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2:00 PM on 01.12.2009
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or maybe this is a shooter(here's a gun go shoot people)
Very impressive videos, so much so that I feel compelled to go pre-order it now.
If I remember correctly Halo 3 and Resistance 2 trailers hinted at this deep story and yet after playing all I got out of it was "aliens are here kill em' all"
Call of Duty 4 actually made me WANT to keep playing rather than just being a short distraction from multiplayer shootan.
I have to agree. Both 360 fans and PS3 fans fall for this type of thing every time. That was a good CGI movie with explosions and lots of well rendered faces, but not actual game footage. We would all do better by ourselves and our interest in games if we collectively let developers know that unless you show us the "GAME" (not it's cutscenes or slick hollywood style movies) the hype-train will stay in the station. If I were a Sony fan, I would ask why no awesome gameplay footage....especially given that the game is due to come out shortly. So far, these movies look great!
I suppose I should at least play the first one, though, for the story.
You make excellent points and that is almost always true. Except for one thing, Sony/Guerrilla HAVE SHOWN actual game-play in many videos concerning this. In fact, I've seen more in-game videos than "trailers" of this particular game, 16 to be exact. A little search on Google should lead you to them, and I think you might agree that the in-game graphics and elements are en par with the CGI movies. To be honest, Killzone 2 seems to be setting itself at a slightly higher bar than the average FPS, imo. This game looks awesome, and probably will play just as well, and I'm totally looking forward to it.
Anyways, I just wish this was on PC.
Yes it's a shooter, but they clearly are going for an epic feel to the game.
Here's what it says on Wikipedia:
"Except for a small number of half-breed Helghast and trained troopers, they require a gas mask and air processing tank that creates air similar to that found on the planet Helghan"
The developers obviously put some thought into the backstory, why would they blatantly contradict what they've already established?
And if the masks they wear mimic the environment on Helghan, shouldn't they not be wearing these masks at all?
If you're going to create a world that is supposed to be immersive, shouldn't you at least make it consistent?
Sigh..:/
I guess if this game was made by Infinity Wards,you guys would call it super awesome with a face of an angel.
Thanks for uploading the trailers anyways.
@sickNasty: the comma in the descriptive sentence after troopers is there to let you know that they aren't talking about half-breeds. All Helghast, except for a few half breeds, require the gas masks.
As for them wearing the masks on Helghan? Dunno. I guess we can just assume that the masks are apart of their war-helmets and that they all just wear them as standard issue.
Only logical reason.
I'd guess most of their equipment is designed for other environments. They've invaded other planets at least twice, presumably during the First Helgahn War and on Vekta Colony, and with the authoritarian government invading is far more likely than fighting at home. It's probably just become standard issue, and being protected from gas and the psychological impact doesn't hurt either.
Mostly I think it's so they look like super techo space nazis, but who knows what the masks can do. They probably have night vision and shit on them.
Many games do this, an common example is the opening movie of COD4, where is shows the action elements of the game whilst enchancing the graphics a lot, though not fully pre rendering everything.
The second video is most definely all in game, compare it to the first video, and there is a real decrease in graphical quality, less motion blur, less dynamic lighting, textural quailty decreases, and most of all, the characters models are not as detailed or as realisitic.
In fact, the biggest indicator to the second vid being fully in game, is the slow mo bit. It seems that it is a showcase for the game, showing off just how awesome the deaths are and how incredible the game looks, not to mention a breif physics demo in the form of exploding objects.
That said, I will preodrder this game tomorrow, every video I see, the game looks more and more impressive.
That's EXACTLY the reason the developers keep the masks on them. To make them look cool and to give the game a recognizable look.
It's just annoying to me when a developer tries so hard make their game cool and dark while being completely illogical.
"A barren, unforgiving world, Helghan provides a ready defense with thick, acidic air, dust clouds, and violent surgical lightning storms"
So the humans are invading a planet like that, but are not wearing ANY kind of breathing masks....
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!
So you don't want the enemies or the game to look "co0l"
What kind of fukin gamer are you?
I guess you don't like those "cool" guys in starcraft or Halo?
I can't speak about Starcraft, but in Halo the things that looked cool and even stuff that was impractical at least MADE SENSE in the universe that was established.
It's just funny to me that everyone loses their load over this game, but fail to recognize this blatant stuff that doesn't make sense.
That's not what he said, get off of Killzone's dick and learn to read.
So what doesn't make sense in Killzone2? :/..Double standards-I really hate it.
Lol.. I was going to say that it's just funny to me that everyone hates on this game,but fails to recognize that the dev made a great job and it's nothing like it's predecessor
If you want your answers go look it up,or play the first killzone.
@SickNasty
Do you really think that much with every video game you play? How can you get to sleep at night!?
Maybe the humans are super humans seeing how it's a video game and all. Well That, and you are using Wikipedia as a reference.....
I get what you are getting at but it's just a video game :)
Read ALL of my comments. I did look up stuff and I said so in my earlier posts. I clearly outline the stuff that doesn't make sense.
I'm not 'hating' on the game and I don't doubt the effort put in the game.
It's just silly that everyone overlooks broken logic just because it is a AAA title, but if a movie were to be this illogical it would not be so praised.
So what doesn't make sense in Killzone2? :/..Double standards-I really hate it.
Lol.. I was going to say that it's just funny to me that everyone hates on this game,but fails to recognize that the dev made a great job and it's nothing like it's predecessor
If you want your answers go look it up,or play the first killzone.
To me it's not overthinking at all. These Hellghast and the planet of Hellghan are such a massive part of the game. It's right in your face.
I don't accept that "it's just a video game" line. Seeing these overly dramatic trailers and the epic storyline being set up, do you really think the developers are thinking 'oh this is just a video game'
It would be a different matter entirely if the game was intentionally over-the-top and light-hearted. I want people to expect MORE from games, not just blindly accept logical flaws.
As I said go play the first game,it explains a lot.Even tho it sucks,but the story is good enough to keep you going.
I did not say that you were hating,a lot do and I was one of them tho.
I don't understand people judging gameplay from the videos but If you want to "see" game play, check GT's preview:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/44237.html
I gathered that much from the thread, but I have only seen that one gameplay reel (the one they got blasted by gamers because it did not live up to expectations), the same reel that they kept tweaking until they got it right. I am not a Sony fan so pardon me if I don't track down the videos, but I will take you on your word that there have been many new gamplay vids and that they demonstrate varied environments/segments of the game. My only stake in this is that we hold the power. Not the developers or the media.
haha, good point.
That animated gif above is real gameplay footage. Seeing as I have no clue if it will actually show after I post this comment, you can check it and others out at the NeoGaf thread, which I'm too lazy to bbcode. Here is the link:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=342018
Just scroll down a bit and witness the beauty of it all.
I'm now happy I bought that PS3, underused as it is.
I've seen enough. I know enough. I've PLAYED enough. Killzone 2 is going to stay in my PS3 for months and months.
If you want to see some IN-GAME development footage you might want to check out [url=www.gamekings.tv]Gamekings.tv[/url]. Look at video's and look for the 2nd one. It's in Dutch but you'll see some incredible behind the scenes footage. No spoilers. Only a short look a certain levels.
Killzone 2 is my game of 2009.
I wouldn't be suprised if the gameplay for MP was a complete miss... Except for the "pickup and play" masses.
that's enough for me
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