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I'm not religious, and don't necessarily believe in Jesus as told by the Bibles(New Testament/Old Testament/whatever), but that looks like a Jesus that I wouldn't mind Lan Partying with. =3
Oh yeah =D
Oh yeah =D
PRAISE THE LORD,BROTHERS, SISTERS, GAMERS ALIKE... CAN I GET AM AMEN?
I may be serbian orthodox I'm going to follow this and see where it could go, haha this should be good
I may be serbian orthodox I'm going to follow this and see where it could go, haha this should be good
I'm an Atheist and this almost pisses me off, but it's no where near as bad as what politics have done to religion. It looks like these are just some guys who run a crappy gaming website that think they're funny for making a picture of Jesus holding a controller. HAA JEHHSUS GAYMING THATS SO FUHNY BRAH!!
I am actually sort of offended by this, and I don't even know why.
I'm not religious as such, but I leave the option that God and Jesus exist fully open. I'm agnostic, which means I have absolutely no clue either way. He could exist, or he could not, but I can't know for sure.
...and yet...this somehow rubs me the wrong way
I'm not religious as such, but I leave the option that God and Jesus exist fully open. I'm agnostic, which means I have absolutely no clue either way. He could exist, or he could not, but I can't know for sure.
...and yet...this somehow rubs me the wrong way
Tyr is my clanmate. You ever been dominated by a burly dude with one hand? It's not pleasant. You want him on your team.
"Jesus plays video games" sounds way better than "Jesus hates fags". If you're going to take his name like that, at least use one that doesn't promote hate on the get-go.
Jesus came back to life in 3 days. My X-Box 360 died and it took 4 days to get a coffin. Then it took 2 more weeks for it to get replaced and returned. Yeah, Jesus wins.
Assuming the stories about Jesus are true (Yes, I know - for the record I'm agnostic leaning a bit towards atheist, but I was raised by decidedly non-lunatic Christian parents), he was a pretty fun-loving guy. Not serious and solemn at all for the most part. And as was already mentioned, he drank wine. He makes several jokes throughout the New Testament. He loved children. He was just an overall great guy. So yeah, I have no problem believing this. Videogames are a modern form of entertainment - he'd play them just as he enjoyed feasts and parties. He'd obviously drink beer just as he drank wine.
But as someone earlier said, yeah, I doubt he'd like the consumerism aspect of it.
But as someone earlier said, yeah, I doubt he'd like the consumerism aspect of it.
These were some quick thoughts on their site, which I posted elsewhere (lol, quick)
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Sites like this give me stomach cramps. I mean, it's really cool that these guys are making a concerted effort to go to a place which, let's be honest, not many Christians would thinking of going to minister - but their view of the gospel is /very/ weak. What's more, some of the stuff they say seriously undermines God's grace.
Take for example the PDF they have available for download, containing the book of John: Here they say, "You can't be clean enough, you can't be ready enough, and you can't give enough for it. He doesn't want you to go home, take a shower, clean your room, ***stop doing this or that, etc*** He Just wants you to take this free gift"
What does "Repent! for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!" (Matt 3:2) mean but to /stop what you are doing, admit your wrongness, and turn away (ie, live a holy life) from you old life? Never mind that the bible constantly say that God /requires/ holiness: "... what is it the Lord your God requires of you, but to fear the Lord your God, to walk in all His ways, to love Him, to serve Him ... and to keep the commandments and statutes of the Lord..." (Deut 10:12-13)
The fact is, yes, what God offers through the sacrifice of His son is completely free - there is no payment to be made on your behalf. But the reason God even did that in the first place was so people /could/ have the opportunity to turn away from their sin and be holy. Why? God says it best: "Be holy, For I am Holy" (1 Peter 1:16) He wants us to be more like Him. Think about that for a moment: He's not saying to become 'god', nor is He saying this for the sake of following some set of rules - He's saying he wants to share with us what it is means to be united with Him in nature. God is pure and blameless and he desires that for us also (Philippians 2:14). Someone who says, I accept God but He should accept me the way I am or let me keep living my life the way it is, really fails to see why Jesus even went to the cross in the first place.
Even their attempts to be 'hip' are no better. In the same PDF, there's a section titled, 'What the [expletive] is Game Church?' Maybe I'm just being prudish here, but I see no difference here than actually saying a curse word. I'm pretty sure most secular types get this as well. I mean, curse words are really only words after all. The difference is the intention behind the word, the connotations it carries, and the heart behind it. In this case it's swearing to be 'cool' and to 'fit in'.
