very much.
What I want to know is: If I twist my hands in opposite directions in anger will I rip it like a strong man with a telephone book?
I know people have already pointed this out, but the reason the tablet isn't multi-touch is for these reasons:
-Capacitive screens have a glassy exterior, which is more heavy and susceptible to cracking
-Multi-touch is less precise than resistive
-Multi-touch is more expensive
Now, if the tablet didn't already have so many buttons, then multi-touch would be a much better candidate for the screen. However, since it does have a full set of buttons, the benefits of precision and a lower price outweigh being able to press it in multiple areas. With resistive, Swapnote and Flipnote Hatena could make their way to the Wii U.
@Pringao
It is resistive, and it does have a stylus.
-Capacitive screens have a glassy exterior, which is more heavy and susceptible to cracking
-Multi-touch is less precise than resistive
-Multi-touch is more expensive
Now, if the tablet didn't already have so many buttons, then multi-touch would be a much better candidate for the screen. However, since it does have a full set of buttons, the benefits of precision and a lower price outweigh being able to press it in multiple areas. With resistive, Swapnote and Flipnote Hatena could make their way to the Wii U.
@Pringao
It is resistive, and it does have a stylus.
@llort
Ok, how about this?
Imagine a fighting game with no hud, just the fighters. The tablet displays the health and special bars, and maybe combo lists.
But when you hold the tablet up to the screen, the tablet shows what is on screen with the hud. This allows you to play with or without the hud, while others watching won't have to be bothered by it at all.
I have other ideas to.
Ok, how about this?
Imagine a fighting game with no hud, just the fighters. The tablet displays the health and special bars, and maybe combo lists.
But when you hold the tablet up to the screen, the tablet shows what is on screen with the hud. This allows you to play with or without the hud, while others watching won't have to be bothered by it at all.
I have other ideas to.
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