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CES 2010: I saw Super Street Fighter IV and it was good photo

Capcom's Seth Killian offered to let me play against him as a way to show off their latest, Super Street Fighter IV.

"Screw you," I said. "I'm not playing against you!"

I think he got where I was coming from. He watched me play Tatsunoko earlier. Yeah. So instead, he had me jump up and down and move around so he could kick my ass to show off some of the new moves and features of this follow-up to Street Fighter IV.

Killian told me that he was originally "a little concerned that it would be crappy," but it seems that Capcom pulled it out in the end, as SSFIV was looking pretty sharp. As good as it is, it's still Street Fighter IV. Killian told it straight, saying that if you didn't like SFIV, you're not going to like this one. Makes sense. That being said, I think I'm going to like this one better.

There's new characters, new supers, new stages, and a whole bunch of other crap that would have taken up too much of Seth's workday to go over. Instead, we went over several things, and I pulled together some highlights for you.

You should see this "Solar Eclipse" stage. It's freakin' weird. As you'd guess, day turns to dark quickly in the background, but this turns out to be the least notable aspect of the stage. Animals like giraffes, hippos, zebras and more seem to watch on as you fight. Round 2 comes along, and all of the sudden the hippos are up in your face, reacting to your battle. Even funnier is little meerkats that scamper around the grounds. They'll go as far as to mock you and your opponent, re-enacting your moves and deaths. Hilarious stuff, Capcom.

In this stage I got to see some of the new additions to the move lineup. Guy has crazy new grabs that look like they're going to piss me off later. He also has a taunt that you have to see to believe. He does this full-on, intricate ninja finger thingy. Capcom has put insane detail into this game.

Viper also has some new moves, including an insane ultra combo. She takes you to the air, then straight back to the ground, shocking you on the way down, exposing your skeleton through your body. On the ground, she rides you like a skateboard. What a bitch.

I told Killian that Capcom must have had Modern Warfare 2 on the brain when I saw the new Construction Zone stage. There's no snipers in this one, though. There is a huge Mayor Mike Haggar statue on top of a building off in the distance. There's also a ton of crazed construction workers that make better spectators than anything else.

It was on this stage that I saw Zangief's new Ultra, which I am told is pretty difficult to land. It's called the "Siberian Blizzard," and it's a sight to see. I won't ruin it, but when you do see it, look for the faces of the opponents in the headlock he puts on them. Great expressions.

I also saw Cody in action. He does his thing, throwing rocks and tornadoes all while dodging projectiles. He's a dick character for dick players. I think I'll use him often. Speaking of dick players, Cody can knife it up just like the old days. He'll pick up a knife on the ground that he can stab his opponents with. It does blocking damage on par with blocked fireball damage. In hand. Watch out for Cody.

I'm sure you've heard the other stuff already. There's going to be online lobbies, team play, cool new modes and more. You can beat up cars again. A new replay channel will let you record and share (show off) matches. Capcom even teased about an upcoming DLC announcement which they promised would be exciting.

Super Street Fighter IV is looking good, folks. No worries here. See you online this spring.








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Dale North is Destructoid's Editor-In-Chief, a founding editor, and specialist in Japanese gaming. An accomplished musician, Dale was reporting from Japan during the earthquakes of 2011. Luckily, he got the fuck out alive and is home in America now with his wife and beloved corgi, Einstein. Dale is also a co-founder of Destructoid's sister anime site Japanator. Likes Corgis, Sega Saturn, PSP, iPhone, Photographic tools. Meet the rest of the team



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Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2010 11:04
Chris Carter
PR guy that's paid to hype games says "if you do not like the first game you will not like this one so do not buy it", and subsequently loses thousands of sales.

Still pondering that one.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2010 11:06
Xzyliac
So who is Seth Killian? I'm assuming a PR guy?Just asking because based on his "crappy" comment he's clearly not a dev.

Anyways I'm pretty excited to play this game. I was before plating SFIV but after playing it (and reaffirming how much I suck) I'm ready to give SSFIV a go.
Shin Oni's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2010 11:09
Shin Oni
Killian told it straight, saying that if you didn't like SFIV, you're not going to like this one.

I don't think anyone's surprised here. I'm only playing SSF4 because it'll help out the fighting game world, and new characters.

plus when stupid shit like DP>FADC>Ultra is still bound, I don't see why people would consider liking SSF4.
LsTr Of SmG's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2010 11:10
LsTr Of SmG
@ Xzyliac,

He's the Community Manager at Capcom.
Shin Oni's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2010 11:11
Shin Oni
@Xsyliac

Seth Killian is a ex tourney SFII player who works for capcom and basically our "inside man" when it comes to the capcom fighters.
ChickenNow's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2010 11:13
ChickenNow
"Cyberian Blizzard"

Dale, I understand you're new to all this, but no offense, these previews should go to people who know shit about the game.