Let it not be said though, that it's not all completely bad. There's some really good encouragement to not just accept what they say at face value, but to really seek it out to make sure what they're saying is true. For people who have grown up in Christian households, they also make it quite clear that they should really seek God's word to make sure what they're believing is not something they've just attached on because it's what they've grown up with. This is fantastic stuff and I only wish it filtered out more to the rest of the site.
There's much more that can be said about all this. It makes me sad because I definitely think there's huge potential here, and I feel that they've got a really base to start something really good. But unfortunately, in their attempts to fit in with gamers, they've seriously undermined the nature and character of God, and left a gaping hole as to why the gospel is needed so desperately. It's early days now, so I guess I'll be praying that they really seek out God's will on all of this.
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Sites like this give me stomach cramps. I mean, it's really cool that these guys are making a concerted effort to go to a place which, let's be honest, not many Christians would thinking of going to minister - but their view of the gospel is /very/ weak. What's more, some of the stuff they say seriously undermines God's grace.
Take for example the PDF they have available for download, containing the book of John: Here they say, "You can't be clean enough, you can't be ready enough, and you can't give enough for it. He doesn't want you to go home, take a shower, clean your room, ***stop doing this or that, etc*** He Just wants you to take this free gift"
What does "Repent! for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!" (Matt 3:2) mean but to /stop what you are doing, admit your wrongness, and turn away (ie, live a holy life) from you old life? Never mind that the bible constantly say that God /requires/ holiness: "... what is it the Lord your God requires of you, but to fear the Lord your God, to walk in all His ways, to love Him, to serve Him ... and to keep the commandments and statutes of the Lord..." (Deut 10:12-13)
The fact is, yes, what God offers through the sacrifice of His son is completely free - there is no payment to be made on your behalf. But the reason God even did that in the first place was so people /could/ have the opportunity to turn away from their sin and be holy. Why? God says it best: "Be holy, For I am Holy" (1 Peter 1:16) He wants us to be more like Him. Think about that for a moment: He's not saying to become 'god', nor is He saying this for the sake of following some set of rules - He's saying he wants to share with us what it is means to be united with Him in nature. God is pure and blameless and he desires that for us also (Philippians 2:14). Someone who says, I accept God but He should accept me the way I am or let me keep living my life the way it is, really fails to see why Jesus even went to the cross in the first place.
Even their attempts to be 'hip' are no better. In the same PDF, there's a section titled, 'What the [expletive] is Game Church?' Maybe I'm just being prudish here, but I see no difference here than actually saying a curse word. I'm pretty sure most secular types get this as well. I mean, curse words are really only words after all. The difference is the intention behind the word, the connotations it carries, and the heart behind it. In this case it's swearing to be 'cool' and to 'fit in'.
Let it not be said though, that it's not all completely bad. There's some really good encouragement to not just accept what they say at face value, but to really seek it out to make sure what they're saying is true. For people who have grown up in Christian households, they also make it quite clear that they should really seek God's word to make sure what they're believing is not something they've just attached on because it's what they've grown up with. This is fantastic stuff and I only wish it filtered out more to the rest of the site.
There's much more that can be said about all this. It makes me sad because I definitely think there's huge potential here, and I feel that they've got a really base to start something really good. But unfortunately, in their attempts to fit in with gamers, they've seriously undermined the nature and character of God, and left a gaping hole as to why the gospel is needed so desperately. It's early days now, so I guess I'll be praying that they really seek out God's will on all of this.
Though shalt not kill...oh hey here's a game with decapitations!
Even if it was casual party games, I don't think Jesus would waste time playing games that take away time from spreading His word to people. And even when he was a kid his fun was going to the synagogues and talking about God with the rabbis. Didn't really ever hear the Bible talk about Jesus playing tag and whatnot. Though I'm sure he did when he was really little but that's a lot better than playing Mario bros in solitude. sorry if my spelling was off.
Even if it was casual party games, I don't think Jesus would waste time playing games that take away time from spreading His word to people. And even when he was a kid his fun was going to the synagogues and talking about God with the rabbis. Didn't really ever hear the Bible talk about Jesus playing tag and whatnot. Though I'm sure he did when he was really little but that's a lot better than playing Mario bros in solitude. sorry if my spelling was off.
I'll admit I'm a pretty hardcore Christian and I don't care and am not offended. Yeah, it might be a stupid attempt to grab some gaming nerds with free beer and witty bumper stickers, but hey...if that's your thing, go for it. I kind of want a "Jesus Games" bumper sticker, to be honest.
And yes, my version of Jesus would totally come over and play Rock Band with me. He seems like a pretty personable dude.
And yes, my version of Jesus would totally come over and play Rock Band with me. He seems like a pretty personable dude.
The 'buddy Christ' was purposely a parody of these types of things. Obviously people didn't get the message.
Would Jesus play games with you? Well effectively he is since he gave you the friends to have fun with. He blessed you with those relationships.
These types of things ALWAYS just undermine the authority Jesus and God should have. Techniqually it is a sin to even put God or Jesus into an image, because God doesn't want to be known as an image (Catholics have it wrong). Of course then again, if you did assume that, then this is effectively isn't an image of Christ. So why bother making it anyway?
Do I find it offensive? No not really. Is it right? Well no. It is just stupid because it doesn't represent Christianity or Jesus at all. If you want proof that your gaming is fine, you don't need some horrible parody of what people thought Jesus might have done or looked liked... how about just read the Bible and obtain some wisdom? It comes down to knowing that everything God created is good, yet of course in a context (e.g. moderation).
Either way, since we are on the topic of Jesus gamer. People would bring their dead 360s to be revived.
This just seems like trying to justify gaming for Christians, or trying to justify Jesus for gamers... Neither is nor ever was a problem in the first place.
Would Jesus play games with you? Well effectively he is since he gave you the friends to have fun with. He blessed you with those relationships.
These types of things ALWAYS just undermine the authority Jesus and God should have. Techniqually it is a sin to even put God or Jesus into an image, because God doesn't want to be known as an image (Catholics have it wrong). Of course then again, if you did assume that, then this is effectively isn't an image of Christ. So why bother making it anyway?
Do I find it offensive? No not really. Is it right? Well no. It is just stupid because it doesn't represent Christianity or Jesus at all. If you want proof that your gaming is fine, you don't need some horrible parody of what people thought Jesus might have done or looked liked... how about just read the Bible and obtain some wisdom? It comes down to knowing that everything God created is good, yet of course in a context (e.g. moderation).
Either way, since we are on the topic of Jesus gamer. People would bring their dead 360s to be revived.
This just seems like trying to justify gaming for Christians, or trying to justify Jesus for gamers... Neither is nor ever was a problem in the first place.
I'm more bothered by Jesus continually being portrayed as a white guy than Him holding a controller.
I'm a Christian and I'm more than happy sharing a community with this lot of Athiests and Agnostics. But some people might not appreciate Raptor Jesus making an appearance every time Religion is mentioned. A couple of you dudes need to chill... the moderators won't kidnap you and force you to drink their Kool-Aid if you just accept the free beer and walk off
I'm a Christian and I'm more than happy sharing a community with this lot of Athiests and Agnostics. But some people might not appreciate Raptor Jesus making an appearance every time Religion is mentioned. A couple of you dudes need to chill... the moderators won't kidnap you and force you to drink their Kool-Aid if you just accept the free beer and walk off
Haha... wtg Gamechurch!
Jesus was out where the people were, constantly trying to reach out to the people, and with His heart for the kids, He probably would be gaming with them... just sitting around chillin with them and talking to them on their level. Not with a bunch of religious talk that so many preachers are known for (myself included sometimes).
Not sure why God would hate consumerism... they're not out there "selling Christ," they're simply presenting it... knowing that a whole lot of stagnant Christians would rather sit around and judge their efforts while they sit on their butts doing nothing for the kingdom of God!
Like I said, I applaud your work GameChurch! Keep on keeping it real!
Jesus was out where the people were, constantly trying to reach out to the people, and with His heart for the kids, He probably would be gaming with them... just sitting around chillin with them and talking to them on their level. Not with a bunch of religious talk that so many preachers are known for (myself included sometimes).
Not sure why God would hate consumerism... they're not out there "selling Christ," they're simply presenting it... knowing that a whole lot of stagnant Christians would rather sit around and judge their efforts while they sit on their butts doing nothing for the kingdom of God!
Like I said, I applaud your work GameChurch! Keep on keeping it real!