You also described Viper's Ultra backwards... ._.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2010 11:14
Xzyliac
M'kay. Thanks gang.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2010 11:17
Chris Carter
@Chicken Now
See, I thought that! It's obviously Syberian Blizzard, right?

Well what about the new Mecha-Zangief skin! He's a CYBORG. Get it?!
ChickenNow's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2010 11:18
ChickenNow
@Magnalon: Well, at least you didn't call him "Colossus Zangief" like the millions of people who didn't catch the Mazinger-Z reference.
Phoenix Gamma's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2010 11:20
Phoenix Gamma
"Screw you. I'm not playing against you!"

I bet he was sulking later :(
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2010 11:22
Chris Carter
@Chicken
I've been playing Mech-Zangief in Marvel Vs. Capcom while some people here were in diapers!

Maybe Dale was just being clever :p
ChickenNow's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2010 11:24
ChickenNow
@Magnalon: I don't think so. He described Viper's Ultra backwards and "doesn't want to spoil us" the "Cyberian Blizzard" yet you could see it in the OFFICIAL trailer Capcom released more than a week ago.
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2010 11:27
Holyetheline
I'm gonna ask for this for my birthday! Looks incredible.
Kaoslyon's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2010 11:27
Kaoslyon
For whatever reason, despite my love of fighters, I skipped SFIV.

Now I'm glad I did. Can't wait for this one.
Trevor McGee's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2010 11:28
Trevor McGee
@ Xzyliac

He's also the dude the shitty SF4 boss was named after, Seth.
Dale North's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2010 11:39
Dale North
ChickenNow: I'm new to what? Assume and you make an ass...
Jesus H Christ's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2010 11:43
Jesus H Christ
Seth keeps it real.
ChickenNow's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2010 11:44
ChickenNow
@Dale: I was talking about this game specifically, sorry I wasn't clear on that part.

I'm not assuming anything, the article itself shows that you're not too well informed about the game. The Ultras you try to describe or "not spoil" were revealed officially quite a while ago.

I did appreciate your description of Guy and his new stuff though.
shinryu's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2010 11:50
shinryu
I told Killian that Capcom must have had Modern Warfare 2 on the brain when I saw the new Construction Zone stage

Uh, MW2 must have had Final Fight in mind.
DrRockso's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2010 12:05
DrRockso
Didn't happen to see any new, previously unannounced characters, didja?

*still waiting for a Dudley announcement*
ChickenNow's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2010 12:08
ChickenNow
@DrRockso: Non of the new characters were in the CES build
DrRockso's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2010 12:13
DrRockso
@ChickenNow Daw, shoulda guessed. :<
hermes's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2010 12:17
hermes
DLC announcement? Already? They haven't even announced the all the characters...
free touch's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2010 12:17
free touch
I hate to say it Dale, but you did kind of botch this article. The Seth Killian stuff is sweet, but a lot of what you talked about was shown like... a week ago.
LK4O4's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2010 12:20
LK4O4
"I think he got where I was coming from. He watched me play Tatsunoko earlier. Yeah."

What? Tatsunoko? You played Tatsunoko? Where's Dtoid's CES coverage of Tatsunoko vs Capcom? It's only out in like two weeks, omg my head is going to explode! *laughs*
Xonticus's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2010 12:40
Xonticus
@ Pretty much everyone,

Stop with the raging already. If you have a problem with who wrote the article or have any doubts, pm them or write a letter to dtoid, don't start flappin your lips and making yourself look like a fool.

Also, he is talking about what went on there, not about what was somewhat revealed a week ago. Like a week is FOREVER ago anyways.

@ Shael

Failed Army of Darkness reference is fail.
Dale North's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2010 12:43
Dale North
Shael, it was a joke! I mentioned haggar in the stage!

As for the rest of you, if "botching" coverage is reporting on something you've seen but someone else hasn't, then we'll have to shut down the Internet for you
ChickenNow's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2010 12:46
ChickenNow
@Dale North: Except the trailers with the Ultras, costumes, stages you described were on this same website.
KingSigy's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2010 13:09
KingSigy
There isn't really anything in here that the video didn't show better. You should have taken Seth on to give us a real hands on preview. It's always neat to read stuff on SF, though, so I will compliment you for that.
SELJ's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2010 13:39
SELJ
Cool Hugo in the back round.
AstralDrmz's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2010 13:53
AstralDrmz
@all the not drama

Still a day 1. ;)
chumpslayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2010 14:19
chumpslayer
Street fighter! All of you are free. Can't wait to play all the noobs who didn't buy street fighter four and expect to jump right into super LOL !
puppy's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2010 14:25
puppy
Do we have a price point on this?
Gen Eric Gui's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2010 15:10
Gen Eric Gui
@zig83: The game's $40. We've known that for a while.
TheToiletDuck's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2010 15:33
TheToiletDuck
Worst series of comments I've seen on destructoid for a while. Get an educate you guys.