I used to play games. But I have too much else to do and think and feel. Games helped me learn many things and ways to apply to the real world. As for beer, I do not like it much, but used to like it. I drink some beer but prefer scotch and vodka etc. Beer can taste a little like urine at times.
Heinrich Hoffman is the only man who has seen. The painting is way off. Compare the two face to face. It is like two books that have the same title, but one is a fiction, and one is a non-fiction. It is like a face on a book, and a character within that book that nobody really knows.
Jesus would drink beer, he drank wine often during his life on earth.
Why wouldn't he game, if it meant building relationships with people and just enjoying life, he absolutely would. Also on the sabbath it would be a good way to rest and relax.
Why wouldn't he game, if it meant building relationships with people and just enjoying life, he absolutely would. Also on the sabbath it would be a good way to rest and relax.
Jesus is a fucking cheater and a noob, he always noobtoob on COD and cant die, he turns the bullets in more toobs, fucking cheater...
@Vallanthaz Agreed.
And despite identifying myself as agnostic, I think playing a game online with Jesus could prove to be rather interesting...
And despite identifying myself as agnostic, I think playing a game online with Jesus could prove to be rather interesting...
CURKAS-----. I appreciate your thoughts and your obvious zeal for our Father. My only thought is that you might want to contact gamechurch directly with your concerns. I think that you made some conclusions based only on their interpretation of John, but maybe you should talk with them about their theology or even their intentions. If you will be truly praying for them, give them a call or an e-mail and find out some specifics.
Shalom in your home :)
Shalom in your home :)
I know I am a little late to this party, but I just wanted to point out one thing that seems to overlooked in these kind of debates.
Paul, who is responsible for writing much of the new testament, stated that "I have become all things to all men so that by all means I might save some" (2 Cor 9:22:b). I am very for gamechurch.com and go to PAX and hope that they will be giving out beer or equally cool swag there.
one other thing, there is a somewhat similar group called xxxchurch.com and they go to porn conventions and hand out bibles that say "Jesus loves pornstars" on them, cause you know... he does. anyways, there are my thoughts.
Paul, who is responsible for writing much of the new testament, stated that "I have become all things to all men so that by all means I might save some" (2 Cor 9:22:b). I am very for gamechurch.com and go to PAX and hope that they will be giving out beer or equally cool swag there.
one other thing, there is a somewhat similar group called xxxchurch.com and they go to porn conventions and hand out bibles that say "Jesus loves pornstars" on them, cause you know... he does. anyways, there are my thoughts.
because ninjs...i said i dont like it much cos it tastes like urine...and bloats my stomach......
do IM TELLING YOU FROM THE WORD, that I dont drink much beer
and I DONT PLAY MUCH GAMES....cos I am not a child in my nappies
Got it??? fROM THE HORSES MouTH..........cHRISTOS
do IM TELLING YOU FROM THE WORD, that I dont drink much beer
and I DONT PLAY MUCH GAMES....cos I am not a child in my nappies
Got it??? fROM THE HORSES MouTH..........cHRISTOS
@ Daemon Garso - Gamechurch doesn't bother me but the xxxchurch does. After seeing its founders interviewed, I have to say they come across as the types who would start controversy just for the sake of media attention without having anything truly useful to contribute.
Also, the very concept seems like a cheap shot and only reinforces a negative stereotype of adult entertainers. They didn't feel the need to make a bible that says "God loves dentists", now did they? Of course not, but when it comes to those who enjoy their sexuality outside of monogamous relationships, suddenly we have the assumption that they're lost, confused, and in need of being saved.
I can respect the beliefs of others as long as they respect mine, but if we non-christians need to be saved from anything, it's the christians themselves. Not to put too fine a point on it, but we pagans were doing just fine before their religion became dominant. That's not a matter of faith as much as it is historical fact.
Also, the very concept seems like a cheap shot and only reinforces a negative stereotype of adult entertainers. They didn't feel the need to make a bible that says "God loves dentists", now did they? Of course not, but when it comes to those who enjoy their sexuality outside of monogamous relationships, suddenly we have the assumption that they're lost, confused, and in need of being saved.
I can respect the beliefs of others as long as they respect mine, but if we non-christians need to be saved from anything, it's the christians themselves. Not to put too fine a point on it, but we pagans were doing just fine before their religion became dominant. That's not a matter of faith as much as it is historical fact.
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