Where's rab when you need him?
Everyday Legend's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2010 15:58
Everyday Legend
Yeah, been missing RAB for a while, now.

Day. Fucking. One.
Street Fighter is worth a purchase of such gate-busting speed, no matter what version we're discussing. Guy will bring the new jack swing, and Honda's new Ultra looks straight beastly.
Technophile's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2010 16:23
Technophile
I'm still confused that people don't like the fact Seth gave an honest opinion of the game? Would you people rather he just lie to you and say it's the greatest thing every like the marketing team would?
Rammstein's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2010 16:25
Rammstein
I'm not going to be as douchey as the other peeps commenting but it did come off as a newcommer to the series/genre writing the article. The part about MW2(IMO the stage is more of a reminder of Zangief's SF2 stage more than anything) and the description of C. Viper's Ultra. And the 'spoiler' bit was really strange, this would be an 'OLD NEWS!!1' troll, except that Destructoid itself posted the video(s) showing all the new Ultra's, leaving nothing to be spoiled.

I don't blame you specifically(unlike previous commentors) though, because I have never seen a Blog/Gaming site/Community ever, ever post a story about a fighting game where they either;

A) Challenged the Presenter or
B) Seemed to be intimately familiar with either the game or genre.
C) The poster/writer wasn't self-depricating about their skill level.

Do you think its because 'fighters' are seen (and often described) as 'brawlers' and therefore are regarded as mindless button smashers the likes of which will never win an award because they aren't industry-changing, thinking-man's Art(insert gratuitous Ico, Bioshock, and other Citizen-Kane-of-videogame candidates here)? I can't recall the last time a fighting game was nominated for GoTY, much less actually won that award(Fighting GoTY doesn't count).

I don't mean to rant, this outrage over you getting a few details wrong(videogames are serious business, dontchaknow) has got me pondering the bigger questions about the industry.

As for me, I dug the new(to me) info, the Solar Eclipse stage sounds fun.
brownjohn's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2010 16:35
brownjohn
With all the hate in the comments, I would have thought it was written by Jim.
Everyday Legend's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2010 16:36
Everyday Legend
Capcom has had a wonderful penchant for honesty these days. It's refreshing as hell, and only deepens my undying love and committment for them.
Shin Oni's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2010 17:31
Shin Oni
I give credit for the fact Dale even gave a writeup on this...old or not.

Considering Dale is a RPG/music guy in the first place, I'm not hating on the fact he stepped out his usual boundary of SMT/Atlus goodies/Game music forte to actually write this bit.
johnnykamikaze's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2010 18:34
johnnykamikaze
What does "dick character for dick players" mean? That you find the character a dick? Or his play style? If the latter, what constitutes a "dick" character's play style?
Dale North's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2010 19:04
Dale North
Jesus. The MW2 thing. If you seriously thought I thought the stage was inspired by MW2 then you probably shouldn't be reading things on the Internet. Ever.
TheToiletDuck's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 04:45
TheToiletDuck
@Rammstein, have you read any fighting game coverage by Topher? It meets all of your criteria.
El TonBM's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 05:35
El TonBM
Hey? No hints or tips for a PC release?
Except for that, all good news. But I really hope some more female characters(Karin R.Mika and maybe a remix for Juni/Juli or some new girls for SF) And a pack with some SF3 characters eheh.
But, every character gained at least one new move or not?
DevilJin01's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 08:49
DevilJin01
Dick character basically means the character is a prick or jackass. SSFIV takes place after the Final Fight series and Cody gets bored with how peaceful life has become after his hand to hand crime fighting days are over. So he basically gets into fights with people on purpose to relive the old days and winds up in jail as a perpetrator of domestic violence.

After one of his ultras he even says "jeez man...you suck" just like every asshole that sends u a message the one time they beat u in championship mode online. He says to Guy in his intro " I guess I'm fighting alone now" to suggest that Guy has become weak and hasn't got into any fights since the FF days.
johnnykamikaze's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 08:51
johnnykamikaze
Ah, so dick character personality-wise, not play style. Thanks for the clarification!
ScottyG's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 11:07
ScottyG
One feature that I thought about last night when talking to deBLOO was the ability to watch uploaded replays online, as opposed to having to load it up through the game. It'd be cool if SSFIV has something like that.
Ehkard's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/16/2010 12:20
Ehkard
meh
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